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I understand that Xanax is the worst. I just had my third shoulder surgery, and was on Oxys 24/7 for the first week and then slowly less and less and then switched to Hydro, overall only 4 1/2 weeks with days off here and there, and I managed to completely avoid withdrawal. However, I don't deal with chronic pain and I sincerely pray for those who are reliant on high doses of opiates every day for chronic pain.



Despite 3 major surgeries (also 30+ shoulder dislocations), and loving Opiates, I have always had enough discipline to avoid serious withdrawal. 2 or 3 times I have had mild withdrawal symptoms for 24 hours or so.



However, Xanax is a whole different story. At a low point in my life, I was abusing Xanax recreationally, often with alcohol, every day for about 2 months. Not even absurd doses, 1-3 mg per day. I ran out (these wern't prescribed) and that was the most hellish withdrawal oh my god. And I'm only talkin about 1-3mg daily for 2 months or less. I was in hell for 5 solid days, Xanax withdrawal (or any benzo for that matter) is particularly nasty because (similar to opiates with additional pain) the withdrawal is the exact extreme opposite the symptoms the medication is supposed to alleviate. CONSTANT PANIC ATTACKS for 5 straight days!!! The insomnia is ridiculous, I don't think opiate WD are even on the same level in that regard (assuming equivalent use/abuse). And, Benzo withdrawal can kill you, them and alcohol being the only two substances that can do so.



Benzo withdrawal is no joke, I feel like its not as commonly experienced as Opiates, but if you decide to treat Opiate withdrawal with benzos (which is completely valid and viable) be f*****g careful as you don't wana trade one of the worst withdrawals for the other worst withdrawal.
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Your comment about tylenol overdose cannot be stressed enough, and seems to have been somewhat overlooked in this forum. More than 4000mg of tylenol daily is highly toxic to your liver. With the amount of ___/500 Hydros that some people have described taking, that lead to serious liver failure. I think the only reason they package Hydros with so much Tylenol is so people don't crush n sniff em, but beware of the amount of daily tylenol you are taking for real!
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hmm get your facts straight, i got a rx to 10/200's atm
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HERE YOU GO:

      Hopefully some of you who are troubled by this and looking for answers will see this:

What you must understand is that if you take 15-30mg every once and awhile with at least 5-7 days between, you will not suffer any noticable effects...on the short-term. Everytime you stop and start again you are training your mind to expect this "euphoria" and the more years that go by, most people do develop some sort of physical dependance.

Now, if you take over 30 mg for more than 3-5 days in a row, over a 1-3 year period, you are training your mind much quicker and permanently. You will most definitely feel withdrawal symptoms for 1-3 days (intense), 1-2 weeks (draining), 2-12 weeks gets better everyday. Now, if you do this over-and-over and have felt serious withdrawal more than three times over a 2-3 year period, you will now feel withdrawl even after taking a very small amount(15mg-20mg) every once so often, this will remain true for around 5 years of complete soberness. Like smoking, each time you cheat, it gets harder to quit.

Symptoms: Will be at their worse for 3-5 days, WILL progressively get better over a 2-12 week period, even thought it may seem it will last forever...the physical symptoms WILL GO AWAY, just keep focused.

    -Nausea/Dry-heaving
    -Body Aches, especially in the legs
    -Sweating/Chills/Bad Goosebumps
    -Irregular Bowel Movements and stomach pains
    -Restlessness/Sleeplessness despite being totally exhausted
    -Extreme melancholy, lack of will, depression, clouded state of mind

Help:

    -Hot Baths for instant relief...live in the hot bath or a hot tub for the first three days
    -Keeping you mind active really helps: BrainGames, Music, Hobbies, Video Games, Work ext...
    -Changing your environment, if possible...try not to stay where you got high...again, if possible.
    -For extreme cases only, such as heroin or oxycotin use,-SUBOXIN stops the sickness but doesn't get u high-miracle if u use it right
    -Remember why you wanna stop and choose not to enter "the circle of death", if you cheat....U will start the sickness all over again

These numbers decrease on the long-term and may deviate by a week or so depending on the individuals brain chemistry.

First use(Under 5-7 days everyday: Under 15-30mg oxy/hydrocodon : 95% of people no significant or noticeable withdraw symptoms
              
               Over 15-30mg of oxy/hydrocodon over a week everyday: Beginners may feel some symptoms, each repeat gets worse.
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glad to c im not alone and at least someone else can relate
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I have been taking hydros 10/500 for 3 yrs now. and i just like to share my story because i been threw alot being on these. I was on these for back surgery i am 33 yrs old so started them when i was 30. when i started taking these i was only taking a half of a pill and like everyone told me if i wasnt careful i would get hooked. and that is just what happened. I was taking like 20 pills sometimes more a day. and ive never toched a drug before this in my life. when i would run out omg the side affects were the worest thing ive ever been threw.. i prayed to god everyday to help me get off the pills being i didnt believe in taking another drug to get off this drug. i became pregnant 3 months ago and the dr said oh its fine u can keep taking these they wont hurt the baby. that right there was enough for me ro want to keep taking the drug i mean the dr was saying it was ok!! But thank god my husband and i had a talk and even though he knew how hard it was for me to get off the hydros he begged me to plz for the baby get off the pills. I already was going to do whatever i needed to to get off them. At first it was so hard so hard but i went from 20 a day to like 4 a day for like a week and i was so sick from being prego that the withdraws blended right in. then after that week i forced my self to stop completely. and i have to say im so proud of my self its been 2 and half months and i havent taking any at all and i wont ever touch that sh*t again never!!! but i will be the first to tell you that my side affects are still here after that long. i still feel like i dont want to do anything i force my self to move about. and i have had diareha the whole time and still do. my body still hurts a little. but i will tell you i would rather go threw all this thaN TO be on hydros and have them take over my life!! Please from one person to another if you can get off the hydros please do because they are very very addicting!!!!!  hope my story helps a little. and good luck to you all.
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Here is a quick rundown- for about 2 years I've taken at minimum of 2-3 norco's, but usually 6-8 of norco 10s. Today is day 5 for me without any, it hasn't been fun that's for sure. I do not sleep the way I use to of course amongst many other things. It hasn't been too terrible this time of quitting around. Rehab is not an option for me, for many several reasons. So I'm going to do this at home with help of family if necessary. Where I'm really scared is- I'm a nurse and I work on a surgical floor giving out pain meds left and right! I think I will be okay as long as I take the medicine straight to the room. I am scheduled to work this weekend night shift. Scary, I know. I am sure the temptation of a hydro will be there for sometime, and I think I can handle that this time around. I had one of my many "tests" yesterday- a friend who has been 7 months sober slipped and says he took only 1. Not my place to say or think that it was only 1. He had offered me a couple of them and I told him absolutely not. Wasn't going to happen. I was able to hang out with him for several hours after the fact of knowing he had some in his pocket. In my face. But I'm hoping that is helping me get ready for work this weekend. Any advice from anyone is most appreciated! I am really scared right now. Thanks! =)
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Okay so I'm on here to tell about the horrible pain right now I have been taking them at lease everyday twice a day 10 mg I used to smoke weed but being a single mother it made me paranoid like hey u know that u r responsible for another life an it use to trip me out so I quit anyway mi whole body is hurting down to mi head I don't know if its normal I can't even move mi son want to play but all I can do is cry cause I can't play with him its horrible so please think twice before u even try to get a buzz
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Yes, I been taking vicodin/norco for 10yrs+. Yes had all five of my kids by c-section and also a hysterectomy. Yes I was addicted. I knew I was taking them way to long. You start making excuses or justifying why you need to take them. You say you are gonna stop, but years later you are still singing that tune. Just stop, be strong, tell someone if you can, however for me, I trusted in God, because no one still to this day knows how badly I abused this drug. In the end, you will feel better, look better, and just be a better person all the way around. Try not to take other drugs to ease the pain, because you will just get another addiction to deal with. Be strong, is my best advice. You are stronger than any pill. Believe that!
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Withdrawals sucks, that is for sure. I'm not even gonna pacify that. However, everyday it will suck less, and less. You'll love the new you in the end. Drugs sucks, You will enjoy being high on life much better. Remember this, "Never let something control you, always be in control of something." Be strong my friends.
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30 days approximately :(
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I didn`t mean ever to get addicted. I am and I have to have them every day. the runs and upset stomach soon come to me if I have not had my dosein the area of 8 to 10 hr.s I take them for my back- disk degenertive and blown out knees. I am stuck, I am not living in pain, I always have the correct amount of pills in my bottle in case I am called in for a count. I get extra ones always so I will not get cut off from a bad pill count. the day something can help keep this pain at bay(none of the bull out now) I may stop taking them. until then I must have them, and that is the way of it. best thing is to get these for long term only if there is nothing else that helps your pain. They make everyday easier for me, I am not talking about a "high" I am talking about they really to a great job reducing my pain to to my daily chores and sleep without pain. thanks
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Im in your position 2 weeks and feel just the same lousy I tried a patch while over seas and it worked good for 3 days then i was shakin and bumming again Im going to my doctor tomorrow and explain the deal
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Hi all! i am currently 72 hours into "withdrawal" from a 200-300mg a day oxycodone addiction. I have withdrawn before- when unable to access opiates- and the withdrawal was bad within twenty four hours and TERRIBLE within 48 hours.

 

On tuesday april 24, 2012, Approx twenty four hours after my last dose which was Monday April 23, 20112 (however on monday i had merely 10 mg, which compared to the usual two to three hundred is nothing for my body so my last real dose was on Sunday April 22, 2012), I arrived at my grandmas to detox. at this point I was sweating profusesly. my body felt like it was falling apart, and i had chills like I'd never be warm again.

I am a christian. I believe in God, Jesus, and the holy ghost, and that only through the blood of jesus will I be granted salvation. And Praise the lord he has gifted us with that! He died that we might live forever. I am very new at this christian thing, but my grandmother is a very devout, pentacostal christian woman.

When I arrived at her house twenty four hours after my last dose she put her hands on me (she's done that more than once since but the first time her hands felt very hot on my shoulders but when i touched them with my hands they were cool, like mine own) when she put her hands on me she bound the spirit of addiction and the physical aspects of withdrawal by the power of Jesus.

 It is now April 25th, 2012, and I have a very slight ache in my legs like maybe I ran up the stairs too fast. But I am warm. And I am comforted. And I believe that the breath of God blew away my addiction- the spiderweb that had me cocooned.

Just to be clear, Sunday 22 was my last "REAL" dose. It is Wednesday 25, and Im FINE! I have been healed. Just like in biblical days.

How COOL IS THAT????

Praise be to God!

 

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Just thought I'd update.... I was the last post, it's now been 96 hours symptom free.
Praise Jesus!

 

If I read this I would think I was crazy. I'm telling you, I'm a hard sell. There is just no other explanation.  I was very sick, then grandma laid hands on me ( shehas a special place with the lord) and away it went. No cravings or any other symptoms.

I will never stop praising the lord for this wonderful gift that I have done to deserve. i think he knows i'll be making up for it now!!!

 

I've always wanted to be able to honestly have my salutation be....

 

Praise God!

Your Sister in Christ

Lauren

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