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Wild Orchid
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 Posted: 02/25/07 - 23:12 Post subject: Re: MASTER(duh)BATE!! |
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| Luluredlocksoikn wrote: | I'm by no means saying pregnancy is a punishment because a woman has sex. I'm eternally grateful I have the people in my life that I do, and wonder,"If his/her mom had an abortion, how would the world of mine or in it's entirety, be different?"
At the same time, I believe ending a pregnancy has saved the emotional and definately physical well being of many women. Rape victims, women with high health risks, pregnancies resulting from incest, possibility of loosing family structure.
I don't believe abortion should be used as a form of birth control. Get on the pill, the patch, the shot, a condom, or a toy (motorized or otherwise.) This moral excuse we use shouldn't continue to come between women. Supporting eachothers decisions, I didn't say AGREE, will help us make stronger more compassionate women in the future.     |
I was thinking about the view of... I was raped, and this is a product of a horrible thing etc.... anything in life you can look at that way, especially if it enables you to take the easy way out, on the other hand... if someone close to you dies in an accident.... can you take it back? No!! Life is unpredictable, sometimes we dont get choices we like or the allowence to make ones just to be selfish, so why should a pregnant woman get to be homicidal? You made a decision not to prevent the possibility of pregnancy. Im not saying there is absolutely NO exception.... but I have yet to hear one. Pro choice is a lose term... one that weak ppl have chosen to interpret according to their selfish desires. |
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| Posted: 03/02/07 - 12:23 Post subject: |
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Just to use your own argument against you... You say that because it's impossible to bring your friend back if they die in an accident... that life... and death... should not be the choice of people... that no woman should have the right to an abortion... and that anyone who believes that women should have a choice are cowards...
Okay, so... hypothetically, what if you DID have the ability to bring your friend back after an accident? What if you COULD save them? Obviously, if this were the case you would wouldn't you? I think that you're grouping two concepts that ought not be grouped. Life and death are completely different, and you can't say that because you can't bring someone back from the dead that you shouldn't be able to have an abortion, thus stopping life before it starts.
You know that you would save your friend in that accident if you could... if you wouldn't... then remind me never to be a friend of yours.
As for the cowards... I think anyone who believes that either groups (pro-live/pro-choice) can be considered cowards is a coward... Because both sides present their own difficulties.
I think that you should reform your argument... because the accident analogy is a little absurd. |
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Wild Orchid
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| Posted: 03/02/07 - 19:30 Post subject: |
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| vqa1416 wrote: | Just to use your own argument against you... You say that because it's impossible to bring your friend back if they die in an accident... that life... and death... should not be the choice of people... that no woman should have the right to an abortion... and that anyone who believes that women should have a choice are cowards...
Okay, so... hypothetically, what if you DID have the ability to bring your friend back after an accident? What if you COULD save them? Obviously, if this were the case you would wouldn't you? I think that you're grouping two concepts that ought not be grouped. Life and death are completely different, and you can't say that because you can't bring someone back from the dead that you shouldn't be able to have an abortion, thus stopping life before it starts.
You know that you would save your friend in that accident if you could... if you wouldn't... then remind me never to be a friend of yours.
As for the cowards... I think anyone who believes that either groups (pro-live/pro-choice) can be considered cowards is a coward... Because both sides present their own difficulties.
I think that you should reform your argument... because the accident analogy is a little absurd. |
First of all... dont attempt to quote someone when you cant get it right.
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If you were using my own argument against me, then why is it you only talk about bringing someone back...? I dont see you mentioning that if it were legal to murder someone, would I?
And I used the word coward in reference to ppl turning to abortion bc they are simply such scum that they refuse to face their mistakes. I dont see that your clever enough to even be replying, you arent on the mark at all. |
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| Posted: 03/02/07 - 23:35 Post subject: |
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| I completely agree with what Luluredlocksoikn said ! That is exactly the thing I would have said to the first post ! Abortion should not be used as a birth control ! If you don't want to have children get your tubes tied !! Abstain from sex....We were put on this earth to procreate !! It's unnatural for someone to think that a beautiful child is an invasion of her body ! The natural thing is to have children ! Fine...she doesn't want a baby....ever....and she surely doesn't deserve to have a little miricle growing anside of her and loving her!! Thank God that woman doesn't want to have a child ! She would just kill it !! |
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| Posted: 03/03/07 - 01:20 Post subject: |
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I agree with the last comment Wild Orchid said...an "accident " is just another form of birth control !!! Get it together ladies! Condoms and birth control pills are free through family planning centres!!!! If you don't want to get pregnant ,,,,,DON'T. If by any chance that it is from a product of anything out of your control, then, my apologies....and this message doesn't apply to you. But for those of you's who have unprotected sex, or a concenting sexual event...Don't whine and cry that you may be pregnant !! What did you think would happen if you had sex ??? THAT IS WHAT SEX IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR !!!!!!!  |
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| Posted: 03/03/07 - 02:50 Post subject: |
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| Wild Orchid wrote: | First of all... dont attempt to quote someone when you cant get it right.
Second,
If you were using my own argument against me, then why is it you only talk about bringing someone back...? I dont see you mentioning that if it were legal to murder someone, would I?
And I used the word coward in reference to ppl turning to abortion bc they are simply such scum that they refuse to face their mistakes. I dont see that your clever enough to even be replying, you arent on the mark at all. |
This is a comment is completely not needed, referring to the "scum". While some of us agree or disagree with this side of an issue that is older than some of our posters are, the inability to accept that someone might make a -legal- choice does not indicate they are scum. It is simply that the legal system has allowed the choices to be made and therefore they are.
In a society where we have communities drawn apart on issues such as sexual education in schools, yet parents who do not properly teach their children safety, we cannot expect every teenager from the age of 12 till 17 to be knowledgeable. Nor can we expect them to be healthy enough to carry a child to term. More so, in poorer communities and those that are heavily religious, it is difficult to receive free or low cost birth control because of governmental red tape, even young adults are not well informed of ways to prevent pregnancy.
These are just some of the type of people that you are classifying as "scum", just so you are aware. And if you fail to believe that these situations happen, take a trip to the smaller towns in the Southern USA or the MidWest. Amazingly on the East and West Coast cities of the USA it has been said they have fewer teen pregnancies because their young adult populations are more informed. I am uncertain of the truth in this matter, however if it is true, it is something that is working and I hope the practice is better followed for informing our up and coming adults.
On this topic itself, that pregnancy is an invasion, if someone feels that way, and does not want to have children, there are plenty of precautions and ways to avoid getting pregnant in the first place.
| Wild Orchid wrote: | | I was thinking about the view of... I was raped, and this is a product of a horrible thing etc.... anything in life you can look at that way, especially if it enables you to take the easy way out, on the other hand... if someone close to you dies in an accident.... can you take it back? No!! Life is unpredictable, sometimes we dont get choices we like or the allowence to make ones just to be selfish, so why should a pregnant woman get to be homicidal? You made a decision not to prevent the possibility of pregnancy. Im not saying there is absolutely NO exception.... but I have yet to hear one. Pro choice is a lose term... one that weak ppl have chosen to interpret according to their selfish desires. |
Just to clarify, are you against women who have been raped and fall pregnant from that act, having an abortion? |
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| Posted: 03/03/07 - 10:37 Post subject: |
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| ImmortalOne wrote: | | Wild Orchid wrote: | First of all... dont attempt to quote someone when you cant get it right.
Second,
If you were using my own argument against me, then why is it you only talk about bringing someone back...? I dont see you mentioning that if it were legal to murder someone, would I?
And I used the word coward in reference to ppl turning to abortion bc they are simply such scum that they refuse to face their mistakes. I dont see that your clever enough to even be replying, you arent on the mark at all. |
This is a comment is completely not needed, referring to the "scum". While some of us agree or disagree with this side of an issue that is older than some of our posters are, the inability to accept that someone might make a -legal- choice does not indicate they are scum. It is simply that the legal system has allowed the choices to be made and therefore they are.
In a society where we have communities drawn apart on issues such as sexual education in schools, yet parents who do not properly teach their children safety, we cannot expect every teenager from the age of 12 till 17 to be knowledgeable. Nor can we expect them to be healthy enough to carry a child to term. More so, in poorer communities and those that are heavily religious, it is difficult to receive free or low cost birth control because of governmental red tape, even young adults are not well informed of ways to prevent pregnancy.
These are just some of the type of people that you are classifying as "scum", just so you are aware. And if you fail to believe that these situations happen, take a trip to the smaller towns in the Southern USA or the MidWest. Amazingly on the East and West Coast cities of the USA it has been said they have fewer teen pregnancies because their young adult populations are more informed. I am uncertain of the truth in this matter, however if it is true, it is something that is working and I hope the practice is better followed for informing our up and coming adults.
On this topic itself, that pregnancy is an invasion, if someone feels that way, and does not want to have children, there are plenty of precautions and ways to avoid getting pregnant in the first place.
| Wild Orchid wrote: | | I was thinking about the view of... I was raped, and this is a product of a horrible thing etc.... anything in life you can look at that way, especially if it enables you to take the easy way out, on the other hand... if someone close to you dies in an accident.... can you take it back? No!! Life is unpredictable, sometimes we dont get choices we like or the allowence to make ones just to be selfish, so why should a pregnant woman get to be homicidal? You made a decision not to prevent the possibility of pregnancy. Im not saying there is absolutely NO exception.... but I have yet to hear one. Pro choice is a lose term... one that weak ppl have chosen to interpret according to their selfish desires. |
Just to clarify, are you against women who have been raped and fall pregnant from that act, having an abortion? |
My gawd you like to see yourself in print!! lmao
Anywho... while replying to your posts was once somewhat amusing, youve worn yourself out.I cant even bring myself to finish reading your drab, self contradicting post.
Another one that needs to google, 'hobbies'. Best of luck! |
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| Posted: 03/03/07 - 11:49 Post subject: |
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| Wild Orchid wrote: | | ImmortalOne wrote: | | Just to clarify, are you against women who have been raped and fall pregnant from that act, having an abortion? |
My gawd you like to see yourself in print!! lmao
Anywho... while replying to your posts was once somewhat amusing, youve worn yourself out.I cant even bring myself to finish reading your drab, self contradicting post.
Another one that needs to google, 'hobbies'. Best of luck! |
Thank you for that clarification, and the statements that every rape victim is selfish. Perhaps you need to take a real hard look at life and stop living in a fantasy world created by your own twisted opinions. |
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| Posted: 03/04/07 - 00:27 Post subject: |
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| ImmortalOne wrote: | | Wild Orchid wrote: | | ImmortalOne wrote: | | Just to clarify, are you against women who have been raped and fall pregnant from that act, having an abortion? |
My gawd you like to see yourself in print!! lmao
Anywho... while replying to your posts was once somewhat amusing, youve worn yourself out.I cant even bring myself to finish reading your drab, self contradicting post.
Another one that needs to google, 'hobbies'. Best of luck! |
Thank you for that clarification, and the statements that every rape victim is selfish. Perhaps you need to take a real hard look at life and stop living in a fantasy world created by your own twisted opinions. |
..Or.... perhaps you should go to fkn school, you moron.
I said nothing, let alone anything in detail about rape victoms. You seem to need that comparison for your own uneducated attempts at a reply.
Try getting a life. You make me sick. You help no one and in doing just that you justify your own patheitc life. Like I have previously stated, do not attempt to quote someone if you cant get it right. Facious pig. |
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| Posted: 03/04/07 - 09:59 Post subject: |
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| Wild Orchid wrote: | ..Or.... perhaps you should go to fkn school, you moron.
I said nothing, let alone anything in detail about rape victoms. You seem to need that comparison for your own uneducated attempts at a reply.
Try getting a life. You make me sick. You help no one and in doing just that you justify your own patheitc life. Like I have previously stated, do not attempt to quote someone if you cant get it right. Facious pig. |
Have I touched a nerve? Apparently your high view of yourself has failed to justify anything you have posted. Instead of continuing to try to insult me, perhaps you should look over the forum for mental disorders and learn a little bit about yourself instead of harassing women here who are pregnant. |
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