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Hiya all....

I have been on these tablets for 4 years and ive ome off them twice before. i first had them when i had a lump taken out of my breast, and then for a ar acciedent i was in, and they were brilliant for the pain, but i then beame dependent on them and when i admitted this to the doctor 2 years ago he went on this right screaming fit (which im sure doctors arnt supposed to do!!! ) i then stopped taking them by cutting down and then stopping. When i was in this state i was forever accusing people of taking them when really i was taking them myself, its ruined 2 of my relationships but at the time i didnt care, all i cared about was taking them to feel better which really was a fake illness because if i had just stopped i would of been fine. I used to take up to 100 in a week, and blood test's showed i was fine so i thought my secret was safe till i admitted what i was doing.

But 6 months ago i hurt my back again while i was at work and doctors gave them me without batting an eye lid and there still giving them me now... Diffrence is now i no my limits and yet im getting the feeling im being drawn back in to the monster and i dont no if im strong enough yet to say nah i dont need these. I feel like its easy to just give in but hard to say no.. what should i do because the pain is still there but is it real pain or the codine talking.

I cnt sleep if i dont take them, and sometimes (and this is very rare) i often double dose without realising... well i do after cuz i have to lie down from feeling so sick.

Need advice do i stop or carry on ??
im only 22 and my life really shouldnt evolve round these drugs really... i feel as bad as a smack addict!!!

Thanks xx

p.s your post are very helpful which is why im posting today xx
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Hiya all....

I have been on these tablets (co-codamol 30/500) for 4 years and ive come off them twice before. i first had them when i had a lump taken out of my breast, and then for a car acciedent i was in, and they were brilliant for the pain, but i then beame dependent on them and when i admitted this to the doctor 2 years ago he went on this right screaming fit (which im sure doctors arnt supposed to do!!! ) i then stopped taking them by cutting down and then stopping. When i was in this state i was forever accusing people of taking them when really i was taking them myself, its ruined 2 of my relationships but at the time i didnt care, all i cared about was taking them to feel better which really was a fake illness because if i had just stopped i would of been fine. I used to take up to 100 in a week, and blood test's showed i was fine so i thought my secret was safe till i admitted what i was doing.

But 6 months ago i hurt my back again while i was at work and doctors gave them me without batting an eye lid and there still giving them me now... Diffrence is now i no my limits and yet im getting the feeling im being drawn back in to the monster and i dont no if im strong enough yet to say nah i dont need these. I feel like its easy to just give in but hard to say no.. what should i do because the pain is still there but is it real pain or the codine talking.

I cnt sleep if i dont take them, and sometimes (and this is very rare) i often double dose without realising... well i do after cuz i have to lie down from feeling so sick.

Need advice do i stop or carry on ??
im only 22 and my life really shouldnt evolve round these drugs really... i feel as bad as a smack addict!!!

Thanks xx

p.s your post are very helpful which is why im posting today xx
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hi.
i would like to thank perfect angel 4 her honest account.
i got put on codeine a yr ago for my stomach as i have problems and am now totally reliant on them.
Its not such that i take loads but if i find myself getting stressed i take them 2 relax.
the problem is at nite where i have 2 take at least 150mg just 2 relax of i dont sleep but now even that much doesnt work.
ive gone thru hundreds in thwe last few months and am terrified because i already have liver problems and have got 2 kids 2 think about.
I tried to come off them by cold turkey a cpl of days ago, the 1st nite was horrible cos i cudnt sleep and felt myself getting stressed,

By last nite (nite 2) i cudnt stop myself, it was 3am and i was on the verge of a panic attack and had the restless limbs and felt like crying that i gave in, but within minutes i felt myself relaxing and gradually slept.

But this morning i feel ashamed that i had given in and havnt dare tell my husband cos he will go nuts, i cudnt even get the kids 2 school.
Im scared of 2nite cos i just kno that im going 2 break and take them again, even now at 9am i want 2 take some but am trying really hard not 2.

I dont kno wot 2 do, i dont want 2 keep filling my already damged body with it but cant c a way out.
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Hello fellow sufferers.....I found this thread by Perfect Angel a little while ago when I in desperation startred my cold turkey experience and it helped me no end. Most things are kinda covered in the replies and posts but I'll throw my little bit in...

If your looking for help here you've obviousley made your mind up to start your journey.. Like all of us you will start Day 1 with hope and a good outlook...Brilliant...Hold that thought your gonna need it...Day 2 is when the fun ( NOT ) starts! Codiene stays in your system for about 72 hurs so Day 1 will not be too bad... For the next 3-4 days your gonna get all the physical symtpoms that are listed in earlier posts...

Cravings
Muscle/bone pain
Restlessness
Goose bumps
Involuntary leg/arm movements
Sweating
Insomnia
Nausea/vomiting
Depression

Please be strong because it realy does get better and each step is a stride up that hill to recovery...

The thing I want to stress is that I know how bad, Low, Desperate and anxious you will feel...Especially when you cannot sleep and the paranoia kicks in.....Please..Please hang on because with each minute that passes you are healing....

The thing we have to know is that in taking these little white soldiers of death we have altered our brain and bodies chemistry and like a house battered in a storm we need to re-build it with time and the right stuff...You need to drink plenty of water and eat as much fresh fruit and veg as you can...also if you can take a good multi-vitiman, fish oils and milk thistle....Also depending on how you feel try to exercise as much as you can from going to a gym or even just walking...

At the moment I am on Day 14 I get tired in the afternoon a bit and that little shitty voice keeps saying "go on take a couple and see what happens" I know this is just my mind trying to take the easy way out ( It's a natural thing.... I won't give in as i've come to far... This is the only things i'm suffering with at the moment...There is no exact cut off point where we will suddenly feel 100% better , I know this will take a few months but if you can HOLD ON to survive the first week then it realy is a lot easier honest....I cannot realy put into words how the 1st 4 days feel as i'm sure you'll find out...If you can find a support friend or anyone to lean on do so, every little helps...BE STRONG.....It's a rocky road but after the initial withdrawal the world becomes crisper and real and your mind will focus on living a proper life.......!!!!!!!!! STICK WITH IT...........It'S ALL A WAITING GAME NOW......YOU WILL LOOK BACK AND FEEL PROUD IF YOU HANG ON IN THERE.............!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kerrie: you must tell your family whats wrong with you, atleast your spouse and parents. You need support and someone to make sure you are okay! Your addiction happens to a lot of people, all sorts of people. My mothers a lawyer and my dad is the superintendent of the company that just built a multimillion dollar VW plant. They are not the kinda of people that approve! but when i told them i needed help i was shocked at their reaction! they did not judge they were glad i didnt get help without them. If u have insurance just ask your doctor for Suboxone. This would do wonders for you and have nearly 0 wd symptoms. but you cannot take any thing with it or youll go into immediate withdrawel. Im gonna be honest its gona suck, i mean be really bad! But it will end, and your life will stablize! AS far as moving- ur not gona be able to move all ur stuff alone. again tell those closest to you that your trying to quit yur habit, not that you have one! Holding the secret makes wd symptoms seem worse, im at work right now and i feel so paranoid that everyone knows! But they dont, and never will. If you can get ahold of benzos (xanax, kolonopin,valium) and take just to sleep it will help, but they are addictive too, however they do not get up "up" like pain killers. Take enuff to enduce sleep, and you will feel better! if you cant find those, benadryl and cold meds take the edge off pretty well, as long as tylenol or ibuprofen. But its gona suck! So dont try to fool urself into thinking it wont be bad bc ur not a "junky" that has nothing to do with it. Just dont turn to otehr pain killers!

U r not alone. Opiod addiction is the most common of all. Most addicts do not know they are addicts til they try to quit! But doing it off that is way easier the turning to others, such as methadone. Ive been off methadone for 3 days now and its horrible. But yesterday was way worse than today. For opiate pail relivers with codine, wd symptioms last 2-3days, half the time of methadone or stronger opiods! Just be patient and wait it out. its all you can do!
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Plan B tried cold turkey the last few days but between no sleep and feeling like I have the flu. I went ahead and refilled my last and final script of 40 10/500 Lortab and going to work my down from 4 per day to 1 daily then Cold Turkey. Also at the end of the month I can get a refill on a script for Xanax to help. Should have planned this better to start with :-D
Has anyone used Blood Pressure med Clonidine to help with the withdraw symptoms??
I've been taking the Lortab for about a year. Had back surgery, Micro-Discotomy in Oct 09, and most problems have been solved by the surgery. Now it is time to get off these Lortabs. Tried to stop just after
Christmas but it was too soon, still was having post-surgery pain I guess.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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Slipped and fell down on some ice and in much pain ! Back on the Lortab for a week or two.
Low back and left shoulder/neck pain. What a life !
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I am not going to hide my name, I am not proud to be an addict but I think the first step is to admit to myself that I have a problem.

Hi all

Please bear with me, the start of this post doesn't seem to have anything to do with codine - I try to explain my situation in the hope that it helps people understand just what an EVIL drug this is.

I am a married man 47 years old, 3 kids in fact everything that I should be happy about.

I have been taking Solpadol (Co-Codamol) 30 /500 for about 15 years now. I don't take anywhere near as much as some people on here, typically 3 a day, morning, lunch and night, but I have been doing this regularly for the entire 15 years.

Recently I have been extremely anxious and nervous, my doctor tried ALL the SSRI's and even the new SSNI's but NOTHING would touch the anxiety, and I mean anxiety that is so bad I couldn't even walk around the house, never mind go out of the front door. My Doc refused to prescribe Benzodiazipines as theses "are addictive and lose effect after a short period". Finally about 2 months ago my Doc tried one of the new Tetracyclic anti depressants (Mirtazipine) which started to ease the anxiety and eventually after about 6 weeks I felt much more "free" than I had been in years. Then I had to go into Hospital for an operation, nothing serious only day surgery, I should of been able to face this but I couldn't, by the day of the surgery I was a complete mess again. I went through the surgery and have been a complete mess (again) ever since - 11 days to date since the surgery - everything seems to be healing and I have had NO PAIN at all. 2 Days ago I went to the kitchen and prepared a Solpadol and all of a sudden, and literally just like being hit by a train, I had an awful thought, it occurred to me to ask myself WHY I was taking painkillers, I hadn't had ANY pain from the surgery and I certainly wasn't in pain at that particular time. I then got to thinking how long I had been taking Solpadol (Co-Codamol) and as an extension of that how long I had been in pain, it was then that I realised that I am addicted to these things, I can't remember even why I was prescribed them in the 1st place, I also realised they had been giving me an artificial "high" for as long as I could remember.

I ran into this site by accident and am really heartened by the stories of those people who have beaten this, most of you seem to have MUCH WORSE withdrawal symptoms than I do and I think you have done a great job by beating this. For me this is the second day I haven't taken any and I am determined to stop cold turkey, fortunately I am able to sleep and I haven't had (much) loss of appetite.

I intend to start a campaign to make Doctors AND patients aware of this terrible drug and to educate people on the possibility of addiction. Addiction with this drug seems to "creep up" on you and you don't even realise until it's WAY to late, then you get stuck with these horrible withdrawal symptoms. To that end can I ask what symptoms you have had as a result of withdrawal, to start out I will list my own symptoms below, I would like to compile an extensive list of withdrawal symptoms so that I can discuss this with my Doctor who wants to help run an educational website in relation to addiction to codine. It would be much better if it could ONLY be prescribed short term as most people only seem to need it this way, obviously there are people who do need it long term, but the long term repeat prescription / easy availability seem to fuel the way this drug gets you addicted in the first place.

My Withdrawal symptoms are as below:-

Terrible anxiety - I feel very anxious although I can't think of any reason for it
Confusion - Feeling very confused, as though I have been concentrating really hard, and suddenly have taken a break
Runny Nose - Blowing my nose 15-30 times a day and never seem to be able to get it all (Yuck :-) )
Chills - Feel like I am shaking from INSIDE almost like the centre of my chest / abdomen is freezing cold (IT isn't)
Hot sweating - I feel really hot but my temperture is normal
Bad Stomach - Stomach cramps, the runs, always feeling like I need to go to the loo.
Dizziness - sometimes when I stand I feel like I am going to faint.
Depression - comes and goes but sometimes REALLY REALLY bad.


I have been lucky with the sleeping side of it as I explained above.

I hope that people can add to this list so we can have a comprehensive list of withdrawal symptoms, especially for people like me who worry about every little ache / pain they get, it might also help other people who want to quit, as there seem to be VERY few sources of information for this drug.

I am just at the begining of the road and I hope I can find the strength to quit, I still have over 400 tablets here and I will not throw them out, I need to be able to resist the temptation to prove something to myself.

My best wishes to everyone who is struggling with this horrible addiction. I really hope you manage to quit.

Interestingly the manufacturers website list the half life of Solpadol (Co-Codamol) as 12 - 72 hours. The half life is the amount of time it takes for a drug to completely get out of your system from the last dose. So aftr a maximum of three days it's gone, shame they don't tell you how long the withdrawal lasts!

Steve
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Hello I recently brunt my hand pretty badly (1 week ago) and I was put onto these co codomals
I always thought co codomals was just like a stronger paracetomal because my gran has been taking them for absolutly years for her artheristic but shes on 8mg. When I first took them (Which I had to take 2 every 4-6 hours) they about knocked me out I had to go lie down I could not understand this, I also did not know there was different strengths, I continued to take 2 at a time but ot
really made me feel like sh*t so I have cut down on them as much as possible then I decided to read more up on them.

I was shocked to find there like a down grade from morphine and I had pretty much half the side effects then after reading this I am kind of worried about my grandma with her been taking them for about 6 years, would 8mg really effect her as much as some of these posts, I know 4 of hers is equiverlant to one of mine. I am very glad I have found this as I never get side effects from tablets but did with these, one tablet dont give me any side effects and after reading this I dont think I am going to touch them with a barge pole again until my hand is in absolute agony, and worst part is I couldnt drink for st paddys day!! GAH!

Post in a nutshel: Should I be worried about my grandma?

Cheers - Owl xXx
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it is hard, lets all accept that

So now the cures

try wean yourself of, if you want to do ct then lets do it!

Wean will help u cope as u r not going frm large amounts tp zero

I was on between 100mg to 900mg a day, then one day saw all this life wold do would end it shorter, am married ,kids, so i decided to tell a dr, he gave me sm advice,said to wean off, but i thot "na"

Get thru 3/4 days and it is over mostly, help is at hand with valerian at night to relax, black cohosh for the hot flushes, night nurse or benydryl cough mixture to knock u out whre poss, then brufen 400mg for restless legs and muscle spasms, hot shower to egt you thru the real bad shivers,hot bath is also good, laods of water, just think of it in 6hr segments, take the morning and say you will get to 2pm and then shwer, then watch tv, read book, i read quotes and how people have srength within, then hr later have shower,come towards bed,take night nurse and ko for a while, when up , go online and read, learn, and then wen tired,sleep a bit, get up morning and shower, then film, then read, shower, 3 days is hard, but u can do it if u want 8-| shaunyninja
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Hi, Im only 20 years old and I have been on kapake (co-codomol) 30/500 since I was 14. I had serious spinal injuries and had an operation 4 years ago. I was never told about possible addiction and i only realised I had a problem just over a year ago.
It was a saturday night and i had run out ov painkillers but didnt think anythin ov it, but by the next morning i could barely move.. i didnt think it was the painkillers at first but soon came to realise it was. I called a friend and told him, that my back was playing up and treally needed some painkillers so he drove to the chemist and got me some, within half an hour i was fine.
I work full time and cant afford the time off to quit taking them, if i slowly cut down from my normal 10 a day would i get these withdrawal symptons??
Also i stil hav back problems... i jus cant see a way to stop taking them because as well as being addicted, i still need them for my injuries, im even due bak in hospital to see if i need more surgery in 2 weeks.
I'm so worried what they are doing to my body, does any1 no any pain relief that isnt addictive so i can stop the kapake ??
I feel angry I wasnt warned about this and that they are soo easy to get on prescription
I need help, i dont want them to rule my life
Thanks x

Today is the first time iv read up on this and its really scared me but everyones posts hav been intersesting and im sure if people can do it after 10, 20 years im sure i can with a little help xx
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Hey Owl.
I started out just like you, being given these pills for a medical problem without any long term advice 9 years ago and I still have a repeat script for them each month even though my problem cleared up years ago.....

I admit I have abused these horrrible things for a long time and it is a very slippery slope once it spirals out of control and believe me it is very easy ( almost overnight) you can fall in love with the feeling it gives you. ) The problems start when the proper amount you take does'nt do anything anymore and you have to take more or the right amount just to stave the withdrawals...

My advice my friend is to stop now before like many of us go way to far...If you can taper of them slowly and when rid of them never look back or go cold turkey but prepare yourself for it( I guess the longer you are on them and how you are in age and fitness helps in this )

As for your Gran , well as long as they do what they are intend for and she never ups her dosage without the Docs advice then I guess she'll be o.k...

Older people I think tend to do things right and have genuine reasons ( Usually long term.!!) plus addicts don't take 8mg's for long without trying to coax something a lot stronger from the Doctor or taking dangerous amounts ( Up to 70 pills a day..!!!) after buying them over the counter ( 12.5mg is the most you can buy at a pharmacist in the u.k..)

So be strong and ditch these before you fall foul of this curse!!!!!! Also try and find out exactly how much your gran is taking, if it is the prescribed amount then i guess it's under control!!!

P.s I went cold turkey a couple of months ago and after the initial shitty nightmare of a week when you think the world was gonna end it gradually slowly gets better..( Still have bad days but feel back in the real world and life is 100% better..feel normal again , not a slave to those pills...) I went cold turkey as I could'nt trust myself to taper off them and was alone in my problem..

Good luck and need any advice I'm sure there are quite a few on here who will help you...!!!

Castiel.
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I would just like to congratulate all of you that realise you have a problem, that is the first step to recovery.

I am proud of you for posting your experiences which help others.

Thank you.

I wish you luck.

I was just prescribed 30/500 today. I usually just take the 8/500 when I need them, and my slow release diclofenac 75mg. I have muscloskeletal problems, and I am having a bad flare up, using the stronger pain killers in the interim whilst the GP and I pinpoint exactly what is happening.

I am a nurse and I like to think I know what I'm doing, so I hope to keep on top of the pain without becomming addicted.
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Hi everyone,

Ive been reading every single on of these posts and its amazing how many people you can relate to just by coming to this forum.

I started Codiene years ago for knee problems and got hooked to the feeling it gave me. I cant remember how many i was taking but enough to have pretty bad withdrawals when i realised i needed to stop taking it the first time. Ive repeated the same mistake and been on and off it midly ever since until the last 8 months ive let it got way out of control, worse then ever before. I would wake up every day feeling like c**p, lethargic, muscle soreness joint soreness feeling down so i turned to the codiene again which I had stopped taking about 5 months before that(no withdrawals was low doses). I could barely function and i desperately needed something to get me through the day so i turned to nurofen plus. Well it helped! What i realise now is i have depression and most likely the chemical reaction codeine has on your brain seemed to stop those depressive symptoms for me. I was loving it getting up every day popping a few then off I went to work. Each week would go past and i would take 8 in one go in the morning, another 10 on my break at work, another 6 again afternoon break at work another 10 at nighttime, every day i would do this, more and more, taking over 50 tablets a day. My family knew and my partner found out and they told me if i dont get off it they will seek professional help (rehab, because ive been on and off it for so long). So cold turkey i went. I went to the DR first and she has given me anti depressants so hopefully they will kick in soon and bring me to normal as the codiene withdraws from my body,

Its day 6 today and yes feeling so much better!Most feeling lethargic at the moment. Day 2,3 and 4 were the worst! I could barely move, i didnt even feel like doing anything, not even watching tv, all i could do was lie there it was such a horrible feeling. I was constantly goin to the toliet over 10 times a day, lost my appetite, couldnt sleep, legs were aching that bad, aggitation, feeling hot, crying non stop! Feeling lethargic. Yes even sneezing a few times, headaches were horrible.

For anyone goin thru this please make sure u have someone or people to support you you shouldnt do this alone. This was by far the the worst withdrawals compared to the first time, probably due to the more intake of the codiene.
I will never put myself in the situation again its not worth it.
BE STRONG, TELL YOURSELF YOU CAN DO IT AND YOU WILL!
Good luck everyone my thoughts are with you.
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hi everyone. ive been taking painkillers for a little under 1 year. I first started to take them because i hurt myself at work and i needed something to ease the pain. They were working very well for me. Ater my injury healed i still found myself taking them. i kept taking them cause they made me feel good. I was taking two 10mg percosets a day. After a while two of them wernt cutting the way i wanted to feel. So i started to eat more of them a day. i was up to 5 a day. Later on i was introduced to roxys. Man i thought it was the best thing on earth. So i started to take them like candy. I was taking about 3-4 roxys a day. I found myself very hooked on them and felt myself changing. I became very lazy. I didnt want to do anything with myself. Just wanted to take them and relax. I was sleeping way too much, anywhere from 10-13 hrs a day without waking up. People started to notice i wasnt the same person. I wasnt hanging out as much, when people called me to hang out, i would just brush them off and make excuses like im tired or busy. This was going on for about 2 months. Then i found myself not drinking or eating as much as i used to. I started to lose weight. I am a skinny person as it is. I lost about 8-10 pds. People started to ask if i was ok, wow you lost weight, your too skinny, you look sick. And i just made any excuse up. Week after week people kept on saying and asking these things to me. Finally i got fed up and came to my senses."IM ADDICTED". So i really want to stop what im doing to myself. So i started to do my research on how to quit and how to deal with the withdrawls. I know its not going to be easy. I read a lot of ways to try quting. So one of the ways was to cut the amount down every 3 days. I chose this method cause i think its going to be easier then just stopping cold turkey right away. I was taking 3-4 roxys a day. so as of now im on day 6 and im taking 2 a day. I feel fine so far. I still know the worse has yet to come. Tomorrow i will be taking 1 1/2. I will take that about for 3 days, then i will take 1 for 3 days, and then a half for 3 days. Praying to god after the halfs are done the withdrawls arent as bad. I have lots of willpower and thinking very positive. I know the withdrawls are horrible. i read lots of peoples posting on them. I prepared myself if i have them. I bought advil PM for trouble sleeping, imodium ad for the runs, vitamins for energy, ensure drinks if i cant eat, case of water so i can take in lots of fluids. thats about it. Im not going to take any pill of get these painkillers. I might even smoke pot if the withdrawls are that bad. I never liked somking pot, but if it helps then im going too. I read lots of these summarys on here and i feel the peoples pain. I feel much better about myself after posting this up. I will keep posting how everything is going for myself and how im feeling. So thats about it. If anyone has any advice for me please feel free, I would love taking it. Best of luck to everyone and wish me luck.
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