I have been using Oxy (Perc 5s) and it is a miracle cure. I am, of course, very scared of being addicted. Consequently, I try to take 1 dose every other day. But I have to say, after trying everything, it works perfect for me. I used to self-medicate via beer and wine, every night. Now, my alcohol intake is way down.
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First of all you need to be evaluated by a psychologist to determine the root of your problem. I am an anxiety sufferer, and when I let it get out of control I isolate myself and become depressed. I've nearly overcome the problem using a combo of talk therapy (very effective in treating anxiety), and medication. Lexapro has been effective in helping to calm me in general so that I can apply the lessons learned in therapy. I don't use Xanax; I use Ativan. They are similar meds. You should only take them when you are having trouble controlling anxiety/panic. Usually, this would occur when you are going into a situation where your anxiety peaks - like being in a large group. Now, a word about the oxycodone - yes it helps anxiety, but it was actually prescribed to me because of legitimate physical pain. Some people find it very addictive. However, evryone's body is different and I actually found the Ativan to be much more addictive. When my body starts acclimating too much to the Ativan I'll use the oxycodone for a few days, and then switch back. I doubt my doctor would approve, but I don't find the oxy to nearly as addictive for me. Since I know my body better than anyone, I just do this without really talking to my doctor about it. There is an extreme amount of fear among doctors regarding oxycodone right now because the media has really highlighted it's addictiveness, but Ativan and Xanax are addictive too, and you don't hear nearly as much about it. Good luck to you!
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Well of course oxicodone will give the "feeling" of relief for anxiety and depression, but not for long term as it is used for helping relieve pain symptoms. When your'e pain is gone, the fact that you're feeling better is what appears to be relieving the anxiety. Pain alone can cause you to feel anxious. and continuous ongoing pain can lead to depression. I have been on this for over 5 years due to continuous ongoing pain, and it does not relieve my anxiety anymore because i'm immune to the it and the pain symptoms are coming back more frequently, thus, so is the anxiety. As long as I continue to take it and it helps with any of the pain symptoms, then yes I will feel less anxious due to the relief, But oxicodone is a very addictive drug and can lead to a build up of immunity. So if you're talking it for long term I would defiantly advise against it, and to use it as an anti-anxiety med alone or anti-depressant without pain symptoms, then as was stated above. It is only the euphoric reaction that seems to give you the relief of those two symptoms. And it will not last as you become more and more addicted to it.
I am seriously considering getting off of it because I am now beginning to feel the withdrawl symptoms after 6 hours of going without it, and Im now concerned about the addiction part. I am like most people, very afraid of anti-anxiety and anti-depressants as well for long term use, and from what I heard the oxicodone is less likely to cause any physical problems other than the worst of them which id addiction, but there are also meds to help get you through the withdrawal symptoms, so I will talk to my dr this week about that and coming off of the ocicodone. I just don't know what i'm going to do about the ongoing chronic pain issues afterwards, as i feel pretty sure they will come back even after I get off the oxicodone.
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I love how all these people say "of course you feel good they are a narcotic" or "of course you feel good they cause euphoria". None of you jerk offs offered a medical explanation. Here is my medical explanation as to why oxycodone DOES help with depression.
Oxycodone's chemical makeup is near identical to ENDORPHINS, which are a natural opiate inside the human body. Ever worked out really good and after felt you were high or extremely euphoric? The high you get from exercising is actually because the body is releasing endorphins and then in turn dopamine and other neurotransmitters are released to mitigate the muscle pain from the strain you have put on them. When a person takes Oxycodone the brain uses it similar to how it uses endorphins since it is chemically near identical and gives you that same euphoria and relief of pain that you feel after working out or doing something that gets your adrenaline going.
There is a new syndrome which is getting more and more attention and it is called Endorphin Deficiency Syndrome. Of course, most mainstream doctors and psychiatrists still believe seretonin is the true cause of depression and anxiety. Well, it is in some or many scenarios, but not all. If you go to a doctor they will just prescribe you an SSRI, SNRI or other anti-depressent that focuses mainly on seretonin or norepinephrine. Some people actually have a deficiency of endorphin production in their body. This of course is not an FDA acknowledged syndrome, because all of the research is relatively new and has many more clinical trials to actually prove it. However, there are actual trials which highly support this EDS (Endorphin Deficiency Syndrome) theory.
Why is Oxycodone addicting? Well the opiate receptors in your body will get used to this un-natural surge of endorphins and come to expect them aka they get excited. As well, your body will start to produce less endorphins because it thinks you have enough from the oxycodone surge. Ever gone through opiate withdrawal and felt the severe depression along with severe body aching? Endorphins are typically released when you have aches and pains, but unfortunately you have tricked your brain into thinking you have enough endorphins and will receive that large amount of endorphins to soothe your aches and pains. Well how does that explain the severe stomach pains from withdrawals? Simple, your stomach has opiate receptors as well and they too are wanting more. Most addicts know that Loperamide (Imodium) helps significantly with the stomach pains during withdrawal. Well, Loperamide is actually a very strong opiate that does NOT cross the blood brain barrier. So, when you take Loperamide it is an opiate so the opiate receptors in your stomach get a fix and hence releives some of the pain, but you do not get high or euphoric. I've read that a few people have taken a very large amount of it and had some cross the barrier and got a little euphoria out of it although i highly suggest you NOT do this.
So, this means your answer to everything is to take oxycodone right? Wrong, the reason it is a bad idea is because of the addiction. Because it is tricking your body into thinking you have enough endorphins. Therefore, it actually makes you far worse off in the end. The true fix for people with an Endorphin Deficiency is finding ways to promote endorphin production. One prescription drug out there is known as Naltrexone and is an opiate receoptor antagonist that blocks the receoptors from receiving opiates. However, in very small doses it is more therapeutic and blocks the production of endorphins slightly so the brain thinks it needs to produce more. This low dose is called LDN or Low Dose Naltrexone. It actually is being studied due to many people having great success treating MS, HIV, cancer, autism and other autoimmune diseases. When the drug wears off you now have a larger amount of endorphins. Keep doing this then your body begins to create a more natural pool of endorphins. As well, DL-Phenylalaine (DLPA) is an OTC amino acid that actually slows the enzymes that breakdown endorphins so they stay in your body longer. This will actually aid the LDN. Other popular methods include acupuncture as well as the anti-depressent Effexor. Effexor has not had near the success of others, but since it is the only quasi-opiod antidepressent and has similarities to tramadol (a weaker pain killer) it has had some success helping people with low endorphin levels.
Do I believe oxycodone relieves anxiety, depression and even stomach issues related to IBS and Crohn's disease? YES, however, it is merely a short term bandaid that will only make the problem worse than it will fix it. I too have dealt with the endless dr appointments and endless anti-depressents that don't do anything. I started taking DL-Phenylalanine by itself and actually have seen improvements. I don't recommend doing any of this without speaking to a medical professional though. Just be sure that you have an open minded medical professional who believes in more than what the drug companies push him/her to sell. I encourage you to read up on how endorphins work, oxycodone works, EDS, DL-Phenylalanine and LDN.
Now, if you don't believe me or think anything i said is false. Please, do not just give a short "you are wrong" or "you are stupid" answer. Actually articulate your thought and give me medical explenations to back it up. Hope this helps some of you out.
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I am a 56 year old male. I have been severely depressed since I was a child. I have tried 37 different medications, some augmented by others, 15 years of psychotherapy, electroconvulsive shock therapy, meditation, and praying. The end result was the recent detainment in a psych ward with still no help. I mistakenly told them I had been rehearsing my suicide for the last 18 months. Should learn to shut up. One of the doctors asked if I had ever taken a narcotic pain killer. I did when I had a tonsillectomy at 52. He asked how it felt. I said I did not feel euphoric, hyped up, or unusually good. I felt normal: positive, had energy, problems became challenges, etc. I told him that the Percocet did more for me than any antidepressant or mood stabilizer and of course, the shock treatment which has left me ****ed up. He said he could not help me but to pursue this line of discussion with someone. How do I go about finding a psychiatrist who's judgement has not been tainted by the infectious, cultural distain for opiates? I'm still suicidally depressed; essentially a dead man walking.
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Check this out. Many people have mold, lyme, benzine toxicity which causes excess excitatory neurotransmitters like glutamate and PEA. Benzo's and opiates actually reduce the anxiety, difficulty concentration and anxiety/dep because they reduce neuro excitory issues and this is why many people who take opiates for pain in the beginning find that it helps their other mental problems and eventually become addicted. They are not using to get high, rather, they use it because it helps their brains feel and be more "normal" considering the state they are in due to extreme toxicity.
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jfm: I feel your pain. I've been suffering from depression for about 5 years now, and if I were to multiply that by the years you've been suffering... I don't want to go there...
I went through a number of SSRIs, NRIs, Wellbutrins, Tricyclics and such, nothing helped. Last year after surgery I discovered that percocet was helping me with my depression. It was a life changer. Now I am on a small dose of oxycodone and my life doesn't suck that bad anymore. One important thing is to realize, that this is not a permanent solution, the effects diminish over time and in a year or two I will need to go off of it. Hopefully by then I'll deal with my emotional problems.
But to the point: NO doctor will prescribe you opiates or anything like this without him seeing nothing else works. Jmf: from what you're saying you should have everything well documented: meds you've been taking, therapies you went through, whatever, give it to your doctor. Sign any freaking release so he/she can get the info directly from your previous doctors/hospitals. Explain how opiates worked on you. Be absolutely honest. Remember that you're talking to a professional, which can easily figure a person out, if he/she is lying. They deal with addicts all the time, and addicts lie and they are good at that. A good doctor will sense the difference. His/her primary goal is to help you. If getting you the meds that work is a way to help you, you'll get it.
And for all you, that think I just want to get high: if you don't understand living a life with no hope for any future, with every day suffering, with no energy to get help, just at least accept it and don't criticize, it will only derail those who really need help, addicts with their clear agenda will ignore you. And if you want to criticize me or my post, feel free to do so, I don't give rat's butt, I'm not coming back to this forum, as I am too afraid of being judged (which I will discuss on my next psychobabble therapy). I'll just keep my hope that maybe I have helped someone.
I went through a number of SSRIs, NRIs, Wellbutrins, Tricyclics and such, nothing helped. Last year after surgery I discovered that percocet was helping me with my depression. It was a life changer. Now I am on a small dose of oxycodone and my life doesn't suck that bad anymore. One important thing is to realize, that this is not a permanent solution, the effects diminish over time and in a year or two I will need to go off of it. Hopefully by then I'll deal with my emotional problems.
But to the point: NO doctor will prescribe you opiates or anything like this without him seeing nothing else works. Jmf: from what you're saying you should have everything well documented: meds you've been taking, therapies you went through, whatever, give it to your doctor. Sign any freaking release so he/she can get the info directly from your previous doctors/hospitals. Explain how opiates worked on you. Be absolutely honest. Remember that you're talking to a professional, which can easily figure a person out, if he/she is lying. They deal with addicts all the time, and addicts lie and they are good at that. A good doctor will sense the difference. His/her primary goal is to help you. If getting you the meds that work is a way to help you, you'll get it.
And for all you, that think I just want to get high: if you don't understand living a life with no hope for any future, with every day suffering, with no energy to get help, just at least accept it and don't criticize, it will only derail those who really need help, addicts with their clear agenda will ignore you. And if you want to criticize me or my post, feel free to do so, I don't give rat's butt, I'm not coming back to this forum, as I am too afraid of being judged (which I will discuss on my next psychobabble therapy). I'll just keep my hope that maybe I have helped someone.
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I have had Chronic pain for over 20 years... I have taken several of the non narcotic medicines, the psych meds used to treat nerve pain, and I get injections regularly. I have degenerative disk disease, fibro myalgia, ridiculopathy, foraminal stenosis, raynauds and blah blah as I say because whenever they test something they find something new and I am like that's nice something else to remember. Anyway... I took Morphine for over a year, then Vicodin 5 then to 10mg then percocet5 and now percocet 10... I also have depression from these injuries sucking the life out of me, and I have always suffered from anxiety. The problem is..... The government is all over the Dr's about these drugs.. anyone who has never suffered moderate to severe chronic pain has NO CLUE !!
There are times I just want to die .. laying there in awful pain! I HAVE to be able to function... without my meds I can not go down the stairs to the bathroom without crying or falling. The people that have ABUSED these drugs because they want a buzz PISS ME OFF! I have a newsflash for the person who posted about the addiction... I have NEVER in many years EVER exceeded what I was told to take by a Dr , as a matter of fact.. on many a day I take less ... I do not use my pain meds to attempt to live without any pain ... that is unrealistic.. I take them when I can no longer tolerate the pain. The percocet do give you a mood boost... but do NOT stop anxiety.
There are times I just want to die .. laying there in awful pain! I HAVE to be able to function... without my meds I can not go down the stairs to the bathroom without crying or falling. The people that have ABUSED these drugs because they want a buzz PISS ME OFF! I have a newsflash for the person who posted about the addiction... I have NEVER in many years EVER exceeded what I was told to take by a Dr , as a matter of fact.. on many a day I take less ... I do not use my pain meds to attempt to live without any pain ... that is unrealistic.. I take them when I can no longer tolerate the pain. The percocet do give you a mood boost... but do NOT stop anxiety.
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i HAVE BEEN ON PERCOCET 10 MG FOR 5 YEARS. i HAVEN'T HAD A PROBLEM WITH HEROIN OR JUST A FEW MONTHS LATER HAVING TO GO TO 80 MG AND IT RUINING MY LIFE. tHE TOLERANCE BUILDUP DOESN'T GET THAT BAD IN JUST A FEW MONTHS. i DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPNED TO U TO HAVE TO GO TO HEROIN
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My panic attacks came outta nowhere, it sent me to the hospital three times in a week. my heart would pound, a sharp pain will come on my left side of my chest, my body would tingle, and my head would feel light. doctors only tell me that its anxiety and i was having a panic attack but they gave me two valums and i felt better, this morning i had that same feeling out the blue, so i asked my grandmother for one of her oxi and im actually starting to feel better, this is my first time so hopefully i wont turn out bad
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I have a prescription for 10 pills, 5-325 mg if that makes sense. I'm on the 5th pill. It's really helped my depression. Do you think I'm in danger of being addicted? I am Kind of scared at how well it's helped my anxiety.
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That is exactly How I feel for the first lets say six months maybe a year, you will fell like pain killers actually help you, until they make your life miserable, and your depression gets worst, who wants to live depending on some pills to get you thru
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I've takien it for 5 years and am on 10 mg 3x a day. I don't have to go up to 80 mg or heroin. I have chronic pain and a cyst on my spinal chord. I have 3 herniated disks, there must be more to this story because i don't need 80 mg or heroin.
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