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Maria
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 Posted: 06/01/07 - 09:02 Post subject: Subutex & Breast feeding |
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| Firstly, sorry because my english is very bad, but I hope that you will understand me. I'm using subutex and I have baby whose old 2 months. Can I breast feeding? If I can't how long subutex stay in body, and after how many days I can begin with lactation? I really want to breast feeding my baby, but I don't know is it safe for her? I'm using daily 2 mg subutex. |
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shellirae73
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| Posted: 01/16/08 - 15:12 Post subject: Re: Subutex & Breast feeding |
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[quote="Maria"]Firstly, sorry because my english is very bad, but I hope that you will understand me. I'm using subutex and I have baby whose old 2 months. Can I breast feeding? If I can't how long subutex stay in body, and after how many days I can begin with lactation? I really want to breast feeding my baby, but I don't know is it safe for her? I'm using daily 2 mg subutex.[/
actually subutex is safe for u and the baby i am pregnant and my doctor switched me from Suboxen to subutex. |
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1st_time_mom
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| Posted: 05/15/08 - 08:25 Post subject: |
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 I am still confused about these subutex. I too just got prescribe them...a switch from suboxone. The doctor that prescribed them to me told me that it is totally safe to breastfeed, BUT my old doctor that was prescribing me the suboxone told me that it is NOT safe. I have been doing a little research today and so far...my suboxone doctor was right. It is NOT okay to breastfeed while on subutex because it passes through the milk and because it passes through the milk, the baby is still getting a little bit of that subutex. From what I have learned, the baby will go through a slight withdrawl for the first few days after it is born because of the subutex you take, but if you breastfeed, you are still giving the baby the subutex and when you stop breastfeeding, the baby will go through the withdrawl....better for the baby to go through the withdrawl in the hospital while the doctors can monitor it. Just the thought of the baby going through the withdrawl at home with just me is so scary. I wanted so bad to breastfeed, but not worth it  |
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ovaltineangela
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| Posted: 05/19/08 - 16:39 Post subject: breastfeeding while on subutex |
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| Okay, here is the thing. There has not been any research done either way with the breastfeeding on Subutex/Suboxone. You need to listen to your body, your heart and your God. Doctors are human beings too. The reason they say it is not safe is because they don't really know enough about it to give you the, "OKAY." One thing I can tell you is that John Hopkins is the 3rd best hospital in America and they did some tests on women who were on HIGH levels (relatively high 50-100mg's) of Methadone and wanted to Breastfeed. They came up with the conclusion that the pros of breastfeeding for both the baby and the woman outweighed the cons. Number one- If you have been on maintance meds your whole pregnancy than your stability is number one for your babies health. Do not get off the medication if you have been on these meds for years and there is a chance that withdrawal would cause you to use illegal drugs because this is not a great decision. Number two- DO NOT TAKE ADVICE ABOUT DRUG RECOVERY FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS NEVER BEEN THROUGH IT. Recovery is not a A + B = C equation , and it certainly is not logical. There are a tremendous amount of changes your body mind and soul must go through to truly and I mean truly get off of these meds. I used Oxycontin for a long enough time where I NEEDED to go to a clinic in order to get stability back into my life. I was on 120 MG of methadone and now I am on 2 mg of subutex. The changes in my life have been slow, but successful. It has been 4 years and there is not a chance in the world that I would use. BUT! If I were under the horrible effects of withdrawal who knows how much my personality and mind would change. It is a mineute and I mean mineute amount of medication that passes through your breastmilk and if you have been on these medications the whole time your baby has been growing inside you what is another 3 months? Really. You can let your baby go through neonatal treatment, or you can allow your baby to get the nutrients it needs from your God given breastmilk while receiving the necessary bonding experience the baby needs with you. You have the human right and I mean HUMAN RIGHT to breastfeed if you are passionate about it and understand it's benefits. Than you can give the baby less and less milk and start with the formula. Some babies will take both, others will stick with one. There are a tremendous amount of benefits with breastmilk and you are the only one that can make that decision. If you are not comfortable making your own medical decisions than by all means listen to your doctor. My suggestion would be if you are at 2mg of subutex or under than breastfeed. If you are not, than don't, but remember that your body is a science but IS NOT A SCIENCE. Everyone is different and what is best for one may not be for another. I am going to breastfeed. My boyfriend was not for it because of the research than I led him to some of the newest research and had the doctors email him to let him know what they thought about it. He now trusts me and my decisions regarding the baby because I am carrying the baby and I am the babies mother and only mother. Some people may think I am being selfish. I know that I am being selfless. This baby needs to bond with me and needs my milk. I trust that God made my body able to lactate for the reason and only reason of feeding my beautiful little girl. I know that breastfeeding is better for my body and will help me and the baby sleep better, recover better, and love each other better. I do not trust the medical industry because they would not create a society and a system that relies on quick fixes and symptom treating philosophys if they truly were looking out for the better half. Dig deep within yourself. Eat fruits and vegetables as much as possible and drink purified water. Exercise and raise your heartrate through walking and swimming. Sing at the top of your lungs in your car and cry when you need to. Do not be jealous of your peers or siblings, and love people for who they are. Love yourself; love your enemy. Do not try to reason with thoughts that are unjust, and do not try to figure things out that just need to be gone and move on to a beautiful thought. The SECRET is is that that law of attraction does not know the difference between what you do want and what you dont want. Compare this to absolute numbers; the absolute value of -14 is 14, the absolute value of 14 is 14. So if you don't want 14 than don't think about -14 think about a totally different number. More than half of your health is in your mind. Your ability to change, and your ability to trust in yourself. Trust yourself. Do the research-the research inside yourself. The number one problem our society has is that we look outward for answers not inward. Jesus is right there in the form of the holy spirit to give you all the necessary guidance and explanation. Your answer may be different than mine and yours is still right. I hope everything goes well for anyone that is trying to do the best thing for there children all over the world. Love-Angela |
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ovaltineangela
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| Posted: 05/19/08 - 16:56 Post subject: |
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| 1st_time_mom wrote: | | I am still confused about these subutex. I too just got prescribe them...a switch from suboxone. The doctor that prescribed them to me told me that it is totally safe to breastfeed, BUT my old doctor that was prescribing me the suboxone told me that it is NOT safe. I have been doing a little research today and so far...my suboxone doctor was right. It is NOT okay to breastfeed while on subutex because it passes through the milk and because it passes through the milk, the baby is still getting a little bit of that subutex. From what I have learned, the baby will go through a slight withdrawl for the first few days after it is born because of the subutex you take, but if you breastfeed, you are still giving the baby the subutex and when you stop breastfeeding, the baby will go through the withdrawl....better for the baby to go through the withdrawl in the hospital while the doctors can monitor it. Just the thought of the baby going through the withdrawl at home with just me is so scary. I wanted so bad to breastfeed, but not worth it |
Very smart to not want your baby to go through withdrawal unless under doctors supervision just remember NO HUMAN BEING HAS EVER DIED FROM OPIATE WITHDRAWAL. Back many years ago you couldn't even be medically treated for withdrawal unless it was something like benzos or alcohol or another substance than you could actually DIE from withdrawal. YOU CANNOT DIE FROM OPIATE WITHDRAWAL. Although you may want to kill yourself you won't die. PLUS, babies do not have the predisposition of the mental process of withdrawal. Most of physical withdrawal symptoms are amplified by our minds need to fix it and knowing that we could fix it by using. Your baby does not know that. She does not know your friend down the street has drugs or your doctor will presribe them. All she/he knows is that she wants to eat, sleep, poop, and love you. You can try to find an example of someone who died from opiate withdrawal but I can guarantee you that they were under the effects of other medications when they went into withdrawal. Like I said, you can die from Benzo(xanax, klonopins, ativans) withdrawal, and certainly alcohol, but not opiates and certainly not subutex. I commend you on wanting the safety of your child to come first and wanting the baby to be monitored by a heart rate monitor and other hospital devices. |
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