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Slowly tapered from 12 to 1mg over 8 week period.  I started feeling some discomfort at 1mg.  I got a script for Clonidine (Catapress) .2mgs and bought some Green Vein Kratom at a local "alternative" shop.  When I jumped off the Sub completely I tried to wait to late afternoon to take the two "helpers", and again a bedtime at a rate of 1-1/2 teaspoons Kratom and .2mg Clonidine.  Days 1-3 were not difficult.  Days 4 & 5 I experienced the explosive "jitters" common to opiate WDs.  So I started the Kr & Cl earlier and took them 3 times those 2 days.  All was well.  Great sleep too!  Day 6, I decided to cut way back on my ridiculous coffee usage-DUH!  Whether this helped, or just the extra hours clean I will probably never know.  But 2 things you do not need at detox time is mass quantities of caffeine, nor the infamous caffiene quitting "migrane".  So I strongly reccomend tapering way down on the Caf-drug a lot earlier than I did!  Day 6 was much better.

I think I was finished by day 6, but I kept on using Kratom for another 3 weeks.  Here's why.  I held 16mg of Sub back in case I started withdrawals from the Kratom.   There is so much contradictory stuff about Kratom, I did not want to take a chance.  I wanted to make sure all vestiges of my original 5-year legal sub addiction had all left my body in case I had to use a very small amount of Sub for a very short time because of the Kratom.  I didn't, so I truly enjoyed watching my last 2 strips of sub swilling around to oblivion.  God is Good

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That is quite good for you. Have a good time ahead.

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Yes, God is Good. never lose hope, take care.

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