I've been on suboxone for 1 year, dreading quiting.
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i am 21 and have been getting saboxin for the past 10 mos to kick a 3 year heroin habit.Let me tell you in my opinion the is just as hard to kick as the heroin! only difference is a little cheaper and lasts longer for me anyways. i need my dose the second i wake up, i mean that second, if not body aches. specially stomach, watery eyes to the point i cant even see the tv, cant eat, cant concentrate. it is the worst thing i could have ever gotten involved with. im beginning to think the only way to get off is to get back on the dope and do it the right way-just take it 3 days or so. are there any other options or are we all forced to resort to old ways or suffer? gee what great options
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ive took up to 16 mg a day of suboxone since aug of 06...i finally realized
that sh*t was getting me no where. i was at the mercy of my money hungry doctor.... i finally decided that i was to good for that sh*t and my life and self respect was to important to trade for those pills anymore...i tapered my own dosage for about 2 months with out telling my doctor.. and as of last thursday morning(today is tuesday) i have been suboxone free.. the first 48 hrs was hell to get through but i tried to look at the light of the end of the tunnel... everytime i wanted to go get me one i would think about all the money i spend on these things( doctors visit is 200 monthly not counting the prescript...) i would think about my family and all the people that i have let down ect...(these things deaden pain and they also deaden ur emotions) so be ready to deal with em when u are free from the suboxone... every day i feel better and i feel like doing things that i did not feel like doing the day before.. im going to my monthly appointment even though im suboxone free... why waist 200 dollars u ask? this month when i go in im going to tell him he can take his medicine and do whatever with it and he isnt taking my money anymore..im ready to be in control of my life again.
that sh*t was getting me no where. i was at the mercy of my money hungry doctor.... i finally decided that i was to good for that sh*t and my life and self respect was to important to trade for those pills anymore...i tapered my own dosage for about 2 months with out telling my doctor.. and as of last thursday morning(today is tuesday) i have been suboxone free.. the first 48 hrs was hell to get through but i tried to look at the light of the end of the tunnel... everytime i wanted to go get me one i would think about all the money i spend on these things( doctors visit is 200 monthly not counting the prescript...) i would think about my family and all the people that i have let down ect...(these things deaden pain and they also deaden ur emotions) so be ready to deal with em when u are free from the suboxone... every day i feel better and i feel like doing things that i did not feel like doing the day before.. im going to my monthly appointment even though im suboxone free... why waist 200 dollars u ask? this month when i go in im going to tell him he can take his medicine and do whatever with it and he isnt taking my money anymore..im ready to be in control of my life again.
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I have been on suboxone since Dec. 2003. Suboxone saved my life. Before suboxone, my life was a living hell. I'd do anything not to get dope sick.
The doctor's have weaned me off 3 different times and the withdrawls are so bad I go back to using. I've even gone down 1mg per month and when I stopped it took 48hrs. for withdrawls to start-heart pounding, unable to eat,skin crawling, etc.
I want to be on suboxone the rest of my life. I have so much to lose. I think I finally found a doctor that will keep me on as long as I need.
Suboxone has been the biggest blessing as well as a nightmare in my life.
The doctor's have weaned me off 3 different times and the withdrawls are so bad I go back to using. I've even gone down 1mg per month and when I stopped it took 48hrs. for withdrawls to start-heart pounding, unable to eat,skin crawling, etc.
I want to be on suboxone the rest of my life. I have so much to lose. I think I finally found a doctor that will keep me on as long as I need.
Suboxone has been the biggest blessing as well as a nightmare in my life.
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Hi all. I'm brand new to this site. Its actually 5 am where I am and I can't sleep. I have been on Suboxone for 2 years, and before that was on Methadone for almost 3. And before that I was an IV herion user for 7 years. I have been trying to wean myself off of Suboxone, but can't seem to do it. I feel it is so difficult because I am the one to "dose" myself every morning. Its up to ME to continue my detox even if I feel crappy that morning. Ya know, to break that pill in half rather than just take the whole one. I as well wake up feeling ill and take it first thing. I'm currently taking about 3 mg. I feel that NA and AA meetings have been so helpful in helping me to stay clean- but just keep your mouth shut about the Suboxone thing, because not everyone UNDERSTANDS what it is, or is even open-minded. Anyhow, I am posting because right now I am so discouraged. Isn't there anyone out there that has sucsessfully weaned themselves off of Sub??? Without going back to narcotics? Please guys...I need a shot of hope about this whole thing.
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I have been on suboxone for about a month and have been doing great since I moved away from my triggers. I didnt have a problem cutting the full pill into smaller sizes. I wouldnt have ANY withdrawal symptoms when cutting the dose in half. Maybe thats because I havent been on it for too long. I have taken the suboxone before and didnt remember there being bad withdrawals. I finally got down to taking only one fourth of the suboxone and could even go a day without taking the pill but would have sneezes. Today would be my 5th day off the suboxone. I am STILL having sneezes and chills mostly at night. My back isnt hurting anymore. I was surprised at how long it takes this stuff to finally get out of your system. Sleep has been terrible ofcourse. The withdrawals from Heroin was MUCH worse than this but only last 3 days. This is my 5th day and I want to know when the hell I am going to feel better.
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I was reading alot about the withdrawals, stop scaring everyone on suboxone was on four a year and a half at 16 mils the last three months down to 4 then one month to 2 and jumped was sick for two weeks now feel great!!!
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Hi! I'm also very confused about the suboxone myself. Does it or does it not cause withdrawals? I recently went into a rehab for opiate use. There protocol was subutex (suboxone is the same medeicine but it also includes narcan so you can not overdose easily on them) for 5 days 2x/ day, than clonidine oraly 2x/day for 7 days. I only took the subutex for the first 5 days and than refused the clonidine. I was fine for 6 days and than I became violentlly ill and was sent to the hosp. for 2 days. There I was Dx'd with colitis. Was given some ativan for the muscle spasms and was feeling good. Two days later I was back in the ER with the same complaints. That time they did nothing so I called my husband and went home for further medical care. The MD at the hospital told me it was narcotic withdrawals. Well here's the thing, wasn't I suppose to have been detoxed already? Now 6 days later I was sick again so I took 4mg's of suboxone and than felt fine since than. What is going on?? Can somebody help?????
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I was on 25-30, 10 mg. hydro's per day. Periodically, up to 200 mg. oxy per day. Went to suboxone detox. Drug worked wonders. Unfortunately, doctors can only write 30 patients per year in their first year of prescribing, per DEA guidlines, and my detox doc had his 30 outpatients. He wrote me a takehome ( ambulatory ) script and set me up with another doctor. The script he wrote me left me 4 days short of my appt. I was taking 4 mg. X 3 times per day. I cut down mself to 2mg. X 3 times per day, or 6 mg. total. My new doc cancelled my appt. and so I just quit cold turkey, no further taper or weaning. Big mistake, the anxiety is horrible. I have contemplated just ending it all. This is worse than the hydro detox, not physically, but metally. The physiical part is no picnic either, sweating, loss of appetite, anxiety, pain, insomnia. If I didn't have 2 kids to take care of, I don't know what I would have done. This is day 3 cold turkey, I am just praying today gets better!
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Hello all. I discovered this site when trying to find out if other people have experienced w/drawls from suboxone. I have been on it for 11 months. I started at 8mg/day and weaned down by 1mg per month. Each time I lowered my dose, my body needed to adjust. I finally have been down to taking 1mg/day for the past couple of months, even stretching it to taking 1mg every other day. I figured the slower I weaned, the easier it would be at the end, with the hope that the w/drawls would be very very minimal. However, by the time day 2 comes I am in need of the sub. I will admit that it is not too bad but as any addict knows, we physically can feel even the slightest sign of w/drawl and to us it sucks. My doctor has been very supportive but is now saying that it is all psychological at this point and wants me to stop the program. I frickin' HATE when people say it is all in my head It isn't! Anyways...I wonder if I can ever be strong enough to kick this. I want to so badly but fear that I will never be able to get past this last hurdle. If anyone has any advice, please share. I am open for some suggestions, if there are any. Good luck to all that are going through this. I think there is a light at the end of this long journey. I sure hope so, anyway.
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I'm, too, currently down to 1 mg. Why not go to 3/4 of a mg. for 4-5 days? And then to 1/2? Do it slowly. It's taken me one year to taper down from 12 mgs. to 1 mg., but I'm okay. I don't like the side effects, but benedryl and advil can help. I don't have the craving problem - I took pain meds for pain, and the pain is gone. But I am going slow because the anxiety and depression during the withdrawal is very hard, but, from what I understand, unavoidable. The worst of the withdrawal is a bit like the flu, though it varies from person to person. It isn't anything like the spiral down effects of addiction, though because there is an end. But....
bottom line: There is no quick fix. Go slowly.
Hope this helps.
bottom line: There is no quick fix. Go slowly.
Hope this helps.
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Yes, suboxone causes withdrawals. It sounds like you had the same experience in the rehab many have. You weren't "finished." Withdrawing from opiates can take a long time, and many rehab facilities take advantage of the "fast in and fast out." I fought my 10 day stay at a rehab and got 1/2 the money back. You need to be on a long term suboxone program. You will feel much better. At suboxone.com there are MD's in your area who can prescribe and work with you. They can also help you with meds for sleep, etc. (non-addictive). Don't give up. I hope this helps.
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hmmm let's see i guess everybody writes how they came to be first?
well i used to smoke a lot of pot and then i was introduced to Oxy's and would do a 40mg a day. after about 6 weeks of recreational use i started using heroin. that went on for about a year... i tried to cold turkey and that never worked so i started the suboxone method. i tapered off in 21 days from doing 8 mg to like 1 mg... the last day i used suboxone i did like .50mg and went a couple of days without it before that day. it's now the start of day 4 without it and i don't feel THAT bad. i am just curious to know how long this fatigue and insomnia and no appetite thing is going to last... at night i also have heart racing problems. is this normal??? when i am done withdrawing, will i feel as good as i do as when i am on sub? if this is how i'm going to feel the rest of my life it isn't worth it no? i need some feedback please. i've never gotten help from anybody and my suboxone doctor don't know anything about withdrawal (since he prescribed me 24 mg a day) i thought that was ludacrous!
well i used to smoke a lot of pot and then i was introduced to Oxy's and would do a 40mg a day. after about 6 weeks of recreational use i started using heroin. that went on for about a year... i tried to cold turkey and that never worked so i started the suboxone method. i tapered off in 21 days from doing 8 mg to like 1 mg... the last day i used suboxone i did like .50mg and went a couple of days without it before that day. it's now the start of day 4 without it and i don't feel THAT bad. i am just curious to know how long this fatigue and insomnia and no appetite thing is going to last... at night i also have heart racing problems. is this normal??? when i am done withdrawing, will i feel as good as i do as when i am on sub? if this is how i'm going to feel the rest of my life it isn't worth it no? i need some feedback please. i've never gotten help from anybody and my suboxone doctor don't know anything about withdrawal (since he prescribed me 24 mg a day) i thought that was ludacrous!
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Yes, the heart racing is a definite side effect. It's been suggested to me to try Benadryl - that can help with side effects. Withdrawal symptoms can last one to two to three weeks, though they should lessen as time goes on. You went from 8 mgs. to 1 mg. so fast! WOW. I'm not sure why, nor am I sure if that affects the withdrawal process. Does your doctor know you did it this fast, and why doesn't he/she know about withdrawal? I question the safety...
Your other question is harder to answer: Will you feel as good as you do when you're on suboxone? I think you might mean free of symptoms: "normal." As far as I understand it (and I hope somebody jumps in here to explain more of the chemistry), of course you will. The symptoms WILL go away. The suboxone doesn't create a "high." It blocks the receptor so that you can't get high. (Correct?) In a week or so you should feel all of your own emotions again. The trick is to manage and deal with them (instead of covering them up with drugs). I am confused why, during your suboxone "treatment," you weren't helped with this part. You need support along with the suboxone to understand this. Maybe you already do - I apologize if I am offending you.
Anyway: I am concerned that you've done this so fast and against your dcotor's prescribed orders. It's not that I think all doctors know all the answers, but suboxone can be tricky. Fast or slow, suboxone works, but you need support through it. The way you've rapidly gone down might lead you to get frustrated because your withdrawal symptoms might be prolonged and more harsh leading to relapse. Be safe. If you feel bad (beyond the normal flu-like symptoms), contact your doctor ASAP. You're on the right road - suboxone works - just be safe...
Your other question is harder to answer: Will you feel as good as you do when you're on suboxone? I think you might mean free of symptoms: "normal." As far as I understand it (and I hope somebody jumps in here to explain more of the chemistry), of course you will. The symptoms WILL go away. The suboxone doesn't create a "high." It blocks the receptor so that you can't get high. (Correct?) In a week or so you should feel all of your own emotions again. The trick is to manage and deal with them (instead of covering them up with drugs). I am confused why, during your suboxone "treatment," you weren't helped with this part. You need support along with the suboxone to understand this. Maybe you already do - I apologize if I am offending you.
Anyway: I am concerned that you've done this so fast and against your dcotor's prescribed orders. It's not that I think all doctors know all the answers, but suboxone can be tricky. Fast or slow, suboxone works, but you need support through it. The way you've rapidly gone down might lead you to get frustrated because your withdrawal symptoms might be prolonged and more harsh leading to relapse. Be safe. If you feel bad (beyond the normal flu-like symptoms), contact your doctor ASAP. You're on the right road - suboxone works - just be safe...
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thanks a lot for the information...
just hearing from somebody makes me feel a lot better. i'm only 21 years old and have lost my best friends since elementary school cuz of this c**p. and i'm so ready to Try to get all the trust and bonds back... it's just that it's so hard after even a couple of days feeling like this! one last question... do you know when the peak of withdrawal is with suboxone? i've heard its day 3 or day 4 but i don't know...
and about my doctor; honestly i think he was in it for the money, b/c he didn't really give me any instructions... he just gave me a script for 90 8mg tablets and told me to finish it up in a month... taking 3 a day. he never talked about taper or anything but b/c of that i had to do my own research. the reason why i tapered so fast is b/c i heard the longer you stay on suboxone the harder it is to come off... but perhaps i was misinformed... anyways,
thank you once again for the information, tis has helped a lot!
just hearing from somebody makes me feel a lot better. i'm only 21 years old and have lost my best friends since elementary school cuz of this c**p. and i'm so ready to Try to get all the trust and bonds back... it's just that it's so hard after even a couple of days feeling like this! one last question... do you know when the peak of withdrawal is with suboxone? i've heard its day 3 or day 4 but i don't know...
and about my doctor; honestly i think he was in it for the money, b/c he didn't really give me any instructions... he just gave me a script for 90 8mg tablets and told me to finish it up in a month... taking 3 a day. he never talked about taper or anything but b/c of that i had to do my own research. the reason why i tapered so fast is b/c i heard the longer you stay on suboxone the harder it is to come off... but perhaps i was misinformed... anyways,
thank you once again for the information, tis has helped a lot!
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