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Posted: 12/14/07 - 22:29 Post subject: Opiates and cannabis |
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I have taken Vicodin for years to combat a nasty spondylolisthesis (a slippage of lumbar vertebrae relative to one another and trapping nerves, etc.) I don't get "high" from opiates, but it feels great early in the morning after I've creaked out of bed and hobbled to the medicine cabinet, to feel the pain recede so I can finally go make coffee.
Surely, this is not the evil "high" people are so afraid of? It's a blessing, a miracle of technology that the pain can be defeated, one of the benefits of living in our age. However, opiates should be used as sparingly as possible so I've taken steps. I take Vicodin in the morning and after lunch and that gets me through the workday. In the evening I smoke cannabis, which makes it unnecessary to take any more Vicodin. The advantage of this approach is that Vicodin does not impede concentration while cannabis does. So Vicodin works while I am at work, and, having an occupation where my evenings are generally unencumbered, I smoke pot in the evening when I don't need to be sharp and on the go. Of course, I want to add that as a California resident, I am using medicinal cannbis completely legally.
Cannabis really does help against pain but its psychoactive characteristics make it unsuitable for many activities. This fact should be considered when using medicinal cannabis. However, cannabis enhances many other activities such as conversation, music and art appreciation, writing on blogs, to mention a few ... |
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Posted: 01/17/08 - 04:15 Post subject: percs and oxy and endocet |
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| Since knee surgery a year ago I have been taking Endocet and Oxycodone. I have lowered my dose of oxy from 60 mgrams (or whatever measurement they come in) 20 plus endocet for "breakthrough pain". I asked my DR why he called them percocets when the percription is for endocet. " that is what they are most commonly called but they are the same" |
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Posted: 01/24/08 - 01:39 Post subject: Endocet v Norco |
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I have been on some sort of hydrocodone 10 for 7 years since a work accident. Most recently I've been on norco 10/325.. 4 pills/day. I also take Darvocet 100 3 pills/day in between the norco.
My pain doc decided to switch me to endocet 10/325...3 pills/day and stop the norco and darvocet. The problem was at first it didn't seem to cover the pain for a full 24 hours. I then had break through pain after 4-5 hours. Then after 2 weeks I started having migrains after 4-5 hours from taking an endocet pill.
Now I'm back on the Norco-Darvocet regime again. My question is.. if Endocet is stronger than norco and darvocet why did I have so much trouble with it? Is their another Oxycontin brand that would work better? |
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Posted: 02/14/08 - 04:57 Post subject: malpractice |
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| is the word to discribe what "rowdies" doctor will be facing! That is reckless to administer that amount and to know you take 12-24 tabs on top of the morphine. I DONT believe it at all because if for some reason the doctor is writting this for you, I damn well doubt the pharmacist would dispense it. Yes, for all the pre-med know-it -alls out there a pharmacist can and will override a prescription at his or her discretion. Furthermore, 24 "perkies" is a fatal dose if done with morphine in the time period you stated. Im straight up saying your full of crap. Oxycontin is a time release form of percocet, percodan ect,,, it is oxycodone, the active incredient antagonist. Its sold in a 10mg 20 40 60 80 120 160mg tab. essentially the 160mg tab is equal to 32 / 5 mg tabs of percocet. However its for terminal patients and its time released over 24 hours. If chewed you die. Simple as that!! so taking 24 tabs without the time release is BS!! BTW percocets are the alternative to percodans because they cant be diluted for intravenus injection{they add a binder} i and percodan has 5mg oxycodone and percocet only has 4.75mg. And thats a fact....JACK!!! bigmark sjca........... |
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Posted: 02/16/08 - 17:38 Post subject: Percoet & Endocet |
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| actually i have to agree with rowdie 40, i also injured my back...tho at work...and ive been taking anywhere from 7-12 percocet pills a day for the last 4 months for pain managemen. and being on WCB i have to sign a narco contract with my doc saying that i will oNLY get the scripts from him and get them filled in ONE pharmacy. my doc knows very well that i take as many as i do for the pain, i also have to be very careful to make sure that i eat when i do so to help with the damage that they can cause the liver. my doc prescribes 400-500 tabs a month-month and a half, depending how much i need at any given time in the day or night. i DONT however get high from them either(only depending how many tabs i take at a time, if i take my normal dose of 2-3 tabs every 6-8hrs then no, but more than that(4), i get a buzz going, so yes i get momentarily high, doesnt last long), i think that a person reacts differently to drugs and alcohol according to bady mass. common sense says that it may knock a smaller person on their ass...but not a bigger person. my body doeshowever get used to them after a while, and sometimes i find that i think that i have to up my dose, but i also know thats how my body is reacting and its in my head, so i dont allow myself to do this, under ANY circumstances. i hate popping pills to begin with, so i know ill have no probs at all going off them...ive had them before and gone off them with no issues...ergo why i say that i can get off them with minimal addictions. im only giving you MY personal experience, and its all very well doctor monitored...but its also very true that a patient does get perscribed 400-500 tabs in a 4-6 weeks period. and this is how they affect me personall...as ive said, everyone is different in how they react. |
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Posted: 02/22/08 - 10:21 Post subject: endocet |
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I think Endocets are not eqivilent to Percocet... They say it's the same but I feel they are completely different and way cheaper. Why is that? Do you suppose the manufacturer could possibly lie about its strength and als be able to get away with it?? I do believe however, it depends on the individual and that persons tolerance to the chemical... Please, I will welcome any responses to this. I am curious to others experience with these medications. Thanks for reading this. (Teri)...Columbus Ohio[/b][/i] |
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Posted: 03/23/08 - 19:36 Post subject: |
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| rowdie 40 is rite, when i was addicted to percocet i could take 20 -30 a day and be high as a kite, but when i had surgery i was takin the same amount but wasn really feelin them. |
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Posted: 03/29/08 - 00:37 Post subject: PA Physians Assiants rely re 300 Edocet/Percet per month |
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| You are NOT a Doctor/Pharmasist. I suffer 24/7 from severe chronic pain, a severe head injury from a "Hit & Run" on my body & left for dead, degenerate arthritis along with multiple herinered discs on neck & lower back with bone rubbing oppisite bone. All so painfull. I do not live nor enjoy life anymore. It's turned me into a total recluse. My doctor of 12 years knows everything re my health and PAIN and dose give me anythting for relief. MANY pharmasists can legally refuse to fill strong pain meds. They have never seen my medical chart, MRI'S, Cat Scans, etc. Shame on thousands of YOU that refuse to fill a Rx by patients Dr. Many people, such as myself are suicidal. Stop playing GOD while others suffer. That's why these strong pain meds are made by large Pharmacetical Co.'s. There are many doctors that will not write a Rx with complete knowledge of patients pain to save themselves from being a so-called "Pill Farmer" or loosing their liciense allowing patient to suffer. Shame on them too. My doctor cares about me. There sure are thousands of Online Web Sites willing to give pain meds for a high price. Pure greed. I also spend thousands of $'s for Corisone injections. They Work!. Spelling & errors are from pain & sitting at computer. |
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Posted: 04/22/08 - 06:33 Post subject: guest |
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I never write into these, but I have a serious complaint about Endocet. I have a herniated disk and have been prescribed 10mg percocet for about 3 years. I just recently hit a point where I realized I was addicted, about a month ago. I stopped taking the pills and within a week I felt like a whole new person. Pain decreased, sex drive increased, laziness and mood swings went away. This is all common stuff that anyone on these meds should know will occur when they are ready to come off of them.
Now over the 3 years I went periods of times, days to weeks at a time where I would stop taking them and then get back on them. I would always recieve a generic version of percocet, never once did I recieve endocet, which people call percocets generic, or twin. Now I dont care what anyone else says, but you can not tell me the case studies are going to be the same for these 2 DIFFERENT meds. A user of these meds that actually needs them for chronic pain knows their strengths, and their side effects.
I just had my wisdom teeth removed about 14 hours ago, and I am sitting up at 4:00AM researching the internet on why the hell I feel like I am about to rip my own skin off. The itching caused by endocet is ridiculous compared to percocet. I actually do not take Loricet/ Loritab due to the crazy itching it causes me, which is nothing compared to the Endocets. I cant really attest to the strength part of it right now because my mind cant take its focus off of the itching, but I definetly feel as if the Endocet has a shorter period of time that it reduces the pain. I see a lot of doctors and pharmacists that disagree heavily to what I and many others are stating on these types of forums, and that is that generics are not always going to be the same for everyone, strengthwise and side effects wise.
Another perfect example of this is going to be Somas, a muscle relaxer. There are the ones that have DAN written on them, and some that say V312. Two complete different medications in my opinion. I can go 1 month with taking the DAN inscripted every morning, I get high off them and extreme relief in muscle tension (the high not being why I take them), and then I will get the V312 sometimes when they're out of the DAN, and the effects are very minimal compared between the two.
Again, I am a long time pill user, and use them to lead a "normal" life. I am stating what has been my pesonal experience with the medication, and I hope my experiences might help others to find what meds will work best for them!!! Dont always read a book by its cover, because the same book might be read and seen completely different by two different people, just like some prescription meds. Sorry for the cheesy analogy, but I think it is a perfect example. Thanks for your time everyone, and wish me luck on sleeping tonight! |
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Posted: 05/05/08 - 12:38 Post subject: Re: difference between endocet and percocet |
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| gladstone wrote: |
Hello! Is there anybody who could tell me if there is a difference between endocet and percocet. First I was using endocet which worket fine for me, and had to take percocet one time from the pharmacy as they didn’t have endocet and I got no pain relief from percocet. Is there anybody who understands the difference/ Thx
| I have been prescribed both endocent and percocet. I too wanted to know the difference between the two. I asked my pharmacist and he got out a book and showed me. Endocet is stronger than Percocet. Percocet is apparently easier on your stomach too. Percocet is supposed to be more refined, therefore milder in relation to Endocet. Hope this helps, ask your pharmacist or go to the web site of the manufacturer, they would be able to give you a precise description of each drug. Michele, Newfoundland, Canada |
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