I've just stopped taking co-codamol-the 30/500 ones.
I've been off them for a week and a half now and i used to take 4 a day so small potatoes compared to some poor souls
throat is really sore, coughing my guts up like a 100 fag a day dot cotton, tired, depressed, lethargic
but benefits are feeling much more in control and much less hazy and vague
my question is does anyone know roughly how long i may feel this rough for?
thank you
I've been off them for a week and a half now and i used to take 4 a day so small potatoes compared to some poor souls
throat is really sore, coughing my guts up like a 100 fag a day dot cotton, tired, depressed, lethargic
but benefits are feeling much more in control and much less hazy and vague
my question is does anyone know roughly how long i may feel this rough for?
thank you
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I've been addicted to codeine now for about a year. I don;t know if it's becoming a real problem? i take only 2-3 tablets a day (30/500), because i feel tired, have a headache or whatever but i can't stop having them. The main thing i worry about are the effects of the paracetamol as well as i drink about 5-6 beers everyday. I work 12hrs a day, 6 days a week so there is no way i can take time off work and i don;t have access to decent doctors. :-(
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me to 4 years, 8 a day 30 mg realizing now its wrong dont no what to do if i tell doctor they might stop my habbit very scared to take the steps in case i cant stop yer i got sucked in
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i have been addicted to codeine for so long i cant remember.at first i enjoyed the feeling it gave me a real high .now its a case of i need it so bad i cant live without it ,ive managed to deceive doctors for years ,i even found a way of getting the repeat prescription. by when the last prescript on the list was up id ring the doctor and make an appointment to see him then cancel it .hey presto there was another 5 scripts for this drug ,i get 200 per month 30/50 .god its REAL SAD i am now wondering what its doing to me ..i have young children who deserve more than me ,i am ashamed of myself .i think ive become like this because of my past ,living with a schitzo father and years of abuse .
to finish i would like to say codeine is a powerful drug that should be banned as it takes over your life .ask anyone who is a addict what is top of there values and it will be codeine .i cant function without it and the crazy thing is i dont get the high very often ,its a withdraw thats why i need to take it .hope this helps someone ..... 8-| 8-|
to finish i would like to say codeine is a powerful drug that should be banned as it takes over your life .ask anyone who is a addict what is top of there values and it will be codeine .i cant function without it and the crazy thing is i dont get the high very often ,its a withdraw thats why i need to take it .hope this helps someone ..... 8-| 8-|
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I'm sorry but 100 tablets a day is just unrealistic.
I don't know about the US or other countries, but here in the UK CoCodamol 30/500 is 30mg Codeine, 500mg Paracetamol (Acetaminophen)
Its the 500mg Paracetamol in each tablet (over 2000mg a day) thats going to end up killing youm if you don't stop you will DIE. Its all very well and good getting this nice warm floating feeling you get with CoCodamol (I've taken it every month for menstrual issues for the last year or so) but i'm careful to only take it when I have pain, that means actually stopping taking the pills to see if you have any pain in the first place.
Codeine leaves the body by half every day, so on monday its 100%, tuesday 50%, weds 25%, thursday 12.5%, friday 6.25%
So you can see it takes a week minimum to get rid of codeine from your system, and if you take it every day, conitnually, its never going to break down, and the levels in your body are gonna be sky high!
Go look here:
http://www.pharmweb.net/pwmirror/pwy/paracetamol/pharmwebpic9.html
And from another article:
Signs and symptoms of paracetamol toxicity may initially be absent or vague. Untreated, overdose can lead to liver failure and death within days. Paracetamol hepatotoxicity is, by far, the most common cause of acute liver failure in both the United States and the United Kingdom.[6][36] Paracetamol overdose results in more calls to poison control centers in the US than overdose of any other pharmacological substance
I don't know about the US or other countries, but here in the UK CoCodamol 30/500 is 30mg Codeine, 500mg Paracetamol (Acetaminophen)
Its the 500mg Paracetamol in each tablet (over 2000mg a day) thats going to end up killing youm if you don't stop you will DIE. Its all very well and good getting this nice warm floating feeling you get with CoCodamol (I've taken it every month for menstrual issues for the last year or so) but i'm careful to only take it when I have pain, that means actually stopping taking the pills to see if you have any pain in the first place.
Codeine leaves the body by half every day, so on monday its 100%, tuesday 50%, weds 25%, thursday 12.5%, friday 6.25%
So you can see it takes a week minimum to get rid of codeine from your system, and if you take it every day, conitnually, its never going to break down, and the levels in your body are gonna be sky high!
Go look here:
http://www.pharmweb.net/pwmirror/pwy/paracetamol/pharmwebpic9.html
And from another article:
Signs and symptoms of paracetamol toxicity may initially be absent or vague. Untreated, overdose can lead to liver failure and death within days. Paracetamol hepatotoxicity is, by far, the most common cause of acute liver failure in both the United States and the United Kingdom.[6][36] Paracetamol overdose results in more calls to poison control centers in the US than overdose of any other pharmacological substance
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I feel like I am reliving the last few days, reading the posts on withdrawal from you guys. It is a living HELL I felt as if I was going mad, I can honestly say that over the last four days I have experienced all of the symptoms that come with codeine withdrawal. I was prescribed dihydracodeine 30mg and tramadol by my GP for a damaged disk in my back and collected the drugs on repeat prescription..........it was all too easy and I have been on the drugs for 4 years. I too take them in 4`s and 5`s at a time just to function. I know this blog started out as complete doom and gloom but I feel im turning the corner today (last dose was sunday) and look forward to each day as the symptoms are less evident, I keep telling myself that " THIS WILL PASS"
To anyone out there who feels that they are stuck, dont give up hope make a decision and stick with it, tell those close to you so you have support and ride the storm
I will post another account of my progress in a few days and hopefully I can inspire some of you to find a way out.
There needs to be stricter controls on codeine and its derivitives and GPs need to monitor patients better when prescribing this drug.
To anyone out there who feels that they are stuck, dont give up hope make a decision and stick with it, tell those close to you so you have support and ride the storm
I will post another account of my progress in a few days and hopefully I can inspire some of you to find a way out.
There needs to be stricter controls on codeine and its derivitives and GPs need to monitor patients better when prescribing this drug.
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I have been taking up to 48 codeine tablets a day on a nd off for about 6 months. When I stop taking them I feel awful for about three or four days. I then tend to take them again. Trying to stop but it's hard. :(
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how many of u had anxiety as one of your withdrawal symptoms. I did not realise I had been taking syndol and co codamol for so long. I have only ever had the 8mg codeine and 10 mg syndols both with 500mg paracetamol but i feel this dose seems to be enough to make me feel rubbish now i am trying not to take them. I stopped as i wanted to detox! well i am anxcious and feel low. How long will this last?
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Hello All. A quick comment about Tylenol #1... abusing this will damage your liver from the acetaminophen overdose, not the codeine. So take the same amount of codeine by way of T #3's. It's safer. And tell your doctor.. s/he can prescribe a gradually lowering dose, which is the proper way to treat these things. U titrate up, maintain at a steady state, then titrate down at the end. U wouldn't start up your car and hit 100mph 10 sec's later, would U? Then treat your body as well as U treat your beloved car. Good luck.
And for God's sake, doesn't anyone read the product literature that accompanies these meds? One guy was taking 100 Tylenol a day. It would be much safer to be a clean-needle heroin addict. 100 T1's is probably at "LD25" in the research world... the dose at which 25% of the subjects die. So, to reiterate, the large amount of acetaminophen is more damaging than the smaller amount of codeine in these pills.
Oh yeah, don't mix NSAID's. I thought I'd minimize the risk by taking aspirin, ibuprofen & acetaminophen, all in small doses. But it turns out that's very risky... the effects multiply each other. And be very careful with alcohol... interacts with NSAID's to hurt the stomach. By the time your stomach hurts, the severe damage has already been done. -MH
And for God's sake, doesn't anyone read the product literature that accompanies these meds? One guy was taking 100 Tylenol a day. It would be much safer to be a clean-needle heroin addict. 100 T1's is probably at "LD25" in the research world... the dose at which 25% of the subjects die. So, to reiterate, the large amount of acetaminophen is more damaging than the smaller amount of codeine in these pills.
Oh yeah, don't mix NSAID's. I thought I'd minimize the risk by taking aspirin, ibuprofen & acetaminophen, all in small doses. But it turns out that's very risky... the effects multiply each other. And be very careful with alcohol... interacts with NSAID's to hurt the stomach. By the time your stomach hurts, the severe damage has already been done. -MH
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Guys listen - I've been on and off addiction to various opiates for around 13 years now. Only way to kick them is to cold turkey and that means going the necessary sentence without opioids in your system.
If you "dabble" then get some Ephedrine + Codeine / Amphetamine Sulphate / like medicine and this can "speed up" withdrawal - e.g. puts you into fast forward. It hurts worse but you are happy because you are bouncing around sweating like nobodies business and it hurts but not unbearably.
As for everything else - same as for the flu - so Lemsip etc but nothing with opioids in. I repeat nothing with them in as this resets your sentence and your progress is wasted.
Good luck anyone suffering this terrible situation. It 's a demon that will rear its head if you give it chance because now you're sensitised to it and your body craves it long after it's gone from your system.
If you "dabble" then get some Ephedrine + Codeine / Amphetamine Sulphate / like medicine and this can "speed up" withdrawal - e.g. puts you into fast forward. It hurts worse but you are happy because you are bouncing around sweating like nobodies business and it hurts but not unbearably.
As for everything else - same as for the flu - so Lemsip etc but nothing with opioids in. I repeat nothing with them in as this resets your sentence and your progress is wasted.
Good luck anyone suffering this terrible situation. It 's a demon that will rear its head if you give it chance because now you're sensitised to it and your body craves it long after it's gone from your system.
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I have been enspierd by the stories of you guys, i was taking 10 30 /500 co codamol and 24 nurophen pluss a day, pluss a bottle or two of wine each night, 3 weeks ago i woke to paramedics in my bedroom!! for IBS.
I had had a grand mall sezure in my sleep, it took this wake up call to get me off these distructive drugs, i had to drop the nurophen strait away and dropped my co-codamol gradually, im now on 1 co-codamol in the morning,, im gonna have to knock that on the head too.
the withdrawal symptomes are not AS bad as they were but im still exsausted every day!!! that being the worst symptom as its hard to do simple tasks!
the crying for no normal reason (hering sad storys) is still happeing, but my head is no longer feeling as if its in cottonwool.
The only question i have is how long can the exsaustion last?
good luck everyone on there jurny to end of there hell with codene xx
I had had a grand mall sezure in my sleep, it took this wake up call to get me off these distructive drugs, i had to drop the nurophen strait away and dropped my co-codamol gradually, im now on 1 co-codamol in the morning,, im gonna have to knock that on the head too.
the withdrawal symptomes are not AS bad as they were but im still exsausted every day!!! that being the worst symptom as its hard to do simple tasks!
the crying for no normal reason (hering sad storys) is still happeing, but my head is no longer feeling as if its in cottonwool.
The only question i have is how long can the exsaustion last?
good luck everyone on there jurny to end of there hell with codene xx
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hey everyone :-) like everyone else im hooked on co/codamal have been for years
and its really not nice :-( i take 4 at a time and cant stop i go crazy when i dont have them
i take my own 100 then i start on my hubands there ment to last me 2 weeks and they only last me a week
i want to come off them but scared to i get really sore belly everydays like cramps all over even under my
rips sore heads first thing in the morning feel so depressed 247 :-( can someone plzzzz help
and its really not nice :-( i take 4 at a time and cant stop i go crazy when i dont have them
i take my own 100 then i start on my hubands there ment to last me 2 weeks and they only last me a week
i want to come off them but scared to i get really sore belly everydays like cramps all over even under my
rips sore heads first thing in the morning feel so depressed 247 :-( can someone plzzzz help
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Dihydrocodeine is said to be twice the strength of normal codeine.
I'm an ex heroin addict that was on 120mgs methadone a day which calculates to 3000mg's of codeine a day (Chronic oral morphine equivalent dose is: 450.00 mg)
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I did a fast detox to 80mg methadone per day, only problem was I wasn't throwing the rest away so you can only guess what happened to the extra, gulp-nod etc...
When I did my cold turkey I suffered drug withdrawal psychosis that lasted about 1 year so whach out for that going cold turkey, wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but the odd thing was I never suffered that bad a withdrawal only numbness all over my body and extreme lethargy for about 3-6 months.
Anyway I relapsed (wrong place at the wrong time) after being clean for 2 years for only 3 weeks going from 1 bag which is one regular hit 0.2 gram up to using 1 gram a day! Its been 7 days off the heroin but I've still been using up to 420mg dihydrocodeine (DHC).
I tapered down fast on the DHC to the last dose of 80mg's yesterday morning, now using just regular codeine with the Cold Water Extract (CWE) method and just took 80mg's right now today!
Still experiencing mild withdrawal symptoms on 80mg codeine, just really annoying muscle aches and lethargy even on this dose so I must be doing very good at this point.
When not on any opiate, I just get really bored out my mind but with 0 interest in anything I normally like doing and very anti social. I will continue with the slow detox tomorrow on maybe just the 8/500mg co cods.
Anti Depressants might help as well with mood, I'm on 100mg's sertraline, it seems to be helping my mood but I really just need my natural endorphins working again now.
Never thought codiene was that bad to withdrawal from guys. Best of luck to all that wants to kick it full stop! :)
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I'm an ex heroin addict that was on 120mgs methadone a day which calculates to 3000mg's of codeine a day (Chronic oral morphine equivalent dose is: 450.00 mg)
Opiate conversion calculator
I did a fast detox to 80mg methadone per day, only problem was I wasn't throwing the rest away so you can only guess what happened to the extra, gulp-nod etc...
When I did my cold turkey I suffered drug withdrawal psychosis that lasted about 1 year so whach out for that going cold turkey, wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but the odd thing was I never suffered that bad a withdrawal only numbness all over my body and extreme lethargy for about 3-6 months.
Anyway I relapsed (wrong place at the wrong time) after being clean for 2 years for only 3 weeks going from 1 bag which is one regular hit 0.2 gram up to using 1 gram a day! Its been 7 days off the heroin but I've still been using up to 420mg dihydrocodeine (DHC).
I tapered down fast on the DHC to the last dose of 80mg's yesterday morning, now using just regular codeine with the Cold Water Extract (CWE) method and just took 80mg's right now today!
Still experiencing mild withdrawal symptoms on 80mg codeine, just really annoying muscle aches and lethargy even on this dose so I must be doing very good at this point.
When not on any opiate, I just get really bored out my mind but with 0 interest in anything I normally like doing and very anti social. I will continue with the slow detox tomorrow on maybe just the 8/500mg co cods.
Anti Depressants might help as well with mood, I'm on 100mg's sertraline, it seems to be helping my mood but I really just need my natural endorphins working again now.
Never thought codiene was that bad to withdrawal from guys. Best of luck to all that wants to kick it full stop! :)
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Oh yeah and for those popping over 8 pills a day your best bet is to do a Cold Water Extraction (CWE) Google it it's so easy, about as easy as making a cup of very good old original tea!
My own simple instructions of a CWE. Say we're using 10 pills of the over the counter 8/500s which would give us 80mg's of codeine!
(1) Crush pills in mortal and pestle or blender/grinder whatever.
(2) Put powder in a tall glass that you can see through clearly.
(3) Add Hot (NOT BOILING) water and mix with a fork for about a good 2-3 minutes every 10 minutes for an hour.
(4) After hour put glass in the fridge for 4 hours. (At this stage all the paracetamol starts to sink to the bottom as its not water soluble, codeine is water soluble!)
(5) After all the paracetamol is gone to the bottom and the liquid is clear (or clearish), siphon or just simply pore the clear liquid into another glass and drink! It does taste minging but it will save your organs and life!
Oh yeah, I also read that codeine has a ceiling effect of around 200mg's and that is why the max prescribed amount of codeine is 240mg's a day, so this guide is to save livers and not get more people high as they WILL take the codeine with or without paracetamol!
Anyway, did manage to get some sleep last night and will stick with the regular 8/500's today then tomorrow go onto regular paracetamol.
My own simple instructions of a CWE. Say we're using 10 pills of the over the counter 8/500s which would give us 80mg's of codeine!
(1) Crush pills in mortal and pestle or blender/grinder whatever.
(2) Put powder in a tall glass that you can see through clearly.
(3) Add Hot (NOT BOILING) water and mix with a fork for about a good 2-3 minutes every 10 minutes for an hour.
(4) After hour put glass in the fridge for 4 hours. (At this stage all the paracetamol starts to sink to the bottom as its not water soluble, codeine is water soluble!)
(5) After all the paracetamol is gone to the bottom and the liquid is clear (or clearish), siphon or just simply pore the clear liquid into another glass and drink! It does taste minging but it will save your organs and life!
Oh yeah, I also read that codeine has a ceiling effect of around 200mg's and that is why the max prescribed amount of codeine is 240mg's a day, so this guide is to save livers and not get more people high as they WILL take the codeine with or without paracetamol!
Anyway, did manage to get some sleep last night and will stick with the regular 8/500's today then tomorrow go onto regular paracetamol.
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