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I was diagnosed with add in my freshman year of high school. I was put on a low dose of Ritalin, but stopped after a couple of months because I didn't like how it made me feel. I got really good at the guitar during this period (something which has stayed with me to this day). I was told I would grow out of the behaviors associated with add.
Well I didn't grow out of it... I lost a good career in construction about 4 years ago because when it came time for lay-offs those who were frequently late were the first on the chopping block. I was well-liked by my bosses, and even received an unprecedented early raise and promotion where I then ran a crew of workers. I have learned that people who are just mediocre at their work but show up on time will always have a leg-up on you; no matter how good you are at your job.
This is why add is frustrating. People with different brain chemistry compared to "normal" people are often very creative/ inventive, but have problems with day-to-day tasks. I am chronically 5 to 10 minutes late, but I am highly productive when doing something I enjoy (like building structures or band practice).
I was building mechanical systems for medical labs, research facilities, and other industrial facilities. I find that my add is actually beneficial when doing something where I'm physically creating something I find interesting (including art, writing, or something mechanical). I go into states of "hyper-focus". For instance, I'll be writing an article for my college newspaper and will have 20 tabs open in mozilla and like two books next to me. I then find a way to pull it all together and produce a great article. I tune out everything around me during these "trances".
Back to the story...
The layoff forced me to couch surf for a while and eventually move back in with my parents. I quickly found a sales specialist job at The Home Depot and began attending school. I got fired from home depot after 6 months for being chronically late; despite being a top salesman and earning several awards from customers calling the store to say how great my service was. I now work two jobs and attend school part-time. One of my jobs is very sympathetic to my chronic lateness as long as I call ahead of time. I am on the dean's list at school despite being fairly unorganized... I have to be very selective with my professors and will literally drop a class if I think the teacher is going to be unsympathetic to tardiness or lost assignments (ratemyprofessors.com is an awesome aid).
I went on Adderall almost 6 months ago after being pulled aside and written up for being late and unfocused at my early morning job. My manager told me her daughter has add and that I clearly have the same symptoms. I did a lot of research into adhd drugs and landed on Adderall as my prime choice. My work performance has improved immensely. I can focus on finishing one task, or even accomplish multi-tasking. Before Adderall, I would attempt to take on an insane amount of tasks, and was a hideous judge of time.
Adderall is not a magic pill. You MUST study various organizational techniques, and I personally see benefits from short periods of Zazen (Zen Buddhist meditation). I try to meditate for 15 minutes to an hour a day. Check out the scientific empirical data that supports Zazen as an excellent brain booster (sort of like exercise for the brain). The scientific proof doesn't really matter; it's all up to what the practitioner directly experiences from it.
Doing any sort of exercise helps. Construction, Aikido, Zazen, and weight lifting all aided me to unite the body and mind, which helps with my focus. However, these things alone were not enough to allow me to "fit-in" and thrive in modern society.
My girlfriend of two years is also very patient and understanding. However, she also holds me accountable for my mistakes (but in a compassionate and respectful way).
Psychedelic substances can be beneficial when used respectfully and infrequently. They are not for everyone, but certain mind expanding chemicals will force you to travel to a place where you HAVE to deal with yourself and your scattered, fragmented, and out-of-control petty ego. Once again, these are not "magic pills" and require YOU to facilitate the positive change.
Make sure to take quality vitamin supplements. Calcium-magnesium and the b-vitamins get depleted from Adderall. Don't take low-grade calcium, because it's typically nothing more than limestone and has a horrible bio-availability. Calcium and magnesium need each other to work; they also help with Adderall tolerance issues. Co-enzyme Q-10 and pharmaceutical grade fish oil are essential for cardiovascular support. Avoid vitamin c for a few hours around your dose, because any form of acid (like ascorbic acid/ vitamin c) will destroy amphetamine.
I also have to comment on the doses some of you are taking. 60 to 170mg is absolute insanity! You are begging for serious trouble on doses like that. I don't care what anyone, including psychiatrists, say about what is a safe level to prescribe; anything above 30mg a day (for extreme ADHD) is counter-productive . I take no more than 15mg a day, and frequently take breaks from it when I feel my tolerance is starting to increase.
I just took two weeks off. I was absolutely fine with withdrawals. I noticed the organizational behaviors and level of self-awareness that Adderall has granted me stayed with me during my "drug holiday". This substance needs to be treated with respect and perhaps a level of fear. There are substances on this earth that are far more powerful than your desires and willpower alone.
As for the posters suffering from amphetamine induced psychosis... First of all I empathize with the mental distress and concern you must be feeling. I know several people who severely abused drugs (including methamphetamine and amphetamine) and they are now doing better after years of abstinence. Some people simply should not use and can not handle taking drugs due to their unique biology and defense mechanisms. You will eventually return to baseline after some time and healthy lifestyle choices. Set some small and achievable goals for yourself everyday. You must address and face any other "co-morbid" psychological problems you may be experiencing; at some point you have to take some responsibility and stop pointing the finger at drugs for all your problems. If you're depressed, try and figure out why... and it's not "because I don't have Adderall". Sorry, but that isn't the real reason.
good luck
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The reason you got addicted is because you abused a notoriously habit forming family of drug to achieve an effect it was not prescribed for. You might as well have told the doctor you had cancer and tried to score some oxy. I'm assuming the only reason you didn't go that route is that it would have made you feel too much like a druggy. Or maybe claiming that it's all the evil terrible oxy's fault that poor little you got addicted just seemed like a harder sell.
Seriously bro, take responsibility for your own c**p decisions. It's just depressing to see posts like yours where some s**t feels the need to rebuke the use of a medicine just because you cant possibly be expected to control yourself.
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please get away from this legalized chemical as FAST as you can . I have the same exact history, started adderall and was left alone to find a way off of this c**p. it's NO DIFFERENT ... than the way your body will react to any strong central nervous stimulant, whether it be in pill for (METH-AMPHETAMINES) vs STREET CRACK ... just different forms . TRUST ME .. I am never going back on this doctor prescribed poison again.
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How did you ultimately get off the Adderall? rehab?
Also, I was curious to know if there was a certain combination of vitamin supplements and/or an anti-depressant that helped lessen the effects from prolonged use?
I am in a similar situation and have thankfully been adderall free for 8 months. I am a much better "me" without it in regards to my relationships, outlook on life, etc. However, when I feel pressure at work or have to complete a seeming insurmountable task, the urge to find adderall is palpable. I think to myself: "I know that I could get a ton accomplished in a short amount of time if only I had a few pills to get it done!" As my mind turns to these thoughts, I typically "shutdown" and literally crawl in bed to further avoid doing whatever it was that needs to get done. Feeling Productive without adderall is virtually impossible once you have experienced its effects. No matter what, I know that I will NEVER feel as motivated or efficient as I once did on adderall. The high is too good to be forgotten, but my life as an adderall addict is not worth living at all. You take the good with the bad. :)
Being off adderall has been the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. Truly. It is a daily struggle to maintain sobriety and remain adderall free, however no amount of recognition at work or project is worth losing everything I love and becoming a person that I am ashamed to be. Adderall proved to be the "devil" for me, literally, and lead me on a past of personal destruction as well. I feel your pain and know exactly what you mean. Hopefully we can both stay on track and not fall back into the adderall trap, or any other substance used to cope with our hunger. Thankfully I never took drugs for recreational purposes or else I would probably have moved on to illegal drugs, like cocaine or another upper, to get the rush. This fact alone has been my saving grace!
Reply if you have any advice as you have walked this walk longer than I. Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
God Bless,
LP
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To lmp2294,
I have been taking B12 and B Complex injections (one a week, alternating between B12 and B Complex) for about two months now and have noticed a pretty significant improvement from the "shutdown" feeling you describe.
I had been taking Adderall and/or Vyvanse daily for almost five years. Earlier this year my doctor switched to a practice that does not take my insurance, and I could not afford the visit or meds w/o the insurance. Rather than start over with a new dr I decided this was a good time to stop the meds. I love the way the Adderall made me feel like I was being productive but in actuality I think it caused me to just obsess over one particular task while putting others off (that at times were way more important). I became somewhat of a productive procrastinator. I would make a list of things I needed to do and start on the least important thing (like organizing a closet) and never get to the next task. At the end of the day I was proud of myself for completing task #1 but it would be way too late to do the other things (you can't go to the bank or call your mom at 1am). I would do this every day. I was always super busy, so I felt productive, but still neglecting the things that really mattered.
I was prescribed 3 Adderall a day so when I knew I wouldn't be able to go back to get more I started weaning myself. Before I ran completely out I started taking the B vitamin shots. For about a month I did the shot once a week and one Adderall a day. I've been out of the Adderall for two weeks now and still taking the shots. At times I do feel foggy and my attention span is not that great and it makes me miss the meds a little. However, I am sleeping WAY better! I had forgot how much I missed quality sleep. And I think I am getting more things done. On the Adderall I didn't really feel like socializing, I just wanted to stick to my task and be left alone. This weekend I actually wanted to go outside and play with my kids instead of screaming at them all day for getting in my way while I'm trying to clean. So I think I might be returning to normal :-) So I highly recommend the B vitamins. I get mine from a little outpatient clinic nearby and the cost is actually less than what I was paying for prescriptions. I don't need an appointment or anything. I just show up and get the shot. I hope you'll give it a try or find something that works for you. I know this is a difficult time. Hang in there, things always get better :-)
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My son recently committed suicide after being on Adderall for 5 years and then quitting cold turkey when he graduated. He never abused it, never took other drugs, drank in moderation, never any self destructive behavior, never made rash decisions, never mentioned depression or thoughts of suicide to anyone, made excellent grades throughout K12 and college. When he quit Adderall he completely lost his motivation and apparently his will to live. Within 3 months he could barely drag himself off the sofa, he also started obsessing about things.
I never wanted him on ADHD drugs but he made that decision himself. I know many of you feel you need it to survive, I won't argue with you. But please, if you are thinking about going on it DON'T, it will end up controlling your life, and perhaps ruining, or taking, it. There is a lot of evidence that it makes permanent changes to your brain, and not good one's. These changes make it even harder to quit.
If you are already on Adderal, or one of the other amphetamines salts, taper off very, very slowly. You should also get medical care and be prepared for some pretty horrible withdrawal symptoms (alternating between not sleeping, or not sleeping well, for days and then sleeping for days, absolutely no motivation, your original ADHD symptoms returning with a vengeance, weight gain, depression, etc., etc). Its very difficult but someday you'll find your Adderall isn't helping you nearly as much as it use to as you build up tolerance, and its side effects make it no longer worth taking. Its doubtful you'll be on it for life, and if you are you'll be a mess. So the sooner you can quit taking it the better.
And again, if you are thinking about going on one of these drugs, DON'T. My son had a very bright future ahead of him, now he simply has hundreds of friends and family asking why?
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I was on Adderall for a year and a half. Getting off of it was a godsend, but extremely difficult. Let me give you some advice, from personal experience. Take notes, this will be some of the most helpful, educational information you could find. First, let me help explain what goes on in the brain when you introduce it to amphetamines. Basically, artificial dopamine is pushed across the synapse into the receptors. In time, the brain says, "hey what's all this dopamine in here for?? This isn't supposed to happen SHUT IT DOWN BOYS." And there you have it, now you are dependent on the drug/s for any feel good, happy motivation. So here is a bullet point list, to make it easier, on how to get the human body to start rebuilding dopamine levels, and get YOUR life back:
-First, start jogging, jump roping, boxing or some form of consistent cardiovascular activity. At least 15-20 mins a day, and get a good sweat. This will help your body reproduce dopamine naturally again, as well as help detox your body.
-Eat a VERY clean diet. Kick any ASPARTAME and HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP out of your diet. Apsartame is poison on the mind, and will give you memory recall problems, as well as depression (youtube it). Fruits, vegetables and water are your best friends.
-Look into these supplements specifically: LECITHIN, L-THEANINE (wonderful for memory, and overall mood), FISH OIL (high EPA content) & multi vitamin/mineral (I like the GREEN VIBRANCE drink). If you need energy, pick up some L-ARGININE. This will help your body produce red blood cells, which will provide more blood and oxygen to your muscles (including the brain). Great before workout with electrolytes (a guy won a Nobel Prize on this). It will also help you build your cardio workouts, so they aren't as grueling. And also, Pick up powder form of MAGNESIUM that you can drink. Take that at night an hour or two before bed (around 500 mgs) and you will wake up refreshed and clear. *stimulants and poor diet deplete the body of magnesium, which is extremely important. AND LASTLY, but not least, get some Pink Himalayan Crystal salt. Take a tiny pinch (just throw in month and chase with water) whenever you feel nervous or stressed. It recovers the adrenal glands, which are the main reason to these side effects. Take in the morning right when you wake up, and you'll have more energy throughout the day. It's filled with over 80 different minerals.
This took me a very long time, and hours upon hours or research and asking questions (which the so called doctors could never answer). I think this would be the best advice anybody could offer you, coming from someone that not too long ago needed it most. I hope this benefits somebody and aids in getting them through the withdrawals and recovery from these terrible, so called 'medications.' YOU CAN WIN THIS! BEST OF LUCK!
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