Is Methadose anything like methadone?

I started like most of you with recreational use ,unaware of the pending devestation that lay ahead! Back in the day the only mild forms of pain meds were percodan ,so I tried a few and of course felt like superman ! Then came percocet & tylox both only 5 mg! LOL! Well I actually did have severe back pain as well (I SWEAR)! So I self medicated and of course my tolerence rose quickly so I would take more and more But my concern and rationale was the amount of tylanol I was ingesting! Then a "friend" said all that tylanol is killing your liver and kidneys try snorting a bad of this herion ! I was very apprehensive so he said just take half,well hello 5 minutes later I finished the rest and asked where we could get more! So we did then I sent a "friend to get a large amount and he came back w/tar ! I was livid! "I can't snort this! I hadn't chased or thought of a nasal pump to dilute it ,so the next step in my demise ,I crossed the line and I.V'D and again of course loved it so now I could do The boy and dilaudid! then I realized the needle became part of the addiction! And soon I hit rock bottom I don't jones well at all ! duh!So it was the clinic for me In a way it helped ,it got me off the street and the steel and I was able to keep a job and have a "life"I was on the cherry juice 90-100 mgs a day for 3-4 years but I wanted a real life so I had made it to monthly takehomes so I slowly weened myself down over a 9-12 month period because no matter what anyone says it is the most addictive drug ever! But i wasn't sure how much so?so I got to 25 mgs and it was time to go back but I had stored quite a bit from weening ,several 1000 mgs so I said the heck w/it i'm goin turkey! The 1st 2-3 days wer O.K so I'm thinking this will be a breeze ! WRONG!!! ON THE 4TH DAY ALL HE DBL L'S BROKE OUT! Fortunately I had just aquired a large windfall and didn't have to work ! So with all my strength I went to a very cool dr who was an addict himself and I was honest w/him excerpt for my massive stash but he gave me attivan, flexerall(sp?) ,klonadine bentyl (for stomach cramps And I had a qp of killer sticky icky And the combo really helped ! I still felt like c**p for a month!! Way longer than any other opiate jones! So If you have to go the m'done route 1st try to mkeep it as low as possable then find a DR. and be honest It may take a few visits but get it done b4 you start!!!! LMAO--now! So good luck And never take a suboxone when you are on M'done ! It's like narcon! Instant fullblown withdrawl in 20 minutes!!

Im 26 years old and got into the whole opiate game around 11-12 after breaking my arm. Getting my hands on 20-60 vicodon (actually it was Norco 10mg pures) was no sweat due to a buddies parents online pharmacy prescription. But when I moved to Seattle I lost the hook and quickly got my hands on Fentanyl and what a euphoric jump it was, then another jump to rigging up and soon after taking weekly trips to Vancouver BC to get white was the next jump. (I did mess with beans/wills/chickens/oxys whatever you want to call it for a bit when
I couldnt get the pure cause I didnt want to f**k with tar like so many people do in the Northwest ( Im sure all over) but I wouldn't pay the rediculous $80 fee for one 80 f-that (I hear people are paying upwards of $130 for them now) Its funny cause us dope addicts werent really in the limelight until these bean heads started killing and jacking pharmacies everyday)

Anyhow jump forward a decade and I started at the Methadone clinic. I just got sick and tired of being sick and tired. I realized I played hockey, I was sponsored for skateboarding I snowboarded, broke many bones and chipped the good ol' tailbone a few times but now Im being a little b***h crying and moaning cause of withdrawals, I thought Im not even a man anymore. So I was the person at the clinic who wasnt trying to get med evals everyday to upo my dose to try and chase the high, I was about my sobriety after many rehabs.
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Back to the subject at my clinic we use the red methadone oral dose and from what Ive heard the red and flavor in the dose is used to stop the methadone from geling up in the dispensing machines (which I believe the machines aren't accurate at all) But from my experience and knowledge Methadone and Methadose is the same thing just like vicodon, lor-tab, and hydro are the same thing. It's just like when bean heads get CDN, ABG, MEX 80's and syke themselves into believing they arnt as powerful. It's all generics (They might have different binders but if a bean is 40mg's its 40mg's.

P.S. Sorry for rambling so much...I'm sure it's obvious I just took my daily dose of methadone.

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And you are adding to the lack of credible information Methadose and Methadone are the same drug look at the chemical make up and it is a powerful anelgesic on the same order as Morphine. But believe what you want now are there differences between the different manufacturers of methadone or methadose equal probabley not just like getting percocets by watson or percocet by malingkroft differ but they are still the same drug as far as chemical make up

Nobody likes a KNOW-IT-ALL!!!

I am a current methadone treatment patient due to opiate abuse.(heroin)

It is absolutely addicting & like most opiates it happens quickly.You will know if you start to experience flu like symptoms when no longer dosing.You will get addicted quickly. I don't recommend more than 10 days use from personal experience it is a drug I say stay away from if you don't know what you're dealing with

theres no difference bro. beleive me

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There is definately a difference between & it is effect and cost the previous chat, in ur opinon was rude, but very very right in mine. Thats why now in uk methadone has exceeded its patent and is now copied by various other companies other than rosemont the original producers. matindale now made Physeptone, which again like methadose is nowhere near as effective. However 1 small point that i would slightly disagree with is that methadone although gives a high whilst stablising in first few wks. all prescribers would consider a high a negative side effect. its supposed to hold u, nothing more. plus body adapts.

theres no difference bro. beleive me

Methadose just markets methadone

toothache huh..yea once on methadone tylenol just dont cut it..I haven't seen the biscuits in years...used to give us the orange ones her in ny now its red liquid methadone

Yes. Methadose is just another brand of methadone. Some methadone clinics use methadose. I have a friend on painkillers, and he was on methadone, now gets methadose, and he notices no difference in the effects or on the withdrawal he feels when he runs out early.

I've noticed a LOT of addicts say there's a difference. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've been going to a clinic for 5 years now where I get methadone. I have however, taken methadose, say if I missed a day or two at the clinic bc of car troubles or from just being out doing stupid stuff, and I noticed no difference. Also, there's another clinic about equally distant from me that gives methadose, and i've taken it there, and felt the same. I actually thought I may have felt it more, but that may have been just in my head or possibly because I'm so used to taking methadone. I have also taken my regular dose of methadone and added methadose pills to it after a surgery, and it DOES have analgesic effects (that's why they give you methadone in pain management, because after a while oxy or morphine doesn't work as well, you become dependent AND tolerant of it. They they prescribe methadone, FOR PAIN. Maybe it doesn't work as well as heroin, but you have to consider the source. You're not going to recognize the analgesic effects of methadone after you've been doing heroin, but if you've never taken any painkillers, a dose of methadone will kill your pain quite well.) The only difference is the brand name. And while sometimes brand name drugs work better than generic forms, I haven't noticed it at all when it comes to this.

Methadone is an opioid, not a opiate. It is not a derivative of morphine (natural substance), but a synthetic product, created chemically. It is much more potent than morphine (4x minimum). Opiates have a duration much smaller than methadone. This means a much longer withdrawal symptoms than morphine, heroin, opium, hydrocone, oxycodone and so on, and greater difficulty in detoxification. In addition, methadone is much less pleasant than derivatives of opium and opium itself. Stay away if you can.
Sorry for my bad english

Methadone is not a potent analgesic? At least not when compared to morphine? My friend, do not say BS. A thousand times I replaced methadone with morphine (20 mg ampoules), and I can assure you that a tolerance to 100 mg of methadone (oral or intravenous makes no difference) is not resolved with 300 milligrams of morphine (15 vials). Back in my day, in Florence 1 phial of physeptone (11 mg methadone injection) cost 10,000 pounds (20 dollars), and 1 phial of 20 mg morphine cost 4000 pounds (8 dollars). The phiseptone was much more rare, desirable and sought. The flash (rush?) of intravenous methadone is very similar to that of white heroin (unfortunately after two or three days to use the effect is not more noticeable), instead the flash of morphine seems a fight against a herd of porcupines during a fire. Do not rubbish other people, even you know very well what you say

Methadose,Methadone,Ain't no difference in what I call the biggest scam in the WORLD! Use herion you pay out big money to get high,it may be good sh*t(and thats the kind the kills most people) or it could be BS(and thats the kind that gets you life in prison for killing the S.O.B. that sold it to you)Sad to say but,the methadone clinic is the best of two evils.You can't beat the system,you either buy the Herion grown buy the U.S. backed warlords in afganistan,take a chance on getting caught,or you go to the clinics backed by the U.S. Have you caught on yet? It's all run by the C.I.A. Thats how they run all their little wars all over the planet.OH,YOU THINK I"M CRAZY NOW,RIGHT! If you look back all the way untill you get to the year 2000, did you notice that the price of herion dropped 60% in price,did you notice that even street level purity went to 70-80% purity? Does this not seem strange?Ever here of AIRAMERICA? In case you dont know,they were a C.I.A. front during the Vietnam war.Same players different song.PLEASE,PLEASE, dont belive me,do your on research!Like I said,Dont belive all you hear.Check it out on your own.I was their,I help load opium that was turned into morphine,sent to France and converted to herion.It's all one goverment *uck!Herion money is used in the world economy! Go study this and you will see part of the real MATRIX that your not supposed to see.They got one big club(AND WE AINT IN IT) Look at the Warren Commission on the J.F.K assaination,all of the members of the commission became very wealthy or a USA president!Go check it all out before you call me crazy!

 

A minor myth about methadone is that Methadose is not real methadone.  All methadone is the same chemical. Methadose is just a brand name. The Germans invested in methadone during the second world war when their supplies of opium were cut off. During the war the Germans needed more painkillers than usual, so they got to work synthesizing opioids.  Meperidine, its brand time is Demerol®, was another analgesic they invented, along with several hundred others that didn't become famous.

To answer some concerns about methadone and methadose, please let me start by saying I have a Ph.D in science (psychology) and I am disabled to the point that I consume almost 900mg of methadone daily. If you are saying "No way!" allow me to inform you that most well educated physicians are aware there is no standard upper limit to methadone or methadose. It depends entirely on the patient as some of us require much larger doses for the same effect. Even at 1600mg daily, I felt no euphoric effects, simply a reduction in pain.  This is true, although many doctors, and especially small town doctors will deny this and be afraid of killing patients with higher doses, thus under medicating people in pain. Death can occur with an overdose usually by stopping the persons breathing while they are sleeping or passed out. 

I have spent the last twenty years following the different pain prescriptions and I am as interested as I was in psychology, so I am well educated as to this and other drugs--unfortunately, more so than many doctors. So here is the straight scoop on methadone and methadose.

First, they are the same product. In case you do not wish to believe me, here is a pick directly from Wikipedia. Methadone (also known as Symoron, Dolophine, Amidone, Methadose, Physeptone, Heptadon and many other names) is a synthetic opioid. It is used medically as an analgesic and a maintenance anti-addictive and reductive preparation for use by patients with opioid dependency. It was developed in Germany in 1937, mainly because Germany required a reliable internal source of opiates. Because it is an acyclic analog of morphine, methadone acts on the same opioid receptors and thus has many of the same effects. Methadone is also used in managing severe chronic pain, owing to its long duration of action, extremely powerful effects, and very low cost. Methadone was introduced into the United States in 1947 by Eli Lilly and Company.

Yes, they are the same product just distributed by different companies so it gets a different name. Secondly, and to answer another question from the comments, Methadone/Methadose (Remember. both are the same) are one of the the least expensive medications to produce! In 2006, a 15mg methadone tablet by Roxane sold for $0.34 each.  That is the retail price in the USA--thirty-four cents!. I'm certain it is higher in 2013 but even if it were doubled, it is still one of the least expensive medications available, except perhaps for aspirin.

I have taken methadose and methadone and compared the results in my body as scientifically as possible and I find no difference.