Can you explain banding procedure little bit more?
And did doctor told you when can you get back to you regular activities?
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I am an English woman who had my surgery in London and am interested to see the different advice you have been given in the U.S.
I was told strictly NO BATHS for at least three days and longer if I could. I believe this really helped.
By the end of the first week I was so much better than I could have imagined and after two weeks ready to get back to normal. I think if you can take two weeks off this is great. For the first 3 days I stayed in bed, just getting up to use the bathroom, (very very painful but it will get better I promise!) and even after that I took it really easy having rests if I felt tired.
I ate small meals with plenty of vegetables and fruit and took my stool softeners religiously. The one we have here is called 'lactulose' and it was brilliant. My painkillers were diclofenac (probably different name in U.S.) which don't constipate and I took these alongside normal paracetemol. I went to the toilet at the normal time the day after surgery. The most painful days were day 2 and 3. I felt very down and worried about returning to work but don't despair! I made a good decision to take the second week off and after that it was a bit better each day. Bowel movements still painful but totally fine in between. Before the end of the first week I knew that I was going to be fine.
I am now 8 weeks on and can't tell you how my life is transformed. No more bleeding, pain mess etc. I wish I had had this done years ago.
I wish you luck if you are thinking of doing it. Remember at the bad moments it is going to be worth it in the end
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I am not a doctor, but I have had the banding procedure done at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester. Basically the hemorrhoid is gently grasped and pulled, and a strong rubber type band is put around it at the base. This is similar to docking a sheep tail. After a few weeks the hemorrhoid falls off due to lack of blood flow.
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I was given explicit instructions of stool softeners to help me which I feel were the best that could have been given. The morning after surgery I was to take 3 tsp. of Milk of Magnesia and a glass of 8 oz. of orange juice. Then begin using a type of Metamucil or generic form regularly 3x a day. I chose to get the clear mix in kind and have been mixing it in grape juice.
My first BM the next morning nearly killed me trying to pass the packing. I was surprised the neighbors didn't call the police thinking I'd been attacked. Each one since then has gotten a little better except for one that was a little too hard. Still, I shake after each one. I was unable to do the sitz bath. I can not comprehend how anyone could do one. Just sitting on the toilet seat was too hard for me and so uncomfortable that I couldn't stay there for more than maybe 5 minutes, much less 20. I am disabled and have a lot of arthritis and bad knees which makes me unable to get down in the tub so my husband figured out an alternate sitz. I sat on the edge of the tub and he used the hand held shower head to wash/sitz me. It has been pretty hard for me to pee because of having to lean forward on the seat. That pinches my bladder which in turn refuses to cooperate. I don't blame it! I wouldn't either!
At this point, I have a small amount of bowl leakage. I'm not going to worry about this yet. I feel it's still too early so I'm just going to ignore it and figure that it will continue to heal and will stop. I have very little bleeding now. Yesterday I had my 2 week f/u with my doctor who said I'm still bleeding a little bit inside but it is looking very good. I couldn't believe that put that thing in me to look inside. O M G! I have to go back again in 2 weeks.
I totally regretted having this surgery the day after and each day after. Every time I said that my husband would say that when it was over I'd be glad I had it done. I knew it had to be done. Right now at 2 weeks out, would I do it again, yeah I'm pretty sure I would.
Just remember that we are all different and we all respond differently. What we read here isn't necessarily the rule of thumb for all of us. However, we do need to pay close attention to the methods that have been used after surgery for bowl health. I feel mine has been great and do hope you'll consider it. I wish all of you the best in surgery and recovery. :-)
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I had 3 internal haemorroids removed 5 weeks ago. There is still slight swelling (a lump) at the entrance which I hope will go away. The whole area feels hard and especially at night there is quite a bit of soreness and itchiness which is getting better daily.
1st night in hospital after op. Extreme pain. requested pain killers every 4 hours
2nd day onwards - At home, started taking 2 x ibuprofen and 1 x paracetemol every 3 hours. I did this for at least 3 weeks until the pain eased and I started taking less and less often until pain stopped.
Along with pain killers i took 15mls in morning of lactulose solution and 15 mls at night to soften my stools
I ate just minestrone soup with the odd slice of brown bread and drank plenty of water for the first week. I also have two small glasses of prune juice every day along with my lactulose solution.
Toilet Advice:
A good tip when going to the toilet is to have a towel in your mouth to dull the moaning from the pain. It gives you a bit of an achey jaw but your family will be less concerned. It also gives you a bit of focus if you moan in a chant like waywhilst gagging yourself. Also just before you go to the toilet, start running the bath with warm water ready for you to jump in to. sit in for as long as you like, usually ten mins is fine. This will ease discomfort and keep you clean.
I found that my bowel movements became really regular after a few days and I go to the toilet as soon as I wake up and the discomfort is a lot better now 5 weeks on. I am hoping everything will be better in a few more weeks. I have only just returned to work. Every day feels better than the day before. The one thing I would say is to make sure that your stools are ALWAYS SOFT. Good luck everyone. Reading all your posts has brought back memories of the early post op days and now they are behind me thank goodness. I am glad I had the op.
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I'm an active person and this was interfering with all my adventurous plans to do outdoor stuff. It was also definitely getting worse and I noticed in very cold or very hot temperatures, I would ache and feel swollen Keeping clean was becoming a chore and the surgeon, a colo-rectal specialist offered the surgery after propanol injections didn't really offer long term relief. I didn't I had internal and external piles which bled about 40% of the time when I had a poo and if so, left me feeling lousy and swollen.
I was offered a spinal anaesthetic on the day of the surgery as an alternative to general and then given a sedative in theatre. they removed 3 piles instead of 2 which seemed a bonus to me, they were originally concerned about constriction of the anus upon healing so I was expecting to still have at least one small internal. Immediately post-op was fine, no pain but when the spinal juice wore off....oH mY!
I wasn't expecting the searing pain which followed and built up as the anaesthetic wore off. the first night was pretty bad, I couldn't get comfortable in any position but found that lying on my back with my feet up knees bent was the easiest to sustain. Beware of occasional stabbing pains, accompanying any involuntary ass twitch, including when you finish peeing and the sphincter squeezes.. Ouch a daisy (it does get better though) I tried meditating on the first night as I had taken a lot of painkillers which weren't really strong enough - and to my amazement the pain subsided after imagining a ball of healing blue ice inside my rectal area, spreading out through my entire body and imagining blocking up all the pain receptors in my brain with light. That was incredible relief and testament to the power of matter over mind.
I did eventually sleep well and the next morning i had a poo which i was relieved about.
wasn't expecting a ball of flesh wrapped in gauze to appear but the excised flesh had been left in place, as a natural and safe way to stop the wound closing in on itself, it exited of it's own accord just before the first poo. I hadn't had this explained so it was a horror moment ! For a moment.
there was some blood but not a lot...but then the pain kicked in. The type which breaks your spirit. a ring of fire, literally. i immediately stumbled into the shower, shaking in pain and had a wash with some medicated bodywash, stood there until i could handle it a bit better, and then promptly lay down for the rest of the day with a light application of some healing salve and some painkiller. it was a searing pain and it does knock the stuffing out of you. i wasn't looking forward to that again but every day got a bit better until day 3. i had a second poo after lunch and it was the worst pain of all but after that, things got better bit by bit.
I was given diclofenac and took some nurofen for the pain and anti-inflamatory properties. i was also given fybogel 2 per day. i started with 2 a day for the first few days but went down to one fybogel as i was having two big dumps a day instead of one. the first poo wasn't too bad but the second poo was a killer pain in the ass and finished me off for the rest of the day.
By day 4-5 i could walk with little discomfort and no blood after a poo but still with searing pain. Recovery time got better from a few hours to 20 minutes, then 10 minutes....nice
but it got painful walking for more than 10 minutes, the swelling had begun to subside and that improved everything, but would feel a bit swollen up again if I walked too much or sat down for too long!
today on day eight, i had a poo this morning which only stung for a minute or two, that made me smile and I've stopped taking painkillers but still have a diclofenac which seems to help the swelling.
I've noticed from day one that my stools are circular and come straight out ! This is an obvious improvement from my previous situation and hope of continued improvement will have proved it was a good decision to go ahead with surgery.
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i havent eaten any meat or for that matter any junky stuff for ages which has helped me stay regular and my stools soft.
i was given a course of metrodinazole to stop post infection which was a 5 day course.
i have tried to drink as much as possible, including the fybogel.
i've used wipes to clean myself regularly which helps feel comfortable and helps healing.
the draining of the wounds is an inconvenience. as a 39 year old male, learning to use panty liners, has been an experience. i understand the open wounds will take a fair few weeks to stop draining as they heal. it feels right that the wound can drain and as long as i replace the dressing two or3 times a day it feels hygienic and i've used a healing salve around the outside of the skin which can also get sore.
I'm pleased so far, don't want to speak too soon, obviously my bum doesn't feel right yet, it's still swollen and doesn't feel very normal but I can feel the difference. I think it will take at least a month if not more to heal well enough to get back to normal activity, i'm hopeful that the surgical team's experience and my careful /research & attention to healing will provide the desired results.
it has put my life on hold, especially with having food poisoning for 3 weeks before the op, bit but that's why i was having the procedure in the first place ! if you're brave and prepared to do your best in aftercare, i'd recommend it (at this stage of recovery)
Best of Luck to anyone who is about to undergo or is considering.. i had 3 good reason to elect this procedure.
1 obstacle to health & fitness,
2 bleeding & discomfort, infection risk (worsening over time)
3 hygiene and cleanliness
for any surgeons or pain specialists reading this, better (stronger) pain management for this (open wound) outpatient procedure should be offered, including a rapid acting oral sedative. the pain is the type which because of unfamiliarity and centrality to your body's nervous system, can make you very anxious. Sedatives would also help with the natural fear of the pain of defecation which is at least for the very first week, a big issue - as 'the ring of fire' post defecation experience is quite unique.
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I had the surgery and am on Day 8, and finally starting to see the possibility of having a life again someday. The last week has been the most physically painful of my life, as many have said. Complicate that with the fact that I was in total denial of how bad it would be and only took the doctor's advice half seriously. I did take stool softeners, but didn't have enough fiber or water in my diet, and was downing Percoset regularly. And I had actually thought I might be at work this week.
I was SO WRONG.
Had my first BM on Day 3 - small and awful. Day 4 - got a little more but not much. Day 5 - less than either day, but the pain was increasing. Then came my dreaded Day 6.
I knew the piper was going to have to be paid, as I had been eating regularly and not passing much. Well, I ended up impacted, with a big ball that would not - COULD NOT - come out that tiny little hole with all its surgery swellings. After screaming, crying, sweating, and begging for death for many hours, I finally reached in and started scooping with my finger. This is not a good idea, folks - but I had no choice at that point. My stomach would not accept food or water or even pain pills. My lower intestine was full and pushing hard, I wasn't trying to strain but my traitorous body was spasming anyway, still nothing was happening.
The Sitz bath helped some, and I showered after every attempt, though my knees were so weak I could barely stand. It was the most physically painful and disgusting day of my life - but the pain overrode everything else.
Finally after 20 hours of this and 3 "scoopings" I was able to have the BM. It was so hard it clogged my toilet. And here I'd thought I'd been taking precautions with the stool softeners. What a joke! I ended up at the emergency room yesterday because I was so dehydrated from vomiting and being unable to drink, and they gave me a lovely anti-nausea drug I'd never heard of before called Zofran and some magnesium citrate to drink. Yum (not!).
I am now off all painkillers except ibuprofen and lidocaine locally, and have become a believer in watching every molecule that goes down my throat for its fiber value. If it's not high fiber or liquid, it doesn't go down - pretty much brown rice, broth, and fresh fruits/veggies with the occasional Triscuit.
I'd suggest for anyone considering this...
1. Take your diet (starting a week before your surgery, continuing on) VERY SERIOUSLY!! Eat nothing that is not fiber-licious.
2. Chew your food a lot - more than you want to - to break it down and aid digestion.
3. Make sure you have someone to take care of you for a few days. This is essential.
4. Get a Sitz bath beforehand. I found the tub/hot tub hard because there is still that sitting on a hard surface thing, plus getting up and down when weak is not easy, and the warmth may make you want to go....and with a Sitz you are already on the toilet, you just dump it in.
5. Go very easy on the Percoset and Vicodin to avoid the ensuing constipation. Don't take them unless you've tried ibuprofen first and still are in agony.
6. Don't expect to be able to go to work in a week. I'd say 2 weeks minimum, plan for another possible week or two[/list]
I think the younger you are, the easier it will be. (I'm a 46yo female and have been suffering for 23 years since the birth of my first child). Every situation is different, but knowing what I do now (and wishing I'd seen this board a week ago) I would say at this point I probably would not have done it. Yes, I've bled with every BM for years, and they were starting to make their presence known in other, more public and embarassing, ways. Still, for me, the cure is worse than the disease. I hope that in a couple months this will all be a bad memory and I'll at least be free of the evil 'roids.
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Like many of you, I was given no direction by my doctor. He didn't even tell me that there was 6 inches of gauze stuck in my butt after surgery. I feel a lot better knowing I'm not the only one "slowly" recovering. I kept hearing one month and here I am two months post and still not healed completely.
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i am so glad i found so much information in this forum, thank you so much for all of your post. I am a female, 28, have hemorrhoid because of childbirth. I just had mine removed on Tue dec 14. They removed one internal and one external about the side of top of thumb. Today is 3 days after, i am still in bed. i came home in the same day, they gave me 1 percoset at the hospital, and i knew it would cause the problem so i refused to take more after. Second day and first night was the nightmare. i had so much pain like everyone. i have been taking tylenol extra strength every 5,6 hours. Yesterday I had my first Bm, it was constipated, so i tried to push, i knew i shouldnt but couldnt stop, after that i had another 2 BM too soft like diarrhea, from all of the fiber and stool softener i took. One thing i do regret i didnt start the stool softener 2 days before the surgery, i only start my veterinarian diet. My wound is so sore and painful after the BM. I had my second one this morning, wasnt that painful like the first one but it did hurt. I cant move around much,it hurt so much after, so i just say in bed.I am typing with my laptop on my belly. i will write more next time
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Hi guys! This thread helped me SO much before my surgery, so I just wanted to briefly share my story in hopes that I can help anyone who is considering this surgery. Just for reference, I am 34-years-old and in very good health. I have given birth to 2 children (1 vaginally with an episiotomy and 1 via c-section).
I had my surgery on 06/14/2011. I had 2 internal and 2 external removed (fairly large) in a traditional hemorrhoidectomy. I did have stitches. The surgery itself went fine. I had general anesthesia and was able to go home pretty much immediately after surgery. Well, they did make me pee first, but I knew this beforehand, so I was prepared. I had to go immediately after I woke up, so that went fine. Pretty much as soon as I got home I started feeling pain. I was taking 2 Percocets every 5-6 hours. I never let the pain get ahead of me, and I think this is really important. The pain from the surgery itself wasn't that bad. What WAS bad was that first BM 2 days later. I had been taking my Colace and MiraLax, but I was still a little bit constipated from the anesthesia (yes, anesthesia constipates you terribly). I had read on here that some people actually had to have a BM in the tub, which I thought was disgusting and something I would NEVER do......well, never say never. The only way I could pass any stool at all was in the bathtub while laying on my side. It was gross, but I finally passed that first BM and was so relieved. It hurt like holy hell, and you do get hot, sweaty, heart beats fast, etc. You will survive, though. I think day 5 was the day I wanted to die. Again, it wasn't pain from the surgery, but the BM. At that point, I just layed in the tub and cried. The burning was so intense, it felt like a branding iron was up your butt. Seriously. But again, I hung in there, and the pain did subside after about 10 minutes in a very warm tub. By day 7 I was off all painkillers except for Motrin. I was eating normally and having normal bowel movements.
I am now 2 weeks out (as of yesterday), and I can honestly say I feel about 95% well. There is still very slight pain with a BM, but nothing major. I am still hopping in the shower to rinse off after each one, but it doesn't take long. I actually had "romantic time" with my husband on day 11. :) The first few days WILL be hard and WILL be painful, but if you follow your doctor's orders, I honestly don't see why in the world it would take 2 months to recover from this. I only took 2 days off of work. I will say that I, like many others, have what looks to be an external hemorrhoid still there..... but I have my post-op checkup this Friday, so we will see what he says. Hopefully, it is just swelling. If not, I am going to be one upset lady!!!
In all, I think it will be worth it. If your hemorrhoids have been giving you trouble, I say just bite the bullet and do it. You will be glad you did in the long run.
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