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Carifairy
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Many women do not wish to carry to term, YET they do wish for an intact baby to hold.
If you truly would like to know how an abortion is done, why not check out abortion clinic websites?
They have detailed info on how the abortion is performed, VERT DETAILED info, as a matter of fact.
This is a good website. Many PL 'ers state that abortion clinics do not explain things thoroughly..
drhern.com
You have to do all the rest yourself, as we are not supposed to link.
They detail abortion procedures that are used, and he is a well known late abortion provider.
Thanks to medical technology, women are able to find out in many cases how 'slow' their child may be.
There can be countless abnormalities in Hydrocephalus.
I believe it a womans choice to decide what to do when faced with fetal anomaly.
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scaredteen92
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| Posted: 07/08/07 - 19:48 Post subject: |
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| ok not meaning to be rude but most teenagers will and carry out the active of sex in there teen years it doesn't mean they were raped or it was incest.. but there are alot of teen mothers out there that wasn't raped and didn't want the baby but didn't abort... it is a proven facted that abortion can leaned problems in later on pregnancys so how would that make you feel you get pregnant and believe abortion is a birth control and pretty much kill your chances of having others ... i am not for abortion it is just a murder of an life... and i believe in birthcontrol and want not... because that stops the chancings of oval. so that means the baby wouldn't even be able to form let alone be killed it just kills the sperm.... abortion is a murder to an innocent life it didn't choice who the mother or father is so why make it suffer... if you were raped you have that baby as proof you can keep it till birth and get that man locked away and give it to someone who can't have children... |
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Carifairy
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| Posted: 07/08/07 - 21:39 Post subject: |
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My mom had 2 abortions, and had 3 healthy children.
Abortion does not affect fertility, it is the severe infection that *can* happen that causes problems. Severe infections from abortion is EXTREMELY rare, thanks to ANTIBIOTICS.
Read info from the CDC. |
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fcutie
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| Posted: 07/30/07 - 03:54 Post subject: |
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| you should be a little more open minded about this...you don't know some of the reasons why women have abortions. I had one when i was 16 years old. I wanted the baby to but I had no choice. My parents were forcing me to have one, I ran away just so they wouldn't make me but even my boyfriend at the time didn't want to help me. So there I was 16 and pregnant, no where to go and have this baby. I had no money, I was in highschool and I didn't have a job. I had to go back home,but in order to stay i had to do as my parents wanted. At the time I didn't know about all the help that I could have recieved.It's something I live with everyday of my life and i'm truly sad over it there isn't a day I don't think about it. I can say that if God ever blesses me with the second chance to be a mother I will have the baby no matter what anyone else wants. It's ok to share your opinion with others but wishing death to others is just as wrong as you think women are for having abortions. |
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luva79
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| Posted: 08/18/07 - 21:02 Post subject: Abortion is: |
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| Abortion is the placing of blame on & execution of an innocent human-being because of a man and womans own irresponsible actions or the actions of an evil person. Abortion is a selfish choice that puts to death a viable human being in exchange for a life time of what if's. Abortion is murder because killing a human is murder and humanity begins with conception and ends with old age. How can scientists claim to know how the universe began when they are so wrong about when life begins. It is so very obvious. Humans MUST be protected until their organs are able to function on their own - we ALL went though the "mommy's tummy" phase - it was designed that way or we wouldnt exist - but there are special people (the elite) who want to define worth based on birth. But those who know better and think higher know that each life is precious and has immeasurable worth in the eyes of it's Creator. Conception is a miracle. One day they will see the light. |
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Hizgrace4all
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| Posted: 08/19/07 - 19:43 Post subject: |
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| scaredteen92 wrote: | | ok not meaning to be rude but most teenagers will and carry out the active of sex in there teen years it doesn't mean they were raped or it was incest.. but there are alot of teen mothers out there that wasn't raped and didn't want the baby but didn't abort... it is a proven facted that abortion can leaned problems in later on pregnancys so how would that make you feel you get pregnant and believe abortion is a birth control and pretty much kill your chances of having others ... i am not for abortion it is just a murder of an life... and i believe in birthcontrol and want not... because that stops the chancings of oval. so that means the baby wouldn't even be able to form let alone be killed it just kills the sperm.... abortion is a murder to an innocent life it didn't choice who the mother or father is so why make it suffer... if you were raped you have that baby as proof you can keep it till birth and get that man locked away and give it to someone who can't have children... |
Hi scaredteen92,
Just some information that I thought you would find interesting.
Abortions in the United States for rape, incest, to protect the life of the mother, or to void a defective fetus comprise less than five percent of all abortions. The rest are performed just for convenience. And we're talking about one million abortions a year
An important scientific gathering was convened in October 1967 in Washington D.C. to decide this question. Medical professionals, biological scientists and authorities in the fields of law, ethics and the social sciences gathered together to settle the matter. This was the First International Conference on Abortion. The first major question considered was this: "When does human life begin?" And this is an important question, for we all know that we should not kill human beings. But when does an unborn child become a human being? At conception when the two cells unite, at birth forty weeks later, or at some point between the two?
Here was the decision of this group (composed of biochemists, professors of obstetrics and gynecology, geneticists, etc.):
"The majority of our group could find no point in time between the union of sperm and egg, or at least the blastocyst stage [shortly after fertilization, when twinning might occur] and the birth of the infant at which point we could say that this was not a human life. The changes occurring between implantation, a six-weeks embryo, a six months fetus, a one week-old child, or a mature adult are merely stages of development and maturation."—First International Conference on Abortion, Washington B.C., October 1967
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Hizgrace4all
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| Posted: 08/21/07 - 14:50 Post subject: |
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| Carifairy wrote: | Many women do not wish to carry to term, YET they do wish for an intact baby to hold.
If you truly would like to know how an abortion is done, why not check out abortion clinic websites?
They have detailed info on how the abortion is performed, VERT DETAILED info, as a matter of fact.
This is a good website. Many PL 'ers state that abortion clinics do not explain things thoroughly..
drhern.com
You have to do all the rest yourself, as we are not supposed to link.
They detail abortion procedures that are used, and he is a well known late abortion provider.
Thanks to medical technology, women are able to find out in many cases how 'slow' their child may be.
There can be countless abnormalities in Hydrocephalus.
I believe it a womans choice to decide what to do when faced with fetal anomaly. |
You know, I have to say, I went to the dr. hern website, and though it does contain some facts, I have to say that it is GARBAGE. It uses alot of medical terms, that sound real "pretty" to those who would not know otherwise. I had a friend who was told "tooth and nail" that her BABY had the signs and blood tests of downs syndrome. She didnt care, she gave birth, and guess what......??? The baby had NO downs or otherwise. I dont understand the "spin" some of these doctors do.
Also, I was reading some posts to a young girl who had become pregnant at 14. Yes, this is an early age. No disagreement there. MOST of the posts that I read just post after post "shot" negatives and what ifs and "oh, how are you going to be able to do.....such and such and such".
The point is, she should make her own choice. If she is going to be having sex, and taking on that HUGE responsibility, she should be able to understand the possibilities that go with it hand in hand.
In my humble opinion, I believe that by posing these "what if" questions to her, and the absolute negativity to her, that one is basically telling her that she doesnt "have a brain" to think these things herself. If you dont present facts, offer her LOTS of possibile places where she can research and find options and answers HERSELF..... I SAID HERSELF....... wouldnt you just consider that enabling her to NOT take resposibility for things, AND learn and grow from such a HUGE lesson?
It is NOT impossible, at such an early age, to "navigate" through" these problems !!! By saying some of these things, are you assuming that you already "know" her and that she is going to fail?
To some in the world, this would be the "end of the world"...... but to others, this would be a opportunity to grow that she would benefit from. DONT SHORT CHANGE THE YOUNG LADY by throwing negatives ONLY at her, I am sure she is well aware of consequences and/or possible problems, she wouldnt be worried if she wasnt, right?
Lets give out some information so that she can strengthen and educate HERSELF, and not become a "statistic", but an overcoming young lady. Its not impossible, unless a person has already "written it off" to be. Think about it.
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SIGNS AND BLOOD TESTS ARE NOT ENOUGH.
AMNIOCENTESIS is the only way to know for 99.8% sure.
Otherwise it can ALWAYS be a false neg or positive.
Amnio does not lie. |
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Hizgrace4all
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| Posted: 08/23/07 - 18:41 Post subject: |
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| Carifairy wrote: | SIGNS AND BLOOD TESTS ARE NOT ENOUGH.
AMNIOCENTESIS is the only way to know for 99.8% sure.
Otherwise it can ALWAYS be a false neg or positive.
Amnio does not lie. |
Hi Carifairy,
I had a couple of questions for you.
If a poster wants to send us a PM how do we go about doing that or activating that?
What are your thoughts on Planned Parenthood?
I wanted you to know, though we may disagree on some issues, your heart is a BIG one as I have seen through some of your posts. You seem to be quite a neat person.
Many blessings to you young lady
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There is a little "Send private message" link under everyones "Name"/Handle.
For some reason, I am unable to access my PM's through any of my 'member services', but I get them in my email. I opted to have 'alterts' sent to me through email.
PP has two different "healthcare" options.
"Health centers" which do not provide abortion, only provide STD testing, birth control, mammograms, and other gyn related care.
Their "Abortion clinics" actually do the aboriton services.
I am a fan of the health centers, because they help so many low income women obtain services that they may not have access to otherwise.
PP abortion clinics..I am NOT a fan of.
I work in a private clinic, so we offer prenatal care 'plans', and care for both pregnant women and women that choose abortion.
We are not 'herdy', and we take time with each and every woman that we see.
I think that PP is so popular because it is well known, women do not know that there are better options out there.
I think that because PP can be so herdy and 'clinic like', that they do not take the time to CARE for people.
I do recommend their health centers, but not their abortion centers. I think that they lack the extra quality of care.
We actually talk to women having the abortion. We ask if anyone is forcing her to do it. (Minors are given extra special attention as far as this goes)
If anyone is forcing or coercing a woman into the abortion, we explain her rights(minors), and that legally she can make any decision that she wants about her body. |
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