For those that say their penises don't work coz they're cut or uncut need the head on their shoulders checked. How could you possibly know if you were cut or uncut (the opposite to what you are now) that it would be better, feel better, more sensitive, get erect, make more pre-cum, last longer, cum quicker, etc etc.
I don't see how this argument is any different than the one about immunisation. Kids die and have major problems from that but you don't see much argument against it. A circumcision is just immunising the male child against a reported increased chance of aids/hep C/infections etc. It is no more or less conclusive than giving him a needle for mumps or whooping cough that could just kill him or cause paralysis.
Parents make decisions every day while bringing up their kids and can only hope that they made the right choice. Surely this is just one of these. I don't see emails of hate coz someone has decided to bring their child up as a Hindu or Christian but then the child changes their mind and resents the decisions their parents made. You make a decision for your child thinking you are making the right choice given the information you have at the time. You can only do your best!
As for the whole thing about I watched a video of a circumcision and it looked shocking, the kid just cried and I couldn't do it. Firstly, I reckon if you held any baby down on a table for any reason (putting cream on a rash etc), they'd scream because they don't like being held down and poked and prodded. Secondly, if you watched a video of a child having any operation it would make your stomach churn.
Lastly, my penis works fine and I don't think circumcision or lack thereof has anything to do with it. Do I think my parents made the right decision for me by leaving me uncircumcised, no but they thought they were doing the right thing at the time. Do I think my life may have been different if I was circumcised, yeah often, but sending emails of hate aren't going to change anything and neither is spending the rest of my life hating my parents so I just get on with living life with what I've ended up with.
And thanks to the original poster for talking about it and congratulations for talking to your son about it. Can't be easy for some parents to talk about stuff like that.
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When I was circumcised at age 13, I was put to sleep so I did not feel a thing. When I woke up, they gave me a shot when it started to hurt. After I was home, I took pain pills for about 2 days. It was bandaged for a few days and the stitches came out in 1 week. In my mind, not bad at all. I would do it again in a heartbeat.
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To answer your points briefly:
1. If so it failed totally.
2. I read the Kim and Pang study years ago and thought then that it seemed amateurish, vague and subjective. Seems I was right. It was discredited in a follow up in the same journal: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2007.06895_3.x/full
Seems they didn't even get their sums right! Studies of men circumcised as part of anti-HIV drives in Africa report 98 % + satisfaction with the outcome. At least one study says sex was better after being cut:
http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/6213/male-circumcision-boosts-sexual-pleasure-aids-forum-told
Don't be fooled by the emotional hysterics of the anti-circ lobby. Or by sloppy "studies" like Kim & Pang's that should never have been published. Circumcision really does not spoil the fun!
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Whether this kid gets increased protection from AIDS, I can't say. I CAN say he won't have to see his wife's gynecologist to be treated for the yeast infection he's carrying and keeps passing back to her every time she gets cured. I once knew an uncircumcised guy who had the honor of doing this. Office visit: 120.00. Look on the faces of the women in the waiting room when the nurse called him back—alone!--? Well, I don't know if that look was priceless or not, but I can say that poor guy would have sure given all the money he had to be somewhere else at that moment!
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Circumcision is a painless, simple operation, if people like who want their children to grow up constantly getting infections then fine, but to people who want to do the RIGHT thing for their son and get him cut i urge then to do so.
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I'm 47 and intact and have *never* had an infection down there, same as most intact men.
People who want to do the RIGHT thing for their son should leave him intact and let him decide for himself if he wants parts of his genitals cut off or not. It's *his* body.
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I was given the chance to make the choice and for me the Right Thing was when I was circumcised. I have no regrets about getting circumcised but wish my parents would have had it done when I was born.
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my brother & husband were circumcised same day at age of 14 and 16 by professional not a doctor he was Hajam who did the jab we all watch both of then and now later I got married with my cousin
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Lucky you... I wish my Dad had circumcised me. I cannot think of anything else that would bond a father and son so closely together... and your grand father helped! I had myself circumcised when I was twenty two and I've never regretted it...indeed, I had another procedure carried out when I was twenty eight to tighten the skin up even more, making it drum-skin tight.
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Your son has a legal right to his whole body. In the absence of a compelling medical reason, there is NO parental authority to consent to a circumcision.
It has to be his decision, one taken without coercion.
He may learn later what he has lost. Unfortunately, circumcision is irreversible and he won't be able to get back what was cut off.
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Boys around that age want to be circumcised because they've heard, either from older boys, from boys their own age, or directly from girls themselves that girls don't like uncircumcised boys
This is total nonsense, because the opposite is true.
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Well Roland23,
thats a great opinion u have there, but its still just your own opinion. The stated "fact" that girls like a uncircumcised guy better then a circumcised one is no fact at all. First it depends a little on the region ur living in, if u live in a region where almost all boys are circumcised due to RIC or religious reasons u might encounter girls who prefer a circumcised guy or worse who would never consider a uncircumcised guy as a posible partner (religious reasons as example).
On the other hand if u live in a area where almost no guy is circumcised u will probably find out that most girls prefer uncircumcised guys, but even there u will find exeptions some find a circumcised penis more attractive then a "natural" one.
Anyway if the boy wants to be circumcised and is well informed about the possible consequences and also has the competence to make a decision like that (the parents should know if the child is mature enough or not) then why the hell not? For me growing up uncircumcised was hard, no one noticed that i had in fact a thight foreskin and i was to shy to talk about anything like that. So i grew up believing that every boy felt pain during a erection - we had no internet until i was about 17 years old it was then that i found out that i in fact had a threadable medical condition but since i was so shy it took me about another year to build up the courage to do anything about it.
Well i was 18 almost 19 years old when i finally had the circumcision done and i wont lie here, yes it is somewhat painfull for about 4 days but nothing in compared to the pain i endured all those years. I am not talking only about the physical pain due to my phimosis but also about the mental pain - i mean i felt like i was punished somehow. About a week after my circumcision was done it was still quite irritating to wear loose boxers but even that was gone a few days later, but the most revealing thing was my first painless erection and the sensations i could now enjoy.
So to sum it all up, stop beeing ignorant. Stop trying to force ur own opinion onto others. Just take a deep breath and let ppl make their own decisions. I am ok with boys being circumcised but i am also ok if a boy is not, but i am not ok if a boy is forced to be circumcised without medical reasons at all.
sincerly Jake
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Hi Dude10123:
Circumcisions may be done at any age, so if you really want one it is available to you.
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Jake:
I am sorry to hear that you were circumcised because of a diagnosis of phimosis. That was unnecessary because now we know that there are better conservative treatments that preserve the foreskin and its huge number of pleasure nerve sensors.
It is sad that the Internet was not available to you at that time because you would have been able to learn of conservative painless stretching of the foreskin to relieve phimosis without surgery.
I am also surprised that phimosis was painful to you because phimosis is normally a painless condition.
There is strong evidence that women who have been with both kinds of men - circumcised and intact - overwhelmingly prefer the intact male as a sexual partner because the female is far more likely to experience orgasm.
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Roland, I get the feeling that most circ'd guys choose the attitude that they are happy they were, to preserve their sanity or defend their condition. I can understand why someone might decide to if they feel it is somewhat erotic for themselves or their partner.
I know a guy whose wife took him in to be fixed and made him get circ'd at the same time. Well that's the way we describe his adventure when we talk about it. About a year later she left him.
I am certainly glad my mother refused to let them do it. I would not like to have missed out on the pleasure of the stretch receptors in the foreskin and my wife would not like it as much either. We tried having sex while holding my foreskin back to simulate being circ'd and she did not like that at all.
BTW do you think there are a couple posts missing here?
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