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What is a 2.5 fistula? For me the fistula is a hole in my rectum wall, with a getting larger fistula tract leading to the surface of my right butt cheek. Very disgusting as fecal matter, puss and blood come through constantly. Are we talking about the same thing here because if a cream can heal up this constantly bombarded tract, that is a miricle. G-Man.

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Hi,



Sorry I meant to say 2.5 cm fistula (about an inch long). In my case the fistula never made it to the outer bum cheek but with time it would have.



In the case of fistulas they heal each one manually. The approach is similar to how they heal an absess (e.g., in grown hair that has become severely infected). When I had this happen to me the nurse had to come to my home every day for 10 days repack the hole or wound. NATCM does the same thing but the fact that they have to do this with fecal matter flying by is how the earn the stripes.



The proprietary creams are magical in themselves but the daily treatment protocol is equally noteworthy.



In case you didn't know, the Chinese government considers the family a "national treasure". These people are the real deal.



Good luck.



P.S. If you take the treatment please let me know how it goes. I really feel for your pain.
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Thank you. It is a pain and discomfort I have been living with for the last 10 yrs and now I cannot continue this way and something must be done.
Next week I am meeting with a specialist in Calgary to discuss ways to cut out the fistula. Not a very high success rate not to mention the painful recover. I am greatly leaning towards NATCM.

I will definitely keep you posted.

Just a side note here: It is somewhat interesting that you have replied to my posts. I was planning on calling you tomorrow. I would assume many have tracked you down?

Thank you again.

Geoff. (G-Man)
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Thank you. It is a pain and discomfort I have been living with for the last 10 yrs and now I cannot continue this way and something must be done.
Next week I am meeting with a specialist in Calgary to discuss ways to cut out the fistula. Not a very high success rate not to mention the painful recover. I am greatly leaning towards NATCM.

I will definitely keep you posted.

Just a side note here: It is somewhat interesting that you have replied to my posts. I was planning on calling you tomorrow. I would assume many have tracked you down?

Thank you again.

Geoff. (G-Man)


In the end the decision is yours but surgery is a very bad move now that you know NATCM exists. I too was leaning towards surgery for my condition but as soon as I found out about natcm I knew I had to exhaust my non-invasive options first.

The single biggest obstacle to a westerner's road to optimum health and wellness is our thinking. We've been conditioned over the last 50 years or so to look at medicine as a risky endeavor and that we should happy that the docs are willing to do anything at all. Western docs have low success rates couple with a myriad of side effects and compromises and we still say thank you in the end. Did you know that in traditional Chinese culture the patient expects to be completely cured. If there was ever a world series of medical treatment where the objective would be to cure the patient completely then our docs would not even bother to show up.

I have a brand new rear courtesy of the NATCM and the Chen family. There are many, many more just like me.

I feel blessed and hope you make the right decision. I feel the need to "pay it forward" my good fortune. 

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P.S. When I went through my treatment, there was much less pain than the actual condition itself. Each day got better and better. Just the thought of the excruciating pain and recovery time (assuming there is any success at all) is enough to make me shudder.

Take care and good luck.

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Hello,

Update and progress, etc. I'm getting much better....in little bits every day. It is not completely gone yet (2 internal hems, 2 external hems, 1 anal fissure, and a polyp), but it is most certainly healing. It is now following the typical course for a wound.

I mostly wanted to comment to G-Man. I did not have fistula, so I cannot comment on that. However, as I said above, I took the chance at the Vancouver clinic and it was a good gamble. During the first visit, they will examine you, tell you their diagnosis, explain the treatment they would undertake, and the cost. You can decide at that time to go home, or to sign the agreement.

They guarantee the treatment plan at that cost for five years. Give the efficacy rates, I recommend it highly. Everyday, there were a myriad of people coming in for a variety of issues. Everyone I spoke to indicated they were getting better. I keep in touch with several folks I met in the waiting room everyday. They are each also healing. I am healing.

It was painful. But I did not have to undergo surgery, with its permanency and the possibility of many additional issues caused.

Anyway, if you decide to go and have additional questions about the clinic, or staying in town (it's actually in Burnaby), let me know...I'll share my experience.

Good luck!!!
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Well CB,
I hold the same view on Western Medicine as you and I have done the research on the gruesome operations that do not seem to fix the problem. I think you pretty much summed it up with, "I knew I had to exhaust my non-invasive options first." I am totally not into pain and do not want to make a bad situation worse.

So my plan will be to jet out one day soon and get them to give me an evaluation at NATCM and go from there. I am a teacher and the school year just started but let me tell you, i am so tempted to drop everything and get this started! My life is ticking.

It appears you may have attempted to leave a phone # on this website but the "Moderator" says they have edited it?

Thanks again for your words of confidence. I pray this works. As you see on here a person by the name of Sheckum? is presently in treatment and it is going well. Now I am very anxious.

Namaste.
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Thank you Sheckum,
I live north of Calgary so I will go out there and get an examination done in a week or so, and I would like to talk to you about the best places to stay in Burnaby once the time comes. Please keep us updated!

G-Man.
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Hi Natcm people,
Well, I've decided I'm going to fly out to the Vancouver clinic this weekend for an evaluation. From there I will determine whether to start therapy next month or in the new year, or not at all?

The clinic there put me in contact with a patient who had a simialr fistula and from her info and you guys it seems like I gotta try it.

One question for cbello or martinv or Sheckum or anyone who has gone there; Are you litterally bed riddent for 4 weeks? Can you go out and exercise or whatever? Or are you to afraid of stuff oozing out of you? Or even worse, are constant bowel movements involved?

Hmm, lots of questions.
Thanks.
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The procedure takes all of 15-20 minutes a day. Depending on your condition, they insert a salve into the rectum held in by what I believe to be a cotton tissue of some sort. Once this is done each day, you are not allowed to defecate...otherwise the procedure must be done again. So..do your thing in the morning prior to going to the clinic. Nothing oozes out of you. You are free each day to do whatever you like although I wouldn't suggest exercising. Walking is fine. There is no pain..but initially there may be a little discomfort. No constant bowel movements are involved. Depending upon the extent of your condition will determine how many days you will be at the clinic. This is the one negative but worth it when you consider the complications of surgery , the pain and the re-occurance rate of hemorrhoids.
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Thanks Martin,
I'm sure wishing I lived in Vancouver. It's a long way to go but not as far as you had to travel. I think the tough part will be finding a place to stay.

Cheers.
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Hi G-Man,



Martin did a great job explaining what you can expect during the treatment process.



For me, one of life's little pleasures is getting emails from people like yourself that were initial doubtful of the NATCM and then discovering that they made the right decision after completing the treatment. I can't wait to "read" the smile on your face.



P.S. I just cannot express with words how great I feel as a result of the NATCM. I have an absolutely brand new rear end with no compromises, courtesy of the Chens. And, I am not alone I know of countless others that have experienced the same joy.



Keep us up to date on your progress. Follow their instructions and protocol to the letter. That's what I did. Also, I was very careful to not aggravate the area in any way for a period of about of month after the formal end of the treatment. What I mean is that I make a conscious effort to keep my stools "ice cream" soft so that the newly created skin could have time to thicken and desensitize.
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Cbello, I sure hope you're right. I'm getting a few people saying this is nuts. And I will be spending my last dime on this as well.

But then there are people in my life that are saying go for it. I live in a small town in Alberta and there is one woman here who practices Traditional Chinese Medicine, i was going to her for accupuncture. Interestingly enough she has heard of the chen family and new about them. So I'm taking that as a good sign.

I'll be going to the clinic on Monday and then flying home that night. After the evaluation I am hoping i will be sure of when I will start therapy. I'm unsure right now whether to wait until November or January or even being a school teach, waiting until summer. But there is a voice inside of my head saying, 'the sooner the Better". The big thing freakin me out now is where to stay? I'm hoping that will present itself if Vancouver.

thank you all again, I sure need this problem gone so I can start enjoying life again!
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I understand your doubts. Westerners have been programmed to have doubts and mistrust about medical treatments because with few exceptions we have been programmed to accept mediocrity and limited success. There is nothing more that either me or Marty can say. At this point the best you can do is take a leap of faith.



If you can hold out to the summer then do so. This will put a lot less stress on you time- and money-wise. Keep in mind that you may need to stay longer depending on your specific circumstances so give yourself the time to heal.
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Well guys, I just returned from Vancouver. It turns out i have 2 fistula tracks going on here. The Doctor said it would be foolish to wait. The cost: $12,000. My jaw hit the floor. But what do you do when you finally meet a doctor that tells you they can heal up this kind of thing in a few months, guaranteed? She told me she has healed peoples fistulas that they have had for 16 and 20 yrs. Wow. See cbello, I took a leap of faith and had a "treatment". The doctor gave me some cream and herbs to take home and after I get my affairs organized here in Alberta I will be heading back to Van, ASAP. I am positive. I just want this to start. I'm very anxious though and have much to organize here before I go. What a crazy trip this livin is? I'll post the journey on here just for something to do. Haven't heard from that Sheckum again? I wonder how he is doin. Maybe we'll meet in Van. Cheers!

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Hello, I didn't want to do a post here until I did my follow-up appointment with the NATCM Dr.  It was 3 months ago when I had my internal and external(stage 4) taken care of by the NATCM Dr. Allison in Burnaby(city right beside Vancouver, a few minutes drive).  I really should go back after a month of the last treatment but I was feeling great so I just waited until I had time.  She check me today and I was totally healed and told me to go back in a year to follow-up. 

Anyways, I have been on this website for the last couple of years reading people's horror stories about their hemorrhoids surgeries, got me scared, I cancelled 2 surgery appointments.  My hemorrhoids are so bad and bleeding so much I became anemic. 

Then I read about NATCM here and also on a local paper as well and decide to just go for it.  I am SO, SO glad I did.  It was not painful but did pinch a bit each time I went for the 5 minute treatment.  But I was able to go to work each day, except 1 day when they did a bigger treatment.  That day, I stayed home.  My treatment was 3 weeks.  I live only a few blocks away and I was able to walk home after each treatment. But talking to people on waiting room, people come all over Canada and US.  I guess I was lucky to live so close.

Today, I am hemorrhoids FREE and no more bleeding at all.  I am really amazed at the result. I feel for the people that is still deal with hemmorhoids but at least you know NATCM does work.  I feel like telling the whole world how good this place is as I don't think many people know about this place yet, but I am glad that MartinV put his story here.  That's is one of the reason I went to Natcm, is 'cause I read about his story here and gave me confidence to go.  Thanks MartinV, I think your story help lots of people.

take care everyone.

J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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