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Hi.
Good luck to all you people coming off co-codomol, i'm just starting to come off them now and googled to get advice and found this thread, best one ive seen after a while searching.
Anyway, co-codomol addiction 30/500 and coming off them is different per person. the withdrawal effects / seriousness - depends on the ammount of tablets you are taking per day and ALSO how many times a day.
I am a former heroin addict, i've been clean for 13 years now, and only used co-codomol for a work injury and have now been on them for 8 months (cut my finger off in work..), when i did a rehab and detox 13 years ago, i studdied addiction, cause, effect and anything i could find, just as a hobby.
i have since helped a few other people come off hard core addictions to heroin who have stayed clean almost as long as i have now, so, i do know what i am talking about.
I see some storys on here that will dissuade people from doing their withdrawal from this drug, but do not let it scare you. Some people on here say they have been taking upto 25-30 of these tablets per day..so they must be taking X amount of tablets X ammounts of times a day. This is CRAZY - and you should not cold turkey completely off that ammount of co-codomol..no matter what any so called Dr may say, it is foolish and dangerous and can effect you diversly.
You should instead
decrease you dose every couple of days and the ammount of times you take them till you get down to a reasonable ammount that will not really affect you badly when you start completely coming off them. set yourself goals, its realistic to drop down 1 tablet per day untill you get down to 3 or 4- so its not that bad..or you could do 1 tablet drop every 2 days, whatever your comftorable with.
once you get down to taking say 3 or 4 tablets a day ...you will be able to manage much better, you will start feeling normal again, another week and reduce to 2 or 3 once a day for a week, you will not suffer greatly this way but will still feel 'mild' withdrawal symptons.
after that...you can just stop them altogether and you will be all back to yourself again within 2 or 3 days though those 2 or 3 days may still give you withdrawal symptons, it will not effect you in the way a complete cold turkey would from stopping using such a high ammount.
well thats my advice for people on high doses, as for my own story..well i am only taking 3 per day now, i was on 8 taking 4 in the morning and 4 at night (not reccomended, but thats how i took them )
Once i no longer needed them for pain, i started coming off them, got down to 3 tablets, once a day within a week..with only a couple of days of mild withdrawal.
so here i am now taking 3 tabs once a day and its ok, need to do this for a week, then reduce to 2 tabs once a day for a few days then i'll stop completely...will get a couple days of mild withdrawals but i know it wont be bad as i've done it before, use diazepam for the last few days if your doc will give it you, most wont but some will...but be carefull as you dont want to substitute codine addiction for another addiction like diazepam / valium which is a b***h to come off too.
reading through this thread i guess im lucky that im only using a small dose, ive seen some posts on the net where people are taking 30-40- upto 50 tabs a day - which to me is ridicoulous and will be harder to come downfrom over short periods of time.
good luck to all who are coming off them, stay strong, it gets bettr and easier and you will be back to your normal self again and wonder why the hell you got into that mess in the first place.
maseoCain
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Will start again next wednesday with a gradual detox.
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good stuff 'sunny jim''. can i ask how many tabs a day your currently using??
i cut from 8 a day to 4 a day in less than a week, i start on 3 a day 2morrow.
i take my tabs in one dose in the morning rather than spread it out, this way i dont feel any withdrawals cutting down - even though by about 4 o clock the codine effect has worn off n i feel a bit lethargic...and getting insomnia, got 2 hours sleep last night..n im wide awake now at 1.30am in UK.
but at least doing this way i dont feel ill and the eventual cold turkey from 2 tabs in 7 days time wont be that bad....also, with using a taper method, you have more chance of not relapsing, cold turkey from high doses can lead to relapses soon after detox or half way through even :-/
have a plan A and a plan B - if plan A fails....goto plan B is my methodology - and my penis head doc wont give me any meds to help with withdrawals..i asked for ''valium'' and he looked at me like i just threatend to detonate a fkn bomb lol...he threw his hands in air and said...''10mg of valium for 4 days?? '' ''no, NO, i cannot give you valium''!!
he has no fkn idea of the effects of co-codomol withdrawal obviously.....he actuallty offered me paracetomol...??? the mind just boggles with these docs' who shove you on this medication without educating about it.
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took my dose of 3 about 40 mins ago - its working as its been 24 hours since last dose, so probably be ok till later this afternoon...but man i need sleep...my eyes are going all weird on me...like things look like their moving in my room LOL...will have to go and buy some valiums off a mate of a mate of a mate.....and some vitamins so im ready to go 'cold' at end of week...aiming for thursday now for last dose of 3..f**k 2...just do the deed off 3 cos i cant be assed waiting if im not sleeping.
hopefully wont be as bad or as prolonged this way....so glad i never upped to more than 8 tabs a day even though i really wanted too.....i knew it would just f**k me up more in the long run.....ahh well, nothing lasts forever - not even your problems :-D
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also, now i have these to help, im kickin it now....took my last dose of codomol 10 hours ago now and pointless taking more as they not holding me now im on 3 - so f**k it...lets get this sh*t over with.......kept having random outbursts of wanting to burst into tears today....felt achy by about 3 hours ago but popping a valium really helped........so day 1 starts tommorrow, will update my progress as i go on after using the fast taper method. stay strong people, you have turned a corner just finding this site.
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30 + hours in, not feeling really bad at mo, usual aches, pains, insomnia, and confusion from insomnia...valim helps but only gives you a breif respite but even an hour or 2 sleep is better than none and will help a lot....runny nose....not too bad but its only day 1.
see what tommorow brings
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Day 2 - 50 + hours in and i feel like sh*t hahaha...dunno why im laffing bout it, but no point crying...f**k me, last night..about 6 hours ago..the ''trips to the toilet started every 5 mins'' ...tummy on fire, aching like ive never known, flu like symptons but worse lol - lack of sleep makes you go nuts so i popped a valium n got another couple hours..deffo helps a lot...i can take the pain n depression cos i know its only temporary...but the lack of sleep is a living nightmare....f**k me your brain is so confused you find yourself ding strange things...like going for a pee...but instead of going to bathroom...ya end up in a different room...wondering ''what the f**k am i doing in here'' LOL...its just your brain going nuts cos a lack of sleep and no endorphines (bodys natural painkiller kicking in yet )
deffo helps to have supor - i got a few friends who phone or visit every day to se how i am...and man what a lift that gives you..if only breifely.
well gonna hav a nice hot bath now...then force myself to go for a walk along promenade to get fresh air....then force some soup down me.
toxins should be out of system now so im hoping 2moz will be the worst day and its all getting better then on in.....taper effect is really the best option even though you will withdraw still - once you get to cold tuyrkey, it will be a lot quicker..usually 5 days.
see ya 2 moz people..and even though its sh*t..force a smile and stay upbeat.
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Hi Cainm, You've done really well to get this far. Just remember, it WILL get better. Just stick with it. In a week's time you will feel like a different person. Hang in there xxx
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