I want to know if anyone knows for a fact that if i start coming down on my dose, will it help me lose weight and will the sweating stop??? I hope someone can help me. I want to join the gym but can't right now, cause it would be a waste of $$ If lowering my dose will help then that's what i'll do, then i'm thinking about going onto subutex then suboxone again. I hope someone knows what i'm going through and i hope someone can help.
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i like the reassurance that i won't be sick, and i wont go to jail while trying to score and never get well. i hate another addiction particularly one that has such few benefits, but i know i am blessed to even have the option. i feel for the 26 yr old dickhead cause i know how bad it can be being on a waitlist for something (spent over a yr jumping hoops to get in to a suboxone doc in a smaller town with a huge using population. however, empathy, like intelligence, was not that posters strong suit. i really am questioning whether being sober in and of itself (off h) is worth feeling this way physically or mentally.
my education is on hold again while i try to find a better balance of legal and other "supplements". unfortunately, putting recovery first is not my strong suit. had i done it in the past, i would only have so much less than i do now. i wouldn't have a b.a. or even a roof over my head, had i tried to.
i am kinda curious, anyone know examples of functional addicts who have maintained a career and a life. why them, the ones who can do it vs the vast majority of the population who cannot function after a point. the success rate of 12 step is no better than the rate of recovery in people in general. the ones who have huge habits and can just stop on their own and those who never get caught. they r the shining examples we need to learn from, not the ones that try and fail time and time again.
i hope this is helpful to at least someone considering either methadone maintenance or first tryin h. just don 't do either if u have any plans for your future, and don't take the warning lightly
"take a day off from using opiates for each one that u do use, constantly alternating. the first time u decide to use two days in arow may dictate every single day of your life after that."
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In the winter I fluxuate between 185-195 lbs, in the summer, 180-190 lbs. 195 is like the top end of the top end for weight gain for me, anything higher and something else is wrong. Something happened this month that has NEVER happened before. The scale I stepped on said 200 lbs. THAT woke me right up. The even weirder thing is that it never fluxuated. I was a steady 200 lbs for 3.5 weeks.
That got me on the internet and to you fine people and after reading 100 messages, patterns begin to emerge. The weight gained by all was "shocking". Everyone was a steady weight for the longest time until they took methadone and THEN they ballooned up. Another common denominator is how the weight was different than other weight like.....it was not fat. After reading all your posts and my own experiences, I came to the obvious conclusion that the methadone was causing water retention.
Diet and exercise have very little effect on water retention. People posted how they worked out more and changed their diet which in the past always worked and now did not. I'm here not only to reflect but to offer help. REAL help........read on.
Now I'm convinced it's water retention so I end up taking two of my father's Lasix which is a diueretic (makes you lose water and pee a lot). I made sure to take it very spaced out from my last methadone dose like, 18 hours. Not more than 35 minutes later I GOTTA pee and it's a strong stream pee that lasts a good 20 seconds. Right there I realize that I haven't pee'd that strong/long for quite some time. My pee was always like a little trickle. No one analyzes their pee until there is something wrong.
So I take my long pee, very happy and go lay down. 12 minutes later I GOTTA pee again and again it's an exact same type pee. Long and strong and in 1 hour I pee'd just like that 6 times. I pee'd more in that hour than I did the previous three days. The next 6 hours are just like this with each hour maybe having one less pee turn then the prior. Took the dose at 5 pm and this stayed constant for 6 hours. Couldn't sleep but still was getting up once an hour after midnight. Here are the numbers.
When I woke up that Monday morning (actually two days ago from the day of this post) I weight 203.4 lbs. When I weighed myself the following morning I weighed 197.2. YES.....that means I pissed out over 6 lbs of fluids. THIS almost took me down to where I should be at 195. I think I got a little more to go so I am going to repeat the procedure tomorrow, Thursday. Same as I did on Monday and I will report back with any results.
This forum truly helped me out and convinced me about my water retention theory. I hope MY post will help other out there and convince them this water retention theory is the real deal. If you are like me and are catching this in the early phase, a dose of Lasix or some other pharm grade dieuretic will definitely help. For those that are like 40 lbs of water retained, probably a once a week type procedure would be best for you. Pee out 6 lbs once a week and for those that are saying it's only water weight and he'll get it all back with a few glasses of water, I ate and drank regular all day Monday.....I didn't withhold anything. The results........
I really felt the results on Tuesday, the day after my Lasix procedure (sounds funny, eh??? Like the eye surgery). It's like when you get fat slowly....you don't realize it until you hit a breaking point. Someone asks you if you're pregnant, your buddys make fun of you. Pants don't fit. Never realized how bad my body was getting. Tuesday I was getting erections like I used to, I roll with a mouth full of saliva I can't remember ever having before due to excessive dry mouth. I thought I was gonna start drooling like the dogs in the Westminister Dog Show!!! My pee's were normal it was like my body got rebooted. Like it's back online now which had me thinking if my saliva glands were under perfoming, my penis was under performing, my bladder was under performing it's safe to assume other bodily processes were under performing like my metabolism!!!! Let's speculate.....
We have all this info now so here is my speculation and I would enjoy reading yours. From what I have read, methadone parks itself in our livers and it parks itself there for days. We take them everyday, all day so it's piling up slowly and I believe so much so that water has no where to go. Can't live without your liver but all it's all just fat and water. I think the body is reacting to the methadone piling up in one's liver and creating a water retention area for survival. Normally we drink water, our bodies absorb it and send it everywhere and use it as it's needed. Like gas is to a car, water is to the human body but with the pile up of methadone the body goes into this water retention mode, diverting directly into it!! I always had super dry mouth and barely had anything to pee out of my bladder why???? Cause all the water I was drinking was being diverted into this water retention area or areas around my body due to the methadone pile up.
It's all just speculation but the facts speak for themselves. Would love to hear from others that do something similar, doesn't have to be lasix just any pharm grade dieuretic. I'd bet someone in your family or one of your friends (or one of your friend's family) would have a dieuretic right now just sitting in their medicine cabinet. Like I said, space it out as much as you can but give it a shot and if you do, don't do it on a work day or any day you won't be around a toilet!!!
I truly hope this info helps others, especially the ones here on this forum that have definitely helped me. Take care.
Anxiously Awaiting Your Replies,
JBRONCFAN
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Quote:I was working as a Registered Nurse and one of my patients fell out of his wheelchair ending up flat on his back. It was lunchtime, so the only person I could find was the girl I was going to lunch with. We picked him up and put him back.That said, I ended up in excruciating pain due to a herniated disc which happened when the pt. was in mid air.Somehow I didn't drop him and make matters even worse. Anyway , this happened when I was 39yrs. old. After many surgeries, I live my life in constant pain, I've gained a huge amt. of weight, which I blame on the methadone 40mg. every 6 hrs. That's 160mg. per day. I don't know how to explain it, but it's a different type of fat than when I gained weight before, like from pregnancies.If anyone else has this problem and their self esteem is just about gone. I'd love to hear your story.
(the lifting accident happened 15yrs. ago, The trips to Drs. never stop.)
hey my name is robin you and have pretty simular stories i would like to talk to you if you could email i would like to ask some question but perferre to talk by email thanks
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I was in a coma and when I woke had severe headaches to go with my Brain Injury and was placed on a very high dose of methadone for pain Like 250mg a day I was also put on, fentanyl and Dilaudid. I was always slim and just like everyone else I put on 76 lbs in 4 months I have stuggled with it for 8 years now i have high BP, had a stroke, went into renal failure, and had my gull bladder removed. I hate to leave the house because of my weight and I am just so depressed to top it off I have no stamina. I am now down to 10mg of methadone and no others and I am still not loosing could my metabolism be messed up thanks Kim
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