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As soon as you can start getting off the Suboxone. I was on it for 3 years, and the doctor just kept giving me another prescription after prescription and said to cut back when you feel like it, but I couldn't do that if I went to see him, so I quit going to see him, I had 2 months worth of suboxone and I cut back for 5 months until they where gone and the withdraw was long and hard. Even though I weened myself off for 5 months. Suboxone is not the cure it's another drug you have to get off. Good Luck

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Jay mes is right for the most part, the bupe in suboxone is a stronger blocker and opiod antagonist than the naloxone, and he was responding to someone elses post, not the persons main question and in that other post he was responding to the person did pointlessly bring up the opiate blocking sh*t. Narcan used in hospitals is a lot higher dose than the naloxone used in suboxone. The bupe is the main blocker, look it up. Or else whats the point? The bupe is what attaches to your receptors in suboxone, and a lot of you seem to know that, then tell me how if the bupe takes up the receptors, does the naloxone block anything. I cant get high on subutex, and thats the point.
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God love a duck: all I f*****g wanted to know is if I could take flexeril and suboxins together. I didn't need to hear all this happy horse sh*t a simple yes or no would of been great....
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Yes, you can take suboxone and flexeril.

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I was responding to jaymez texmex or whatever his name is. He put someone down for something that wouldn't hurt anyone, and turned around and gave potentially harmful information. And yes, tessy, you can take those 2 meds together.
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I'm not going to go into much detail about this because trying to change minds on the internet is like talking to wall. That said i felt i needed to at least throw my 2 cents in quick because i couldn't believe how many of you "corrected" jaymes's post without really knowing what your'e talking about. Jaymes is entirely right that there is no reason to have naloxone in suboxone because the binding affinity of buprenorphine is so strong that the naloxone can NOT push it off the receptors. That means no matter what your ROA is the buprenorphine will lock onto the mu receptor and stay there until its done. buprenorphine is an agonist for the mu receptor and an antagonist for the other 2 (kapa/delta). That said any OTHER opiod WILL be pushed off by naloxone, all except Buprenorphine, the only way you should have precipitated withdrawal from subs is if you were on another opiod (especially full agonists) and took Buprenorphine soon enough after to push your original dose off the receptors, but without enough buprenorphine to replace the lost dose. Not only will the Buprenorphine for sure take over the mu receptor, its antagonist action on the other two receptors plus the naloxone will make the other two empty which can cause the withdrawal. naloxone is not absorbed well sublingually, but when injected with buprenorphine it will push everything out but the buprenorphine that connects to mu receptor. long story short there is no reason for naloxone to be in suboxone other than placebo because it doesn't do the job its intended to (unless you work at Reckitt Benckiser, then it does, making the med more expensive and appear less able to be misused and abused) You can shoot suboxone just like subutex without any issues besides the c**p you cant filter out going trough your pipes.

Also i realize part of the flame was that he really didn't answer the original question so to that point, yes you can take cyclobenzaprine with buprenorphine. buprenorphine has very very low respiratory depression rate so adding the cyclo will make you more sedated but shouldn't cause issues assuming you aren't taking huge amounts (50mg +) or adding in other CNS depressants. if your'e taking buprenorphine with the cyclo plus you wanna go drink or take a valium or something then you need to stay aware of how sedated your making yourself.
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You are flat out an uneducated id**t. Research before shredding someone. You have no factual evidence of what you're saying. At all.
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"Think before you answer a question" lol yea dblunt maybe you should read before flaming.
JayMes never criticized the OP's choice to take a muscle relaxer, as you claim. Reread his post.

To the OP, it is dangerous to mix the two in opiate naive individuals or to also mix it with a benzo, or alcohol. Excercise caution.
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Actually JayMes and Guest are correct. There is a mountain of evidence to support it. maybe you should do some research. The only reason Naloxone is in Suboxone is so Reckitt could patent a new drug. Most Doctors don't even understand that very BASIC concept of binding affinity. It is sad that the people prescribing the stuff are often misinforming their patients on the Pharmacology taking place when you take Sub.


 they have three scales regarding drug interactions. They list the interaction between Buprenorphine and cyclobenzaprine as "High/Severe potential". The site goes on to explain that respiratory depression will be increased by mixing the two. Especially in cases where the person taking to Suboxone/Subutex or generic buprenorphine is new to their medication. It also states that this combo can be especially dangerous if you throw in alcohol and or benzos(xanax, clonopin etc).

Having said that. I personally have taken suboxone for several years and occasionally take a flexeril with it, but only if I am not drinking. I have seen someone take a flexeril with a single hit of dope and it caused them to OD. It is much more dangerous to mix it with full agonist opiates like heroin or prescription morphine etc, than it is with the partial agonist buprenorphine aka Suboxone/Subutex.

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Subutex and Suboxone have the same clinical effect, and you don't need a special license to prescribe subutex. Doctor's are usually hesitant to take in addicts and so you don't see many doctor's prescribing it. But it is the same thing. People that say, 'the Suboxone prevents you from getting high but the Subutex doesn't" are fools. That is like saying, 'the buprenorphine prevents you from getting high but the buprenorphine doesn't". It is usually cheaper, usually.

It would be easier to get Subutex by going to a doctor for pain and specifically requesting Subutex, than it would be if you tried the addiction maintenance route. Most regular doctor's are oblivious to the fact that Subutex and Suboxone are the same. The whole licensure program related to prescribing Suboxone has created confusion and a general unwillingness by regular docs to prescribe Subutex(because they think , 'if your an addict you need the one with Naloxone') when the Naloxone actually DOES NOTHING. Most regular docs also understand that addicts do need additional help besides the drug so it is probably better to see a specialist in that regard. But, if I was going to be on Sub for a while(years lets say), then I would rather have my family doc write out subutex than see two docs and pay twice in copays and more for meds. Most people need that careful attention though that a phsyc doc can provide.

Also, don't quote me on this but I believe that insurance probly wouldn't cover subutex for addiction maintanence if it wasn't accompanied by some sort of drug counseling(i.e. script written by a psych doc as opposed to regular). Which brings me back to , the easiest way to get subutex, unfortunately, is to ask for it from family doc for pain relief.
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JayMes is actually correct in his assertions.
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It good to hear of someone taking subozone for muscle spasms. Yes I first took it to get off the pain mesds. But I have so much nerve damage and muscle spasms the suboxone helps me to get by. I am tired of being treated like a junkie because I have been on suboxone for over 5yrs . I just tried flexor il with me my suboxone and it makes such a difference I think I can cut my suboxone disease .
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Last time I tried i almost had a seizure what else can I do?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA. Did you really just say that naloxone does nothing? That it has NO blocking abilities and is completely useless?I take suboxone and can tell you from personal experience that yes, naloxone ABSOLUTELY does block full opiates. Thats kind of THE ENTIRE POINT OF SUBOXONE. .

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I don't usually comment, but I really feel the need. Suboxone and Subutex are different. The Naloxone in suboxone does work as far as blocking other drugs, but if they are done in a larger amount then the naloxone doesn't work to well. I actually know this from experience. that's basically the only difference
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