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 Posted: 12/06/06 - 09:22 Post subject: SUBOXEN and quitting--- My story... P.S. THIS IS LONG! |
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That all depends on the drugs you took, how much, how long, and then your suboxone usage.
I snorted Oxycontin for about a year, it started slow, and I was up to taking up to 80 mg sometimes, $1400/mo. drug habit at the height of my usage. Aside from Suboxen, I'm prescribed Lithium and Valium. I was taking valium before, got it off the streets. It helps my chest. I have asthma, pleurisy, and anxiety attacks, so I never took them for pleasure, I don't think they are anyway, but I have friends who want me to give them one, and 19/20 I'll say no.
I "quit" on 6-6-6, I don't believe in the Devil, God, Jesus, whoever. I took about 15 mgs of Vicodin before I went to see this psychiatrist. I came home and took about 90 more mgs, and said, I quit. I have relapsed twice. The first time was about 2 months ago, a very tiny line, and then about 3 weeks ago I did about 20 mgs, but I was on Suboxen, I was on mushrooms that day though, so I gave up Valium for nothing. Good, serves me right, now I won't do it.
My house was broken into, (10) 8 mg Suboxen, 80 Valiums (which pissed me off the most, and they are cheap, I pay about $6 a pill, not to mention $100 bill each time I see my psych, although, I have only paid him $50, not my lithium of course, and my pot. I suspect the neighbor across the street. I've been nothing but nice to her. I think she just uses me for my generousity. She comes over, smokes a joint, she'll actually call and ask me if have any, and will ask if she can come over, and even after the break-in (this has happened before), she sees whats on my table, her boyfriend is a loser, 20 yr heroin addict, she and he have it made it a point that it makes him sick (makes me feel better), so to the point of the story, I went almost 5 days with no suboxen or valium. I felt so bad. I couldn't sleep because of all the pain, bone and muscle, the pain of someone violating me like that, and that being someone I know, it has to be. Shivers never stopped, my heat was at 77 degrees sometimes, still even taking 2 mgs of suboxen, I'll wake up, with a frozen shirt, very damp, I felt also like I had the worst fever in my life. Depression is constant, but the withdrawals lessen each day, but at a very slow, slow pace, but every day it gets easier, so you always have something to look forward.
I have 20 left, the key is to taper until your taking a mg or less, and to take it less often, for instances, I always take mine either before I sleep, or in the morning, depends on how I feel, what I'm doing.
I'm going to tell myself to enjoy the pain once I go cold turkey from sub. Every time I feel pain, I'll tell myself, I did this to me, so don't ever ever do this again, though I have a small feeling inside my head that I would like to do it once after a year or so being clean. I have friends who have taken oxys more than just a couple of times, hundreds of dollars, just never got addicted, because they didn't depend on it, do it every single day.
One thing that has helped me, and someone who is in between jobs like myself, or someone who has time or money, is to go on vacation to wherever in the world you've always wanted to go. A new environment, away from friends and dealers, its an amazing help, I bet anyone who has done the samething as I did felt the same way, please reply if you have, or reply anyway, I'm very interested in listening to everyone, and everyone's problems and success.
I'm in the Netherlands as we speak, and my withdrawals have gone down, which is what my friend told me a month ago when he went to Miami. I love Amsterdam, has everything I want, freedom you couldn't imagine in the States, and its not just going to coffeeshops smoking the best pot and hash in the world, or going to smartshops, getting shrooms (I've done shrooms a bunch, I took them for the first time 2 days ago, did it once, very small amount, liked it, and then started doing them a couple times a month in the last 5 months, and I never get sick off those soft drugs, and they help in the rehabiliation process, but everyone is different.
Whats really funny, is that the first time I came, I tried to get Vicodin, the pharmacist told me they don't even have that drug in their country. They know its a killer, so they legalize soft drugs, and whats even funnier is that my friend I'm staying with is 39, her and the 5 friends I've met of hers have NEVER even tried it. Go to Amsterdam, you'll see Americans, Brits, countries with harsher laws. Our dragonian laws have made Americans resorting to other drugs such as alcohol, which is evil, I quit when I was 21, but I drank every night like I do with pot (I smoke pot at 9 am sometimes too), and always felt sick, didn't go to college, would wake up at 2 pm, didnt have a job, and my roommate beat his girlfriend anytime they drank, after 3 months were kicked out it was that bad, and they just started drinking. Tobacco is bad too, but it won't impair you and in the process you won't have the possibility of killing a family of 4 because you wanted to drink and drive. I'm no hypocrit, I drove drunk a couple times, and I'm very ashamed of it, but after the drinking pretty much vanished, I really reflected and understood that that was a drug I never wanna mess with, just like Oxycontin. Even with Oxy's, someone who is at home snorting oxys isnt hurting anyone but themselves.
I have maxed out all my credit cards, 14k in all, used mostly for drugs, my house will be on foreclosure, my business operations have stopped, my partner and I are just waiting to collect everything owed, settle everything, close the corporation. That had nothing to do with drugs, Flint's economy, Michigan in general is the worst, Flint is rated #1 economy-wise, and they are the #3 Most Dangerous cities in America, Detroit is #1. The pain of quitting will be worth it someday, it won't be right away, so don't ever relapse, its just going to be more pain at the end, I wish everyone can just remember that from my post, and that I feel for everyone in here, and depresses me that we are all going through this mess, but, with support, which is what we do here, we can ALL get clean, we can do this together. |
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| Posted: 12/20/06 - 19:54 Post subject: Re: SUBOXEN and quitting--- My story... P.S. THIS IS LONG! |
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| SteelyDan1982 wrote: | That all depends on the drugs you took, how much, how long, and then your suboxone usage.
I snorted Oxycontin for about a year, it started slow, and I was up to taking up to 80 mg sometimes, $1400/mo. drug habit at the height of my usage. Aside from Suboxen, I'm prescribed Lithium and Valium. I was taking valium before, got it off the streets. It helps my chest. I have asthma, pleurisy, and anxiety attacks, so I never took them for pleasure, I don't think they are anyway, but I have friends who want me to give them one, and 19/20 I'll say no.
I "quit" on 6-6-6, I don't believe in the Devil, God, Jesus, whoever. I took about 15 mgs of Vicodin before I went to see this psychiatrist. I came home and took about 90 more mgs, and said, I quit. I have relapsed twice. The first time was about 2 months ago, a very tiny line, and then about 3 weeks ago I did about 20 mgs, but I was on Suboxen, I was on mushrooms that day though, so I gave up Valium for nothing. Good, serves me right, now I won't do it.
My house was broken into, (10) 8 mg Suboxen, 80 Valiums (which pissed me off the most, and they are cheap, I pay about $6 a pill, not to mention $100 bill each time I see my psych, although, I have only paid him $50, not my lithium of course, and my pot. I suspect the neighbor across the street. I've been nothing but nice to her. I think she just uses me for my generousity. She comes over, smokes a joint, she'll actually call and ask me if have any, and will ask if she can come over, and even after the break-in (this has happened before), she sees whats on my table, her boyfriend is a loser, 20 yr heroin addict, she and he have it made it a point that it makes him sick (makes me feel better), so to the point of the story, I went almost 5 days with no suboxen or valium. I felt so bad. I couldn't sleep because of all the pain, bone and muscle, the pain of someone violating me like that, and that being someone I know, it has to be. Shivers never stopped, my heat was at 77 degrees sometimes, still even taking 2 mgs of suboxen, I'll wake up, with a frozen shirt, very damp, I felt also like I had the worst fever in my life. Depression is constant, but the withdrawals lessen each day, but at a very slow, slow pace, but every day it gets easier, so you always have something to look forward.
I have 20 left, the key is to taper until your taking a mg or less, and to take it less often, for instances, I always take mine either before I sleep, or in the morning, depends on how I feel, what I'm doing.
I'm going to tell myself to enjoy the pain once I go cold turkey from sub. Every time I feel pain, I'll tell myself, I did this to me, so don't ever ever do this again, though I have a small feeling inside my head that I would like to do it once after a year or so being clean. I have friends who have taken oxys more than just a couple of times, hundreds of dollars, just never got addicted, because they didn't depend on it, do it every single day.
One thing that has helped me, and someone who is in between jobs like myself, or someone who has time or money, is to go on vacation to wherever in the world you've always wanted to go. A new environment, away from friends and dealers, its an amazing help, I bet anyone who has done the samething as I did felt the same way, please reply if you have, or reply anyway, I'm very interested in listening to everyone, and everyone's problems and success.
I'm in the Netherlands as we speak, and my withdrawals have gone down, which is what my friend told me a month ago when he went to Miami. I love Amsterdam, has everything I want, freedom you couldn't imagine in the States, and its not just going to coffeeshops smoking the best pot and hash in the world, or going to smartshops, getting shrooms (I've done shrooms a bunch, I took them for the first time 2 days ago, did it once, very small amount, liked it, and then started doing them a couple times a month in the last 5 months, and I never get sick off those soft drugs, and they help in the rehabiliation process, but everyone is different.
Whats really funny, is that the first time I came, I tried to get Vicodin, the pharmacist told me they don't even have that drug in their country. They know its a killer, so they legalize soft drugs, and whats even funnier is that my friend I'm staying with is 39, her and the 5 friends I've met of hers have NEVER even tried it. Go to Amsterdam, you'll see Americans, Brits, countries with harsher laws. Our dragonian laws have made Americans resorting to other drugs such as alcohol, which is evil, I quit when I was 21, but I drank every night like I do with pot (I smoke pot at 9 am sometimes too), and always felt sick, didn't go to college, would wake up at 2 pm, didnt have a job, and my roommate beat his girlfriend anytime they drank, after 3 months were kicked out it was that bad, and they just started drinking. Tobacco is bad too, but it won't impair you and in the process you won't have the possibility of killing a family of 4 because you wanted to drink and drive. I'm no hypocrit, I drove drunk a couple times, and I'm very ashamed of it, but after the drinking pretty much vanished, I really reflected and understood that that was a drug I never wanna mess with, just like Oxycontin. Even with Oxy's, someone who is at home snorting oxys isnt hurting anyone but themselves.
I have maxed out all my credit cards, 14k in all, used mostly for drugs, my house will be on foreclosure, my business operations have stopped, my partner and I are just waiting to collect everything owed, settle everything, close the corporation. That had nothing to do with drugs, Flint's economy, Michigan in general is the worst, Flint is rated #1 economy-wise, and they are the #3 Most Dangerous cities in America, Detroit is #1. The pain of quitting will be worth it someday, it won't be right away, so don't ever relapse, its just going to be more pain at the end, I wish everyone can just remember that from my post, and that I feel for everyone in here, and depresses me that we are all going through this mess, but, with support, which is what we do here, we can ALL get clean, we can do this together. |
Hey Steely Dan,
Love that band!!! You sound so melancholy. I hope you get well. I know I had to get out of my element to start the process. I have had a life long addiction to relationships and drugs (any and all). Done some crazy stupid things in 34 years man!!!!! I have only recently kept single for about a year. Got my own place w/ my daughter and went back to the Methadone clinic (for the 2nd time) I will switch to Suboxone soon as a transition to INDEPENDANCE! I'm hoping it will soften the blow of side effects from detoxing. I am taking Lexapro for depression and that helps. Sometimes I feel lonely cuz' I have no friends, just my daughter and my mom. I have a hard time relating to others and trusting people. I still isolate myself I guess. Anyway Tips? dawnsunrisemarie at yahoo |
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| Wow, you are truly a mess! Why can't you just wise up? Get into a rehab, work the steps. Drugs, drugs, drugs, How awfully boring! What about love, flowers, success, children and love? get some help or you will die. |
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| Posted: 11/05/07 - 19:02 Post subject: Is suboxen addicting? |
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| :?: Would someone contact me as soon as possible... I am trying to find out of suboxen is addicting. My boyfriend was on pain pills for almost 2 years and is now using suboxen to help himself get off but he dont want to go from one thing to another. Please let us know your experiance with it! :?: |
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