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Posted: 03/11/08 - 20:31 Post subject: what happens if you take suboxone, then take oxycontin a lit |
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i was wondering what might happen if a person were to take about 2 mills of suboxin, and then a little bit later that same day were to take about 20 mills of oxycontin? i have heard it will make someone go into withdrawls really fast, but my friend says it wont bother you, but then again i also heard that if a person were to mix suboxone and xanax, or most any kind of nerve pill it has a 73% death rate. any one know if thats true? because my friend mixes them together often and he is still alive. i am thinking about trying the suboxone to get off the oxy, but i am not as strong as i need to be and i am worried that i may take the suboxone one day then break down and do the oxy the same day and i dont want to die or have a really bad reaction to it so if anyone out there knows the answers to any of my questions please send a reply to this post
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Posted: 04/02/08 - 23:34 Post subject: Re: what happens if you take suboxone, then take oxycontin a |
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[quote="mudcut"]i was wondering what might happen if a person were to take about 2 mills of suboxin, and then a little bit later that same day were to take about 20 mills of oxycontin? i have heard it will make someone go into withdrawls really fast, but my friend says it wont bother you, but then again i also heard that if a person were to mix suboxone and xanax, or most any kind of nerve pill it has a 73% death rate. any one know if thats true? because my friend mixes them together often and he is still alive. i am
DONT WORRY YOU CAN TAKE OXYS AFTER YOU TAKE A SUBOXONE AND U WONT GET SICK OR DIE U MAY NOT GET VERY HIGH. BUT IT DONT WORK BOTH WAYS U CANT TAKE OXYS FIRST AND THEN TAKE A SUB THE SAME DAY, IT WILL MAKE U SICK BUT U CAN TAKE A SUB AND THEN A OXY...
tAKE SUB THEN TAKE OXY YOULL BE FINE, TAKE OXY THEN TAKE SUB YOU WONT BE FINE BELIEVE ME IVE DONE ALOT OF EXPERIMENTING I NO MY SHIT ABOUT DRUGS I WOULDNT GIVE U FALSE INFORMATION AND I WOULDNT TELL U THIS IF I WASNT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE.. YOU PROBLY WONT GET HIGH FROM THE OXY BUT IT MIGHT TAKE THE PAIN AWAY BECAUSE SUBS BLOCK THE EUPHORIA EFECT OF OTHER OPIATES BUT BELIEVE ME THE INFO I GAVE U IS COMPLETELY CORRECT I AM 100% POSITIVE. HOPE THIS HELPED U OUT BUT I GOTTA GO TO SLEEP BYE!!!!!! |
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Posted: 07/07/08 - 13:58 Post subject: Re: what happens if you take suboxone, then take oxycontin a |
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I am taking suboxone right now and I agree. I have taken suboxone in the morning and methadone at night. You dont get very high but you dont get sick, it will take away the pain. about the zanax i would say its to dangerous to try.  |
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Posted: 08/19/08 - 04:45 Post subject: Order of precedence |
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Here's how it works:
Suboxone binds more strongly to your body's opiate receptors than things like Oxy. That is why it helps people to break the addiction, because the Oxy does less for them. Also, the Suboxone, because it has a stronger affinity (it binds more readily to your body's opiate receptors), will actually knock off the Oxy that is bound to it. That is why if you are not in sufficient withdrawal when you first take Sub, it will put you in to withdrawal because it knocks off the Oxy and attaches itself, but it doesn't stimulate you the same. But if you're coming from having nothing there, then it's better than nothing.
Now, the more you take Oxy's, the more your body builds up a tolerance to it. Depending on how much Suboxone you take, you may not address all of the tolerance that your body has developed, and it will crave more.
So, if you take Suboxone first, when you're in severe withdrawal, it will bind to as many receptors as it can, and you will feel better. Now, if you take a bunch of Oxy, say an 80mg pill, it will try to bind to the receptors that the Suboxone has already bound to, so it won't work. However, whatever receptors that the Suboxone hasn't bound to will be stimulated by the extra Oxy.
So, that is why you can take Sub first (if you're in withdrawal already), and then take Oxy, but not the other way around without feeling sick.
As for benzodiazepams, like Xanax, they can be taken with Suboxone, but only very carefully. I actually had my Sub Dr. prescribe me Xanax to help with the withdrawal symptoms and sleep...however, you have to wait a while after taking the Sub, and you should talk to your Dr. first, because they are technically counter indicated.
Anyway, for months I took my Subs in the morning, my Oxy's at night, and didn't get more and more hooked, like I used to, and I was weaning down and would have quit, but then I ran out of Subs.
I also took Xanax when I first started and didn't take any Oxy's, to help sleep at night and so on and so forth, but never at the same time as the Sub, only a long time after I took the Sub, like several hours.
Hope that helps. |
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Posted: 08/20/08 - 21:31 Post subject: mixing oxycontin and suboxne together |
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| Im sorry but anybody who is takeing oxycontin and suboxones are not serious about geting clean. It sounds to me like your still hanging with the wrong crowd.You can't contiune to hang with the same folks that you used to. And to tell you the truth you shouldn't want to. I had to get rid of some of my best friends because thet were still takeing oxy.I have to make new freinds non users because thats the only way.It will work if only you want it to.And yes you wil not fell good mixing the two. goog luck |
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Posted: 09/22/08 - 16:20 Post subject: Benzodiazepine with Suboxone |
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| I would have to agree with Jeff 414. If you want to continue to be dependent on other prescription drugs and have them control your life you're not ready to take Suboxone. The number reason people die from suboxone is when they use a group of medications called benzodiazepines which includes Xanax. Subozone is a CNS depressant that is prescribed for you're type of pain management needed for your person pain. If you include another CNS depressant like Xanax the chances of death are increased dramatically if you use xanax for recreational purposes and are trying to feel the high by taking more than is prescribed by you're doctor you would very well die. That is the number one reason people die when taking Suboxone, It's when they mix it with a benzodiazepine and the death rate is much higher than 73%, it's actually around 87% now. Not a good idea man. If you want real help with a real disease I would listen to others who have been through the experience and still remain clean. It sounds like you are doing that. Good work. Keep it up. Don't let drugs control your life. |
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Posted: 09/24/08 - 17:21 Post subject: Oxycontin & Suboxone |
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I commend you for trying to be as safe as possible while trying to kick your addiction. I'm in the same spot as you and that's the reason I found your post.
I'm not about to lecture you; you probably know what you need to do. I'm just gonna say what a recovering addict told me: I've yet to see someone stay clean without some sort of recovery program or group.
Best to you! We've all watched too many people die from this... Don't let yourself be another one. |
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Posted: 10/17/08 - 17:25 Post subject: Reply to idiocy and falsehood! |
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Posted: 04/02/08 - 23:34 Post subject: Re: what happens if you take suboxone, then take oxycontin a
[quote="mudcut"]i was wondering what might happen if a person were to take about 2 mills of suboxin, and then a little bit later that same day were to take about 20 mills of oxycontin? i have heard it will make someone go into withdrawls really fast, but my friend says it wont bother you, but then again i also heard that if a person were to mix suboxone and xanax, or most any kind of nerve pill it has a 73% death rate. any one know if thats true? because my friend mixes them together often and he is still alive. i am
DONT WORRY YOU CAN TAKE OXYS AFTER YOU TAKE A SUBOXONE AND U WONT GET SICK OR DIE U MAY NOT GET VERY HIGH. BUT IT DONT WORK BOTH WAYS U CANT TAKE OXYS FIRST AND THEN TAKE A SUB THE SAME DAY, IT WILL MAKE U SICK BUT U CAN TAKE A SUB AND THEN A OXY...
tAKE SUB THEN TAKE OXY YOULL BE FINE, TAKE OXY THEN TAKE SUB YOU WONT BE FINE BELIEVE ME IVE DONE ALOT OF EXPERIMENTING I NO MY SHIT ABOUT DRUGS I WOULDNT GIVE U FALSE INFORMATION AND I WOULDNT TELL U THIS IF I WASNT ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE.. YOU PROBLY WONT GET HIGH FROM THE OXY BUT IT MIGHT TAKE THE PAIN AWAY BECAUSE SUBS BLOCK THE EUPHORIA EFECT OF OTHER OPIATES BUT BELIEVE ME THE INFO I GAVE U IS COMPLETELY CORRECT I AM 100% POSITIVE. HOPE THIS HELPED U OUT BUT I GOTTA GO TO SLEEP BYE!!!!!!
You are completely ass backwards!!!
if you take a suboxone then oxy, the oxy will NOT work and is completely USELESS.......
On the other hand if you use oxy then take suboxone the suboxone will start to work and you wont feel the oxy!!!!
And all this crap about using suboxone with other opiates and it putting you into immediate withdrawals is BULLSHIT!!!
I am also pissed about people coming on here to give all these scientific explanations!!(people aren't stupid we know you idiots are just copying and pasting it so you can seem somewhat intelligent for once, but its not working.) no body wants to hear it, just give them real talk for their real life problems!!
And if you really have problems GO TO A DOCTOR!!!
If you come on here for advice and take it as 100% truth you must be an IDIOT!!! Drugs are very serious and possibly dangerous.
Don't take advice from people who you have no idea who they are!!!
They could be a sick twisted loser who is purposely trying to hurt someone by telling them false information.
This is my first and last post I just finally got sick of reading dumb ass responses from people who think they know everything!
So basically don't believe everything you read, the only thing you should take from these sites is encouragement!! |
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| so what happens now if ive been on suboxone for a week now and every morning i take an 8 of sub then take a half at 3 pm. what happens if i snorted an oxy at around 11 that same night. can i take my normal dose of sub the next morning or how does that work |
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| Guest wrote: | | so what happens now if ive been on suboxone for a week now and every morning i take an 8 of sub then take a half at 3 pm. what happens if i snorted an oxy at around 11 that same night. can i take my normal dose of sub the next morning or how does that work |
exactly thats what I wanna know.
I havent taken any subs for almost 24 hours.
its 1pm here and I wanna snort an 80ml oxy tonight, but will it get me high? Or will it not do anything?
also I've only been on 8ml subs for 3 days |
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