I'm so thankful to find these posts -- I had a bitter taste in my mouth all day yesterday and was surprised when I woke up this morning and it was just as strong. I thought it was some fruit I'd eaten, but after reading these posts, I realize it was the pine nuts I used in a salad 4 days ago. I bought the pine nuts from a community store, so don't have packaging to know where they are from, but I wanted to write a note and add that the taste is definitely worse anytime I eat fruit or yogurt (or kefir). Can't wait for this to go away!
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Another victim of Pine nuts in Netherlands,
I was horrified & scared for past 2 days, as being an R&D Engineer by profession, for past few weeks working with some solvents & adhesives under very tightly controlled environment & almost no chance of contamination (more over they are not so hazardous).
Since last 2 days started having very bitter taste in mouth. Started looking for the reasons and contamination and reaction possibility, went through Material Safety data sheets, but nothing was there on Bitter taste in mouth.
Then came online for finding some logical reason & Thanks for this web Site, now I know its my Food, that's not Controlled properly by Government Agencies, that is actually creating the problem.
3 days back went out for dinner, that included salad with Pine nuts, well I was munching them happily then, now struggling to even drink coffee, as it tastes even bitter, forget about eating its horrible taste.
I haven't had any problem like it in past 30 years, I had few times years ago back in India but never had any problem like this & in past 1.5 year since in Netherlands, its first time I had pine nuts & I guess Last time.
Thanks to this Forum, now will go & inform the Restaurant, about this & try to find the country of Origin ....
For some People this might also be helpful :
[/url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_nut#cite_note-5[/url]
[/url]http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C23003.html[/url]
I hope this taste goes away soon.[/url]
I was horrified & scared for past 2 days, as being an R&D Engineer by profession, for past few weeks working with some solvents & adhesives under very tightly controlled environment & almost no chance of contamination (more over they are not so hazardous).
Since last 2 days started having very bitter taste in mouth. Started looking for the reasons and contamination and reaction possibility, went through Material Safety data sheets, but nothing was there on Bitter taste in mouth.
Then came online for finding some logical reason & Thanks for this web Site, now I know its my Food, that's not Controlled properly by Government Agencies, that is actually creating the problem.
3 days back went out for dinner, that included salad with Pine nuts, well I was munching them happily then, now struggling to even drink coffee, as it tastes even bitter, forget about eating its horrible taste.
I haven't had any problem like it in past 30 years, I had few times years ago back in India but never had any problem like this & in past 1.5 year since in Netherlands, its first time I had pine nuts & I guess Last time.
Thanks to this Forum, now will go & inform the Restaurant, about this & try to find the country of Origin ....
For some People this might also be helpful :
[/url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_nut#cite_note-5[/url]
[/url]http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C23003.html[/url]
I hope this taste goes away soon.[/url]
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Another victim of Pine nuts in Netherlands,
I was horrified & scared for past 2 days, as being an R&D Engineer by profession, for past few weeks working with some solvents & adhesives under very tightly controlled environment & almost no chance of contamination (more over they are not so hazardous).
Since last 2 days started having very bitter taste in mouth. Started looking for the reasons and contamination and reaction possibility, went through Material Safety data sheets, but nothing was there on Bitter taste in mouth.
Then came online for finding some logical reason & Thanks for this web Site, now I know its my Food, that's not Controlled properly by Government Agencies, that is actually creating the problem.
3 days back went out for dinner, that included salad with Pine nuts, well I was munching them happily then, now struggling to even drink coffee, as it tastes even bitter, forget about eating its horrible taste.
I haven't had any problem like this in past 30 years, I had pine nuts few times, years ago back in India but never had any problem like this & in past 1.5 year since in Netherlands, its first time I had pine nuts & I guess Last time.
Thanks to this Forum, now will go & inform the Restaurant, about this & try to find the country of Origin for pine nuts there and try to update ....
For some People this might also be helpful :
[/url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_nut#cite_note-5[/url]
[/url]http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C23003.html[/url]
I hope this taste goes away soon.
I was horrified & scared for past 2 days, as being an R&D Engineer by profession, for past few weeks working with some solvents & adhesives under very tightly controlled environment & almost no chance of contamination (more over they are not so hazardous).
Since last 2 days started having very bitter taste in mouth. Started looking for the reasons and contamination and reaction possibility, went through Material Safety data sheets, but nothing was there on Bitter taste in mouth.
Then came online for finding some logical reason & Thanks for this web Site, now I know its my Food, that's not Controlled properly by Government Agencies, that is actually creating the problem.
3 days back went out for dinner, that included salad with Pine nuts, well I was munching them happily then, now struggling to even drink coffee, as it tastes even bitter, forget about eating its horrible taste.
I haven't had any problem like this in past 30 years, I had pine nuts few times, years ago back in India but never had any problem like this & in past 1.5 year since in Netherlands, its first time I had pine nuts & I guess Last time.
Thanks to this Forum, now will go & inform the Restaurant, about this & try to find the country of Origin for pine nuts there and try to update ....
For some People this might also be helpful :
[/url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_nut#cite_note-5[/url]
[/url]http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C23003.html[/url]
I hope this taste goes away soon.
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thank god I found this sight!!! I went on a cruise recently and towards the end I started geting that bitter taste in my mouth no matter what I consumed even water. I had drank alot so the first thing I thought was that my liver was going bad, Now I realize it must have been the pine nuts that I ate a few days before the end of the cruise. It would be cool to figure out why this is happening, maybe it's like the asparagas thing and urine and only a some people are effected.
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I posted back in July. The symptoms lasted about 2 weeks for me. I was really scared to try pine nuts again, but couldn't resist the basil in my garden this summer, and just had to have pesto. I purchased a nice bag of pine nuts from Trader Joe's (which had a country of origin listed, but I can't remember where they were from- not China!) and made the pesto. This time I ate only the toasted pine nuts, and everything was fine. I have had them several times since then (always toasted). I have had no repeat experience regarding the taste disorder. I urge you to enjoy your pine nuts, just be very careful of the source.
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
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Folks, eat pine nuts again at your own risk. I got the taste disorder from eating toasted Trader Joes pine nuts. The country of origin listed on the label was "Korea, Russia or Vietnam." No one else in my family was affected. I had previously eaten pine nuts from many sources, toasted and raw, on many occasions, with no ill effects.
If you read over the posts in this thread you will observe that many people extrapolate the truth based on their own personal experiences. Some people got the bitter taste from raw pine nuts so they think it's the rawness that caused the problem. Others got the problem from toasted pine nuts so they think it's because they were toasted. People who ate Chinese ones think the problem is limited to Chinese pine nuts whereas people whose pine nuts came from somewhere other than China, don't. The only common factor in all these stories is the pine nuts.
Our own personal experiences are anecdotally useful but they do not substitute for scientific research, with controlled variables, that will finally get to the bottom of what's going on here. Personally, I'm not going to touch the things again -- raw or toasted -- Chinese or not -- until someone finds out what the problem is. Too bad, they are tasty.
If you read over the posts in this thread you will observe that many people extrapolate the truth based on their own personal experiences. Some people got the bitter taste from raw pine nuts so they think it's the rawness that caused the problem. Others got the problem from toasted pine nuts so they think it's because they were toasted. People who ate Chinese ones think the problem is limited to Chinese pine nuts whereas people whose pine nuts came from somewhere other than China, don't. The only common factor in all these stories is the pine nuts.
Our own personal experiences are anecdotally useful but they do not substitute for scientific research, with controlled variables, that will finally get to the bottom of what's going on here. Personally, I'm not going to touch the things again -- raw or toasted -- Chinese or not -- until someone finds out what the problem is. Too bad, they are tasty.
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What can they do if they don't pose a health risk? And at this point,there is no proof they do. I'm from MA,but I'm just not going to eat pine nuts anymore. No need to start a revolution over it! :P
-Bob
-Bob
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Thank goodness I found this site. I've been looking for two days and was on the verge of going to the doctor. I've had these symptoms too for four days now and it's horrid. I too have had pinenuts in the last week and the bitter taste started after two days. Lets hope the FSA does something about this soon as it's obvious there is hundreds of people suffering with the same symptoms. The taste gets worse after sweet things, but everything just tastes foul. xx
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Hello from Australia. Same problem for me, into my 5th day of bitterness. My pine nuts were from China, but also had been open for quite sometime and I reckon I blame that. I eat pesto quite often with Pine Nuts from the same supermarket. I have never really taken much notice of the source or brand until now but imagine I always buy the same sort. Never had a problem till now. No one else in the family effected.
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Just to let you all know, after 7 days the bitter taste has gone. Finally I can enjoy food again. So you will get back to normal. I'll never touch another pine nut again. :-D
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I'm glad I've looked at this site, because I was panicking about the taste in my mouth thinking I've got some serious disease or something. Literally whilst writing, I'm cooking a pizza which I had just sprinkled with pine nuts (from Tesco, imported from China). I've now got the tedious task of removing them all.
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Being Italian I've eaten pine nuts (pignoli) for years. I love pignoli cookies and I often make pesto which contains pignoli nuts. So I usually have a bag of pine nuts in my refrigerator. I often will just eat a handful. I had never experienced a bitter taste in my mouth until six weeks ago. When I did a google search to try and find out what it could be I found this site. The bitter taste did start a day or two after I had eaten pine nuts but since this had never happened to me before I was skeptical. The bitter taste lasted a about two and a half weeks. A couple of days ago, weeks after the bitter taste had subsided, I had a handful of pine nuts from the same bag. The bitter taste is back! I now know for certain that it is these pine nuts that caused it. But why in 40+ years of eating pine nuts is this happening now. Could it be that this bag of pine nuts that I bought in BJ's came from CHINA? I know that most of the pine nut I've consumed used to come from Italy but in the past 10 years or so I've purchased some at Asaian or Korean markets here in NYC. However this is the first time that I have experienced this bitter taste and these pine nuts come from China!!!!!! Is there some toxic chemical in the soil where they're growing these? Have they put some sort of chemical preservative on them?
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I started looking on the internet a few days ago to find out why suddenly everything I eat leaves a horrible aftertaste and was amazed like everyone else that I had eaten a handful of Pine Nuts within the last five days. I paid no attention to where they came from and already discarded the bag.
I am saddened since Holiday meals will be here this week and I may not be able to enjoy them or be able to tell if I made a nice tasting dish. Oh well at least it goes away and like some of you I will not eat them in any form again.
I am saddened since Holiday meals will be here this week and I may not be able to enjoy them or be able to tell if I made a nice tasting dish. Oh well at least it goes away and like some of you I will not eat them in any form again.
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I have been experiencing this bitter taste for a week and I was really worried. Thank good all of you posted these messages, I now know what caused it. The pine nuts. I had a lot of the a week before and now I am suffering the consecuencies. Be careful with peanuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bought them at Target in North Raleigh. Don't buy them!!!!
Lilian, North Carolina
I bought them at Target in North Raleigh. Don't buy them!!!!
Lilian, North Carolina
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I woke up today (01/02/2009) with this horrible bitter taste upon eating breakfast. Thought I was going crazy all day as the taste wouldn't go away no matter what I ate. Then I googled my symptoms. Sure enough, I consumed pine nuts in a home-made hummus dip on New Years Eve. The pine nuts used were purchased from a Trader Joes here in Los Angeles. The bag was brand new and the nuts are "best by Dec 09." They are the raw variety and marked "product of Korea, Russia or Vietnam." Unless Trader Joes is lying regarding origin, this is definitely not exclusive to nuts from China. I have eaten pine nuts all my life and this is the first time I've experienced anything like this. I will agree with a previous poster and state that from all the research I've done tonight, it actually doesn't seem to matter where they've come from or whether they were raw or toasted, as people have reported symptoms after consuming numerous different brands of pine nuts, both raw and toasted, originating from China and not. I for one love pine nuts, but can easily say I will never eat them again. The risk is not worth it. This taste is terrible and it's only been a day. I noticed two other people who reported purchasing their nuts from TJ's. I'm going back to the store with rest of my bag as this is bizarre and worrisome. If anyone else has purchased from TJ's and experienced these symptoms, I encourage you to follow up on this message board. Thanks.
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