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I love the brutal honesty in this post! For me, yes there's withdrawals when you stop ANYTHING!!! This pill is no different. But the physical WD for me lasts 4-5 days (day 1 and day 5 being not that bad), so mostly RLS at night, and chills of a few days. I take 4/day (10 mg., 325). I think it's ridiculous though that so many people go on and on about how bad it is, which only scares off the people who aren't taking 10-15 a day so are not about to get the same WD symptoms. I say, just chop the head off of the addiction and prepare yourself for the flu! You'll live
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That person is lucky they only have a touch of RLS lol, keep on taking the c**p wait till you have fiull body and brain RBS (restless body and brain syndrome...poor lost soul
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Itll end soon! Just dont take anymore i went through the same thing. Opiates are a poison you can do this youll be back to normal in no time
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I'm am a 39yo male. I had a 6 year addition to hydrocodone. I had always woried about stopping because I expected horrible withdrawals. 3 weeks ago, after admitting everything to my family, I stopped cold turkey. To my total and utter surprise, I have had no withdrawal systems, accept for a mild headache that I took Advil for. No RLS, no runny poo, no flu or runny nose. It's now 3 weeks in,,, I get cravings, but why did I not have withdrawl symptoms. Is there something wrong with me?
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Hi everyone, I've recently quit taking vicodin and I wanted to share my experience. I've been abusing vicodin for close to 13 years. I'd been in the same situation about 20 years ago (hard to believe) and only started again the night my Dad died. Thank goodness I was vicodin free the three years he was sick (cancer) and I was able to help my Mom care for him. We had a vicodin rx for him but I was never once tempted until he lay dying. I'm a Daddy's girl and I just decided I needed to be fortified that night. Stupid. But that started the addiction again. Not that vicodin ever really made anything better. Seriously, I never felt great when I was taking it, it just felt like kind of a shield. For family gatherings, or social occasions I felt like I would enjoy it only if I had vicodin. My rx was for 5/325. I never took more than one at a time but I've taken up to 10 in a day. After so many years, I don't think I felt anything from them except the comfort of swallowing the pill. It was like being a smoker I think. For years I've been so paranoid of planning a trip somewhere, I always timed my travel to periods when I knew I'd have a refill ready. It could get pretty complicated. And now, lately, there are the new restrictions and doctor's starting to write less and the writing was pretty much on the wall. I had been getting 120 pills a month and another 60 that were rx'd for my Mom. She never took them so I refilled them once a month and considered them mine. Over the last few months, my doctor and her doctor have started reducing the number of refills. My own doctor cut my refill to 60 for 30 days, my mom's doctor cut her refills too. I guess I've been pondering the problem for a few months and when my supply was running low this past two weeks and I had another 2 weeks before I could expect a refill I just started dosing down. I was just sick of it but of course terrified of withdrawals. When I quit 20 years ago it was cold turkey and I was just freaked out. I started seeing a therapist, got acupuncture and got antidepressants. I was miserable for a couple of weeks but slowly got better and happy again. This time I took 1/2 a pill twice a day and than once a day and then my last 1/2 pill was sunday. It's tuesday and I've yet to feel bad. Full disclosure, I've been taking effexor and wellbutrin for a few years and also some xanax and ambien. I've been taking some of the supplements recommended in the Thomas recipe too. But I'm puzzled that I don't feel worse. Maybe part of it is that I think about all the hassle of getting the rx refills and for what. No reward, no feeling good just being sort of a slave. When I think about the future I just feel like why would I want to continue when the pills don't even make me feel good anymore? I'm guessing that tapering down made a really big difference for me, along with the antidepressants and taking a tiny bit of xanax a few times a day. I don't like the tired feeling I get from the xanax (thinking about what I believed to be the energetic feeling I got from vicodin) but I think I was freaking myself out a bit about withdrawals and maybe it helped. And, my mother's doctors office called yesterday to say her refill is ready. I can remember how relieved it used to make me feel to hear that. I would drive to the docs office feeling sort of jittery until I had the rx in my hand. I'm not going to pick it up. I'm calling to say she doesn't want to take it anymore. There's still no way I would feel confident having the pills in my possession. I'm emailing my doctor to tell her the same thing although I'm sure she was going to stop the refills eventually anyway. I don't know why I'm not sick and freaking out. I'm feeling lucky and just lucky I guess.

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I been off 7 wks and still not feeling myself hate thisdrug plus going through menopause dosnt help how long dose it take to feel like myself again?
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I have been on lorta. 10/225 for 5 years now find my self taking 2-3 at a time for the pain.i stopped cold turkey 2 days ago when my dr prescribed gabapentjn. It's taken the pain away And is not happier forming the pain in my back is pretty much gone. I had 5 bulging discs in my low back as far as withdrawal symptoms headaches have been the worar
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Do not take suboxone, it's every bit as bad, or worse than norco. It's bad stuff. Remember, "pain management doctors" just love people like us. Have to pay for, or the insurance, a doctor visit EVERY month for your prescription. It's a money maker for them. I am THE VOICE OF EXPERIENCE.
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One thing missing from this post not all people are the same.
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I have been taking 7.5-10mg total of vicodin daily for about 5 years (sometimes I skip a day or 2), I am ready to go cold turkey but scared of withdrawal symptoms, do you think they will be really bad? any advice is appreciated!
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Hi I.m dealing with it now 5 perday down to 4 perday after 15 years of the c**p. Can.t sleep hart hurts its a b***h.. It was good to reed your posting gives me hope.thx

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2 0r 3 a day is nothing . It is time for us to remember these meds were made to help relieve relentless pain. You don't need to feel guilty for using them anymore then a diabetic should feel bad for using insulin. I am so sick of people who compare medical usage of these very legitimate pain meds for pain control with people who take them to get high.
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I realize this is an old thread but if anyone else stumbles on it who is taking more than enough to get over 4,000mg of acetaminophen a day Google, learn, and USE the CWE!! Cold Water Extraction, it may save you a world of serious health problems. It easily removes most of the Tylenol (which in those doses can destroy your kidneys). Better to just not take that much but if you are... use the CWE.

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I don't know ~ I've tried everything to stop & nothing Works @ Two years 'INPATIENT" on Oahu , HAWAII , another year at "ALOHA HOSUE' on Maui ~ Clean in rehab BUT as soon as a friend came after I was released ,to pick me up , my friends ALWAYS brought something in the car that I could Never resist ~ Same with my babies , 9 M0's, clean & sober BUT after birth , I always asked for a strong pain medication from my hospital bed and got something for pain from the nurse ~ Today , still , I take nerco's on a daily bases~ My therapist finally believes that I really do NEED these pain medications & Xanax (24 release) * I hiked very much , on mountain trails and cliffs overlooking the Ocean ~ I have been fearless my entire life , I call it Stupid now but I have fallen many times and broke many bones ~ truly , I don't regret taking so many pills! if you're careful you can life a better life , quicker movements , fast problem solving ~ take the right dose , never more than 1 pill every 6 hours ~ don't mix another substances with what your taking ~ People with low energy, low mobility ( their movements ) aches & pains , even depression opiates can improve every aspect of your life * Anti Anxiety medications & opiates help a person feel wonderful inside and out ~. Good Blessings Everybody MARCY

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