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GRANTED ,I HAVE OTHER MEDICAL PROBLEMS,BUT THINK THE STAPLES IS MY LARGEST PROBLEM...WHY WON'T THEY JUST LISTEN?
ARLENE
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jemi wrote:
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Surgical clips are completely normal and are used (and left in) in many, many types of surgeries. They are made of titanium which is hypoallergenic, non-rusting, doesn't set off metal detectors, and isn't affected by an MRI machine. They are left in to keep blood vessels and various ducts closed after organ removal because otherwise you would bleed out. There are lots of reasons you may have pain in or around a previous surgical site, but the clips are not likely the cause. The reason you may not have been informed or they may not have been put in your record is because they are so completely standard that it would be like informing you of exactly what brand of alcohol swab was used to clean an injection site.
must be written by a surgeon, i for one will tell you i am facing foriegn body rejection from titanuim clips after cancer hyster, the cancer wasn't as bad as the years of hell i have been through cause people like you have no idea that some peoples bodies do not take kindly to foriegn objects wether hypoallergenic or not and as for the sad excuse they did not put in records alcohol on a swab it's not left inside you!!!! wake up, whats the matter with sutures for bleed out, dont try to excuse a problem if it continues, most people like my self would be happy just to get the clips removed instead of years of pain, truama, financial hell, but no i ma left on the magical round about with a thyriod a the shoot, several autoammune problems which cannot be figured out, hey einstien it's the flippin CLIPS
I HAVE SUFFERED FOR 13 YEARS WITH THESE STAPLES IN MY LUNG.I AM JUST SURE IT HAS TO DO WITH THEM BEING THERE.IT HAS NEARLY COST US OUR HOME FOR ALL THE DOCTORS AND TESTS,BUT NOT ONE WILL AGREE WITH ME.I KNOW MY BODY AND WHERE I HURT.
GRANTED ,I HAVE OTHER MEDICAL PROBLEMS,BUT THINK THE STAPLES IS MY LARGEST PROBLEM...WHY WON'T THEY JUST LISTEN?
ARLENE
Doctors do not have time to listen when they are trying to get through a patient every ten mins ... Sad but true .. and when they do listen they have a background noise which is called text book conditioning not many will go with a gut instinct ... Watch them and they will reach every damned time for that book full of drugs ... take a pick.. take a pic ..take a pick ... then write up that prescription ... as for your pain dont feel alone in this as I live in a small town and been to every single physician , I still feel like I am only half alive when I wake up yet again with pain in my side where the clips sit ..... I asked my gyno how she could sit there and say outright that putting a piece of metal in a finely tuned piece of machinery was not going to cause problems ... her answer was .. because noone else has complained about this before ... she admitted that there has not been a survey or research into weather or not the clips could cause these problems later on down the line ... in Fact I felt like I was the intelligent one in her office as I also do when I see my doctor ... the last time I saw him he suggested that I see psychologist.
Yep if they cannot give you an answer then you are the one who is crazy .. funny that !!!!!! Oh and yes if I want to get the clips out I would have to see a general surgeon privately which would cost me an arm and a leg .... FIRST DO NO HARM ... I truly wonder if they ever really read those words and take them to heart before they play god as they place metal clips into gods work of art thinking that in no way those pieces of metal are going to be rejected by this finely tuned piece of machinery .. some out thier dont even know that their pain is due to the clips .. that could be one very good reason they have not complained about it .. There could be hundreds of people whom are in pain and unlike us have not put two and two together thier doctors also telling them that it is in thier heads and that there is no good readon for the pain they are having .. Poor souls !!! I believe that the few such as ourselves are more in touch with our gut instincts and well are just going to have to wait for 100 years before they like everything else admit that they were wrong but like I said look at history they will never ever admit they are wrong .. remember once upon a time they use to think it laughable that one should wash thier hands before surgery ... they will get there in the end and you and I and all out there like us are just going to have let this one go .. I have found Yoga streches the area where the clips are which allieviates the pain for me .. have to keep this up so join a yoga club and inform the teacher ot your porblem so they can assist you ... all the very best with your healing
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jemi wrote:
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Surgical clips are completely normal and are used (and left in) in many, many types of surgeries. They are made of titanium which is hypoallergenic, non-rusting, doesn't set off metal detectors, and isn't affected by an MRI machine. They are left in to keep blood vessels and various ducts closed after organ removal because otherwise you would bleed out. There are lots of reasons you may have pain in or around a previous surgical site, but the clips are not likely the cause. The reason you may not have been informed or they may not have been put in your record is because they are so completely standard that it would be like informing you of exactly what brand of alcohol swab was used to clean an injection site.
must be written by a surgeon, i for one will tell you i am facing foriegn body rejection from titanuim clips after cancer hyster, the cancer wasn't as bad as the years of hell i have been through cause people like you have no idea that some peoples bodies do not take kindly to foriegn objects wether hypoallergenic or not and as for the sad excuse they did not put in records alcohol on a swab it's not left inside you!!!! wake up, whats the matter with sutures for bleed out, dont try to excuse a problem if it continues, most people like my self would be happy just to get the clips removed instead of years of pain, truama, financial hell, but no i ma left on the magical round about with a thyriod a the shoot, several autoammune problems which cannot be figured out, hey einstien it's the flippin CLIPS
I HAVE SUFFERED FOR 13 YEARS WITH THESE STAPLES IN MY LUNG.I AM JUST SURE IT HAS TO DO WITH THEM BEING THERE.IT HAS NEARLY COST US OUR HOME FOR ALL THE DOCTORS AND TESTS,BUT NOT ONE WILL AGREE WITH ME.I KNOW MY BODY AND WHERE I HURT.
GRANTED ,I HAVE OTHER MEDICAL PROBLEMS,BUT THINK THE STAPLES IS MY LARGEST PROBLEM...WHY WON'T THEY JUST LISTEN?
ARLENE
Doctors listen thats a joke ... I have been telling my doctor where the pain is for the past 8 years or so and he has sent me in for every test available but the one I asked for a catscan .. in the end he finally caved in and they found a row of clips on my right side in the exact area of the pain HMMMM and do you know what my doctor said to me .. Yep you guessed it ... he said that these clips have absolutely nothing to do with my pain .. my answer to him was show me one hundred percent how you came to this conclusion and then prove to me one hundred percent that you are right in your calculations .. he could not do this ... No doctor on this planet can do this because they have indeed time and time again been proven wrong years down the track .... So I would suggest to you to keep changing your doctor till you find one who is willing to investigate this alot mor indepth than your average doctor whom is usually in to much of a hurry to bring his next patient GOOD LUCK ...
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arlene212 wrote:
jemi wrote:
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Surgical clips are completely normal and are used (and left in) in many, many types of surgeries. They are made of titanium which is hypoallergenic, non-rusting, doesn't set off metal detectors, and isn't affected by an MRI machine. They are left in to keep blood vessels and various ducts closed after organ removal because otherwise you would bleed out. There are lots of reasons you may have pain in or around a previous surgical site, but the clips are not likely the cause. The reason you may not have been informed or they may not have been put in your record is because they are so completely standard that it would be like informing you of exactly what brand of alcohol swab was used to clean an injection site.
must be written by a surgeon, i for one will tell you i am facing foriegn body rejection from titanuim clips after cancer hyster, the cancer wasn't as bad as the years of hell i have been through cause people like you have no idea that some peoples bodies do not take kindly to foriegn objects wether hypoallergenic or not and as for the sad excuse they did not put in records alcohol on a swab it's not left inside you!!!! wake up, whats the matter with sutures for bleed out, dont try to excuse a problem if it continues, most people like my self would be happy just to get the clips removed instead of years of pain, truama, financial hell, but no i ma left on the magical round about with a thyriod a the shoot, several autoammune problems which cannot be figured out, hey einstien it's the flippin CLIPS
I HAVE SUFFERED FOR 13 YEARS WITH THESE STAPLES IN MY LUNG.I AM JUST SURE IT HAS TO DO WITH THEM BEING THERE.IT HAS NEARLY COST US OUR HOME FOR ALL THE DOCTORS AND TESTS,BUT NOT ONE WILL AGREE WITH ME.I KNOW MY BODY AND WHERE I HURT.
GRANTED ,I HAVE OTHER MEDICAL PROBLEMS,BUT THINK THE STAPLES IS MY LARGEST PROBLEM...WHY WON'T THEY JUST LISTEN?
ARLENE
Doctors listen thats a joke ... I have been telling my doctor where the pain is for the past 8 years or so and he has sent me in for every test available but the one I asked for a catscan .. in the end he finally caved in and they found a row of clips on my right side in the exact area of the pain HMMMM and do you know what my doctor said to me .. Yep you guessed it ... he said that these clips have absolutely nothing to do with my pain .. my answer to him was show me one hundred percent how you came to this conclusion and then prove to me one hundred percent that you are right in your calculations .. he could not do this ... No doctor on this planet can do this because they have indeed time and time again been proven wrong years down the track .... So I would suggest to you to keep changing your doctor till you find one who is willing to investigate this alot mor indepth than your average doctor whom is usually in to much of a hurry to bring his next patient GOOD LUCK ...
I have been to so many Doctors,and not one will admit Staples at all.Besides they are probably so deep in my lung,they could never get them now.Mine were so hair fine they could never find them.They don't show up in any test and I am told on the computer there is only one test for this and it is from another Country.Called a Melissa test I think.I am in so much PAIN 24/7 and raw sore pressure pushing so hard and stomach is so bloated ,my ears even plug up..SO MUCH FOR GOOD DOCS!!
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sharii wrote:
I too have been sufferring from severe pain in my neck since a partial thyroidectomy back in March 2009. The surgical clips were pointed out by my Chiropractor during a neck x-rays. I didn't think much of the clips until now that I've been diagnosed with mercury poisoning. Could these clips be contributing to a heavy metal overload in our bodies. I've been to several Dr's and of course, they tell me this pain is all in my head. Has anyone gotton any relief? My Surgeon never told me that he was going to leave these clips in my body, we only discussed the removal. Has anyone talked to an attorney? Is it worth pursuing?
I had my thyroid was remove Aug 4 2009 and I been having pain in my neck I told every Doctor I went to and they say it's just the muscle in the neck know I go to a Chiropractor he sent me to get a xray today on my neck and they told me I had clips in my neck no one ever told me about this sometime my neck hurt so bad I can't sleep at night I can't lay on the right side of my neck I have a hard time getting food to go down is someone who can help me.
I am quicklty coming to the conclusion clips wether titanium or otherwise are foriegn bodies, i see all of you with issues and other issues coming up along side what was original problem, me too, might the doctors not come up with the idea of autoamune problems, caused by foreign bodies, im fed up with trying to relate to differing doctors, most of the medical proffesion seem to have a mental block, perhaps instead of telling us we are crazy they should look into the problems, tell your doctor several of us have had a discusiion and coming up with same conclusion, im fighting every day, solicitors wont touch unless you pay and after 3 years money is very hard to come by, specially as you cant even get disabled by the problem. am looking into and will report back people stay strong and keep telling your doctor you want them out or as many as possible, gluten intolerance is just another autoammune condition . (foriegn bodies).
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denisewadley7 wrote:
sharii wrote:
I too have been sufferring from severe pain in my neck since a partial thyroidectomy back in March 2009. The surgical clips were pointed out by my Chiropractor during a neck x-rays. I didn't think much of the clips until now that I've been diagnosed with mercury poisoning. Could these clips be contributing to a heavy metal overload in our bodies. I've been to several Dr's and of course, they tell me this pain is all in my head. Has anyone gotton any relief? My Surgeon never told me that he was going to leave these clips in my body, we only discussed the removal. Has anyone talked to an attorney? Is it worth pursuing?
I had my thyroid was remove Aug 4 2009 and I been having pain in my neck I told every Doctor I went to and they say it's just the muscle in the neck know I go to a Chiropractor he sent me to get a xray today on my neck and they told me I had clips in my neck no one ever told me about this sometime my neck hurt so bad I can't sleep at night I can't lay on the right side of my neck I have a hard time getting food to go down is someone who can help me.
I am quicklty coming to the conclusion clips wether titanium or otherwise are foriegn bodies, i see all of you with issues and other issues coming up along side what was original problem, me too, might the doctors not come up with the idea of autoamune problems, caused by foreign bodies, im fed up with trying to relate to differing doctors, most of the medical proffesion seem to have a mental block, perhaps instead of telling us we are crazy they should look into the problems, tell your doctor several of us have had a discusiion and coming up with same conclusion, im fighting every day, solicitors wont touch unless you pay and after 3 years money is very hard to come by, specially as you cant even get disabled by the problem. am looking into and will report back people stay strong and keep telling your doctor you want them out or as many as possible, gluten intolerance is just another autoammune condition . (foriegn bodies).
For 13 years I have been running to all kind of Doctors and not one will agree that it is Titanium Staples in my lung that keeps me in such pain..My real bad pain is pretty much where the 152 Staples would beafter my Lung Surgery...WHY WON'T THEY LISTEN..HAVE NO IDEA WHO TO GO TO NEXT..
ARLENE
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jemi wrote:
denisewadley7 wrote:
sharii wrote:
I too have been sufferring from severe pain in my neck since a partial thyroidectomy back in March 2009. The surgical clips were pointed out by my Chiropractor during a neck x-rays. I didn't think much of the clips until now that I've been diagnosed with mercury poisoning. Could these clips be contributing to a heavy metal overload in our bodies. I've been to several Dr's and of course, they tell me this pain is all in my head. Has anyone gotton any relief? My Surgeon never told me that he was going to leave these clips in my body, we only discussed the removal. Has anyone talked to an attorney? Is it worth pursuing?
I had my thyroid was remove Aug 4 2009 and I been having pain in my neck I told every Doctor I went to and they say it's just the muscle in the neck know I go to a Chiropractor he sent me to get a xray today on my neck and they told me I had clips in my neck no one ever told me about this sometime my neck hurt so bad I can't sleep at night I can't lay on the right side of my neck I have a hard time getting food to go down is someone who can help me.
I am quicklty coming to the conclusion clips wether titanium or otherwise are foriegn bodies, i see all of you with issues and other issues coming up along side what was original problem, me too, might the doctors not come up with the idea of autoamune problems, caused by foreign bodies, im fed up with trying to relate to differing doctors, most of the medical proffesion seem to have a mental block, perhaps instead of telling us we are crazy they should look into the problems, tell your doctor several of us have had a discusiion and coming up with same conclusion, im fighting every day, solicitors wont touch unless you pay and after 3 years money is very hard to come by, specially as you cant even get disabled by the problem. am looking into and will report back people stay strong and keep telling your doctor you want them out or as many as possible, gluten intolerance is just another autoammune condition . (foriegn bodies).
For 13 years I have been running to all kind of Doctors and not one will agree that it is Titanium Staples in my lung that keeps me in such pain..My real bad pain is pretty much where the 152 Staples would beafter my Lung Surgery...WHY WON'T THEY LISTEN..HAVE NO IDEA WHO TO GO TO NEXT..
ARLENE
152 staples ?? Now that is really gonna cause some pain !! The body is not meant to have unidentified objects installed inside it .. I would go to a layer especially if you were not told that you were going to have 152 pieces of metal left in your body once the operation was completed .. If you were not informed of this then you definitely have a case .. I am at present perusing this myself as i had a cat scan where they found clips in the exact area of pain. I have had the pain for years ... I did not know up until that cat scan that they had left clips inside me ... We are not guinea pigs and i don't care how many times doctors say its quite normal to leave these clips inside us .. the point in the end is this .. they never informed us they were going to leave the clips in.... how is it normal in anyway that metal clips put inside a finely tuned piece of equipment such as our bodies, is not in anyway going to cause trouble ... Only a complete id**t would came to this conclusion .. Jemi a swab thrown into the bin and a piece of metal left inside the body are two totally different things .. And if you are a doctor then I now know why we are hitting our heads up against a brick wall ...
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ARLENE212 wrote:
jemi wrote:
denisewadley7 wrote:
sharii wrote:
I too have been sufferring from severe pain in my neck since a partial thyroidectomy back in March 2009. The surgical clips were pointed out by my Chiropractor during a neck x-rays. I didn't think much of the clips until now that I've been diagnosed with mercury poisoning. Could these clips be contributing to a heavy metal overload in our bodies. I've been to several Dr's and of course, they tell me this pain is all in my head. Has anyone gotton any relief? My Surgeon never told me that he was going to leave these clips in my body, we only discussed the removal. Has anyone talked to an attorney? Is it worth pursuing?
I had my thyroid was remove Aug 4 2009 and I been having pain in my neck I told every Doctor I went to and they say it's just the muscle in the neck know I go to a Chiropractor he sent me to get a xray today on my neck and they told me I had clips in my neck no one ever told me about this sometime my neck hurt so bad I can't sleep at night I can't lay on the right side of my neck I have a hard time getting food to go down is someone who can help me.
I am quicklty coming to the conclusion clips wether titanium or otherwise are foriegn bodies, i see all of you with issues and other issues coming up along side what was original problem, me too, might the doctors not come up with the idea of autoamune problems, caused by foreign bodies, im fed up with trying to relate to differing doctors, most of the medical proffesion seem to have a mental block, perhaps instead of telling us we are crazy they should look into the problems, tell your doctor several of us have had a discusiion and coming up with same conclusion, im fighting every day, solicitors wont touch unless you pay and after 3 years money is very hard to come by, specially as you cant even get disabled by the problem. am looking into and will report back people stay strong and keep telling your doctor you want them out or as many as possible, gluten intolerance is just another autoammune condition . (foriegn bodies).
For 13 years I have been running to all kind of Doctors and not one will agree that it is Titanium Staples in my lung that keeps me in such pain..My real bad pain is pretty much where the 152 Staples would beafter my Lung Surgery...WHY WON'T THEY LISTEN..HAVE NO IDEA WHO TO GO TO NEXT..
ARLENE
152 staples ?? Now that is really gonna cause some pain !! The body is not meant to have unidentified objects installed inside it .. I would go to a layer especially if you were not told that you were going to have 152 pieces of metal left in your body once the operation was completed .. If you were not informed of this then you definitely have a case .. I am at present perusing this myself as i had a cat scan where they found clips in the exact area of pain. I have had the pain for years ... I did not know up until that cat scan that they had left clips inside me ... We are not guinea pigs and i don't care how many times doctors say its quite normal to leave these clips inside us .. the point in the end is this .. they never informed us they were going to leave the clips in.... how is it normal in anyway that metal clips put inside a finely tuned piece of equipment such as our bodies, is not in anyway going to cause trouble ... Only a complete id**t would came to this conclusion .. Jemi a swab thrown into the bin and a piece of metal left inside the body are two totally different things .. And if you are a doctor then I now know why we are hitting our heads up against a brick wall ...
I tried to sue the Doctor and Hospital within a year,but my Attorney moved to New York from here (Oregon)..I could not find another Attorney.
I did tell the Doctor before Surgery not to use Staples on me,but he ignored this.It is too late now I think.It has been 13 years and now I am disabled and the pain is the worst part..
The Stapler he used was called a GIA Stapler.I even went to the Hospital and they gave me a set of the Staples and even the Stapler.The staples were so HAIR FINE,if you dropped one,you could not find or see it.It put Staples in my lung in bites...
Just makes me sick to think about it...
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suzie q wrote:
ARLENE212 wrote:
jemi wrote:
denisewadley7 wrote:
sharii wrote:
I too have been sufferring from severe pain in my neck since a partial thyroidectomy back in March 2009. The surgical clips were pointed out by my Chiropractor during a neck x-rays. I didn't think much of the clips until now that I've been diagnosed with mercury poisoning. Could these clips be contributing to a heavy metal overload in our bodies. I've been to several Dr's and of course, they tell me this pain is all in my head. Has anyone gotton any relief? My Surgeon never told me that he was going to leave these clips in my body, we only discussed the removal. Has anyone talked to an attorney? Is it worth pursuing?
I had my thyroid was remove Aug 4 2009 and I been having pain in my neck I told every Doctor I went to and they say it's just the muscle in the neck know I go to a Chiropractor he sent me to get a xray today on my neck and they told me I had clips in my neck no one ever told me about this sometime my neck hurt so bad I can't sleep at night I can't lay on the right side of my neck I have a hard time getting food to go down is someone who can help me.
I am quicklty coming to the conclusion clips wether titanium or otherwise are foriegn bodies, i see all of you with issues and other issues coming up along side what was original problem, me too, might the doctors not come up with the idea of autoamune problems, caused by foreign bodies, im fed up with trying to relate to differing doctors, most of the medical proffesion seem to have a mental block, perhaps instead of telling us we are crazy they should look into the problems, tell your doctor several of us have had a discusiion and coming up with same conclusion, im fighting every day, solicitors wont touch unless you pay and after 3 years money is very hard to come by, specially as you cant even get disabled by the problem. am looking into and will report back people stay strong and keep telling your doctor you want them out or as many as possible, gluten intolerance is just another autoammune condition . (foriegn bodies).
For 13 years I have been running to all kind of Doctors and not one will agree that it is Titanium Staples in my lung that keeps me in such pain..My real bad pain is pretty much where the 152 Staples would beafter my Lung Surgery...WHY WON'T THEY LISTEN..HAVE NO IDEA WHO TO GO TO NEXT..
ARLENE
152 staples ?? Now that is really gonna cause some pain !! The body is not meant to have unidentified objects installed inside it .. I would go to a layer especially if you were not told that you were going to have 152 pieces of metal left in your body once the operation was completed .. If you were not informed of this then you definitely have a case .. I am at present perusing this myself as i had a cat scan where they found clips in the exact area of pain. I have had the pain for years ... I did not know up until that cat scan that they had left clips inside me ... We are not guinea pigs and i don't care how many times doctors say its quite normal to leave these clips inside us .. the point in the end is this .. they never informed us they were going to leave the clips in.... how is it normal in anyway that metal clips put inside a finely tuned piece of equipment such as our bodies, is not in anyway going to cause trouble ... Only a complete id**t would came to this conclusion .. Jemi a swab thrown into the bin and a piece of metal left inside the body are two totally different things .. And if you are a doctor then I now know why we are hitting our heads up against a brick wall ...
I tried to sue the Doctor and Hospital within a year,but my Attorney moved to New York from here (Oregon)..I could not find another Attorney.
I did tell the Doctor before Surgery not to use Staples on me,but he ignored this.It is too late now I think.It has been 13 years and now I am disabled and the pain is the worst part..
The Stapler he used was called a GIA Stapler.I even went to the Hospital and they gave me a set of the Staples and even the Stapler.The staples were so HAIR FINE,if you dropped one,you could not find or see it.It put Staples in my lung in bites...
Just makes me sick to think about it...
I CANT BELIEVE THAT AFTER TELLING YOUR SURGEON YOU DID NOT WANT STAPLES LEFT IN YOUR BODY, THAT THE INSENSITIVE BABOON WENT RIGHT ON AHEAD AND USED THEM ANYWAY THAT IS JUST SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WRONG !!!!!!!
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I think you're all nuts, or at least paranoid. Staples are what they use to put you back together. I was having a chest xray after having heart bypass surgery and the xray tech asked me if I had seen an xray since the surgery. It looks like a 1st grader had his first experience with a stapler in there, and a paratrooper laced his boots up my sternum with wire shoe laces.
The only thing that hurts at all is the wire laces when the barometer drops or when I crawl out from under my car after working on my side for a while.
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