The pain and why am i so tired after oxycodone withdrawal

joshuajames77226748 over a year ago

After using Vic's and then up to 3 time 15.5 mg of Oxies for 8 years. I went to a local rehab center and did 4 days of suboxone and 7 days of so-called rehab. Now its been a week and a half since I have been home and I feel like c**p. I have massages every other day (I live near a school and they are only 15.00 with tip)....I walk every morning (45 min). My body is sore and I am depressed and have little ambition!<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

I think that people think that once they get out of rehab or quit the cold turkey bit; that things will return to normal. With short term use, I can see this happening....8 Years. Not!!!!!!!

Oxies and other narcotics give you energy and when you have been using them they naturally take up places in your pleasure zones in your brain. Hence, when you stop your artificial energy is gone and that’s why you are tired and depressed!

I can see why people return to using! I have no plan on doing this. But I think that I need to share to people that you are most likely going to go through a period of time that is going to be ruff. It took me 8 years to get in this mess; Legitimacy I might add; neck pain from a chiropractor!

I think that the best thing to do is to get exercise and eat the best you can. I have tried every supplement, with little results. I am now doing protein powder. Who knows.

Suboxone, I wouldn't do it again! I tried it 3 times at home and when I went to this so-called treatment center they used it: 4mg 3days 2mg 2day and then the jump! I would have been better off just going cold turkey there?????

Of course I am open to any thoughts! Peace Joshua

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Opiatefreeme215350 over a year ago

Hey there!!

I wish I had a magic wand and could just wave away all of it, but I can't...what you have described is unfortunately the "norm" when detoxing from opiates. You touched on the fact of feeling depressed with no energy and the pleasure zone in your brain being affected, your 100% correct on that! Our brains naturally make "dopamine" and when abusing opiates (and some other drugs as well) it supplies the brain with the so called "fake dopamine" and after awhile the brain will stop producing it on it own. Depending on how much and how long someone used...the brain may or may not start dopamine production again. Thats where a HUGE problem lies with people trying to get back to normal in recovery..that is where you tend to get the "methadone maintenance lifers" from because supplying them with the methadone, it in turn supplies the brain with dopamine, and the person feels better. I am sure most out there know about this stuff, but it isn't easy to deal with in early recovery, hence relapse problems. The fact that you are trying to stick it out and are well aware that there is a problem with that issue..you have a great chance of being successful and I am behind you 1000%. Please keep in mind that if for any reason you happen to slip, don't beat yourself up over it, just suck it up and get back on the wagon ASAP! Unfortunately, relapse is part of recovery, not saying that everyone in recovery has had relapses, but for the majority, it has. Sounds like you have a handle on what you want and how to get it, so GO GET'IT!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!!

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Opiatefreeme215350 over a year ago

I meant to add, that some people find that taking antidepressant medication jump starts the brains natural production and they only have the need for it short term.. It is another option I thought I would share with you!......again GOOD LUCK! I am rooting for yah!

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joshuajames77226748 over a year ago

Theresa, Thanks for your kind words! I see your name is Opiatefreeme. I take it, you have been down this road? Yes, I know what is going on in my head. I hate it though! The hard part is seeing people come clean and "getting like a free ride" as in the fact that they start feeling better within a few days after detox.

I have to fight to make myself walk in the morning. Turn the heat up to 80 plus degrees. Every muscle in my body aches. Yep, I have heard the majic wand thing before; but I would still like one.

I don't do well on antidepressants? But may try something if I can't get some relief soon.

Thanks for rooting for me. I wondered if anyone would write back.....Thanks Joshua.....Its 5am in Detroit!

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Opiatefreeme215350 over a year ago

I can sense your struggle thru your words..it is loud and clear that you are having a tough go of it and I feel for you, I have been there, done that too many times! I was on methadone maintenance for 12 years at 360mgs a day! That was a MFer to come off of, in fact I tried cold turkey and I wound up in the ICU for 3 days then I was a mess, seizures, speech was impaired, fall risk..etc...but, I eventually did the suboxone route and I did it exactly as I was told, and I personally has a good experience with it. I really thought for certain that I was going to be a lifer on methadone, because of exactly what you are talking about..but once I got on suboxone and allowed some time to go by and did a proper taper, I didn't feel anywhere like I did before. I sure as heck wouldn't wish a "feetox" or even an opiate addiction/withdrawal on my worst enemy!! (a feetox at a clinic when they suddenly drop your dose when unable to pay, I HATE THAT WITH A PASSION!!!!) Thank god I never had to endure one, but just watching people having to was bad enough! I was asked once, if you could have one point in your life changed, when and why would you? I quickly replied the moment I fell and hurt my back, and he asked why, and I said that it was that moment that eventually lead me to becoming an addict and I would give anything to live my life NEVER knowing how of addiction in my life, never to have become an addict! That is an impossible order, but I can live without active addiction. Have you considered doing subs or maybe a methadone clinic? I feel that there are people that truly need to have it to function daily, and it isn't their fault, it is what it is and if the person can live with that, then that is all that matters!!! Kudos to them! I have rambles on now long enough....I hope today is a good day or at least better! You are already 3/4 of the way there...home stretch.....KEEP GOING!!!

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Guest over a year ago

what she was saying with the suboxin is true. it is a good way to get off the pills with out detoxing. you just need to be careful about getting hooked on the subs. you have to do everything in moderation. try not to abuse your suboxin. ive read that people have. ive not had a problem with abusing mine. it is a VERY exspensive drugs, but i get about an 8mg strip and it lasts me a week (way cheaper than getting pills off the street)... detoxing is absolutely horrible. stay strong and know that you can do this. once you get over the hump youre free and clear (detoxing).

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joshuajames77226748 over a year ago

That was a great post. I must admit, I am having the worst day today in 18 daze (my last drop of Sub), so far. I have some subs and other things, but really don't want to give in yet. Bare with me, I don't feel like typing too much today. Thanks and I will keep you updated. Its nice to know that people stay on here after there journey. I am sure there is still a journey!

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joshuajames77226748 over a year ago

Pifft89 thanks. Stay tuned to see what happens next. Thanks for your kind words of encourgement! Joshau

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Opiatefreeme215350 over a year ago

Thank you hun, but I call it as I see it (or at least try to!) Please remember that if for any reason you feel you have to do what you have to do to make it thru this, don't beat yourself up, get up, dust yourself off, and jump right back on the wagon...ok! I really hope you keep us updated on your progress!!

Your New England Supporter,

Theresa :)

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joshuajames77226748 over a year ago

Hey, Theresa
Tried to send you a PM, but I must have 5 posts. So, I guess I am golden, now? The last 2 days where (not good). I was able to walk (took everything I had) each day. I almost made an appointment to see my pain Dr. this morning…..But I am going to wait a few more days…….I did have a bit of clarity today (felt good) but it only lasted about a half an hour. But its better than nothing! Indeed. Its been 2 week since I left the rehab place. I haven’t told you that story yet. So I will now. Bear with me! I have also been on valium for 15 years and they cold turkeyed me off that too. (I knew that they may be able to help me with the oxies, but I knew better when it comes to benzo’s) (the poison from the Devil)I could not handle that part of it. I felt like I was going crazy. I couldn’t think or read for days….So I went AMA. Again medical advice! I will never let someone cold turkey me off of 15 years of valium again. I will tapper once I feel stable on this oxie thing. Thanks for thinking about me…..Josh from Detroit

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Opiatefreeme215350 over a year ago

As for the rehab...know their deal all too well....be very careful with the benzo detox..cold turkey from benzos can kill you..no joking!!! I would have gone AMA myself!! I have taken various benzos over the years for different things but thankfully never had a liking for them! My thing became opiates. Well, I was wondering how you are doing..just keep posted..its always nice to have someone who can relate to whats on your mind..bad or good! Take care, talk to you later!! Theresa

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joshuajames77226748 over a year ago

Yep, I felt like a rat in a rat cage (despite all my rage I am still a rat in a cage). Another sad part of the rehab experience was that people where coming to me with all their side effects and I told them that you have to beg the nurse for meds to ease the withdrawal; sleeping pills ect. It was a very sad experience. The place boasts a second in the nation! Half of the people that I was in there with are back...:(...But I am making some strides. I feel like I am shaving a few percentages each day. The bad news is the neck pain is back, but I am still holding on to what has been done so far. Thanks for being a friend and listening to me babble. Joshua

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jvox over a year ago

As it worked for me and my son (we prior athletes that got addicted to painkillers) try purehealthgroup.com or withdrawalrelief.com. It worked decently enough for us to get though the withdrawal side effects and off of oxycontin.....

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Jonny23 over a year ago

Hi all. I take half of a 15mg oxycodone as needed for pain for over two years due to a nasty motorcycle accident. The pain is here most of the time and is usually severe even after all this time. In this day and age I feel extremely lucky that my doc understands. If they would have taken my leg against my wishes, I would probably be walking without pain by now. My point, though, is that when am not feeling pain, I start to feel depressed as this junk leaves my system. This is the first time I've gotten use out of someone's entries on the internet and I would first like to thank everyone on here for speaking about this. BTW, I have some brain injuries as well so I have trouble concentrating and making my point. I honestly believe I could lose the pills any time if the pain wasn't there but I could see the depression really going bad places. I've always been a glass half empty and could really probably benefit from any more tips that you have. I don't even remember what my original point was but I suppose this will work for now. Thanks again.

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God is my savior over a year ago

Wow I'm not the only one I am one to that is struggling with this problem. I took care of the withdrawals by waiting til I withdrawled then took the littlest peace of a long acting pain pill to help a little then the third day was a lot better i only needed one piece a day for two days and now it's only been 2 days with Nuthing n it's really hard to not think about so I wake up every morning and workout but I cum home feeling so tired. Before taking opiates I had so much energy now I feel lazy all the time. It sucks I have to take care my husband who has ALS and our two children. Sry I'm going on so much but this has been a battle and I want to get through this but it makes it hard when my husband is prescribed them and I have to give him one everyday. If anyone has good feed back ideas let me kno I will appreciate the encouragement because sometimes I feel like jus taking a pill to get thru the day.

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