Ok Wendy! You win!!!!!! o.O o.O o.O HOLY COW!!!! That is unreal!!!! And I just wanted to say I didn't know about you loosing your child! I am heartbroken for you! How long ago was this!? I hope you don't mind me asking! It is just awful what some people go through! GOOD people! And there is SO many pure EVIL people in this world that go around like nothing has hapened! And NOTHING happens to them.
I LOVE this site, so we can have a laugh, or talk about our problems etc. It is great therapy for ALL of us! If we can help people with similar problems then it makes ours less somehow doesn't it! IF you ever need to talk about your loss, I am here too for that OK?
And by the way you Chihuaha(sp) does NOT sound cute!!! Anydog that has bulging eyes and an overbite isn't cute!!!! ;-) ;-) I'm a big dog person! I had 2 Great Pyrenees's and a lab! I now have a lab, a Golden Retreiver and a very strange looking one(?) and 2 cats! So the more the merrier!
I haven't had time to read the PM yet! I want your address Lisa and I will send you a container of it OK?
Going out for coffee with a girlfriend of mine - 1st time out since my operation %-) So I hope I don't scare anyone off! So have a good day my cyber friends!!!
I LOVE this site, so we can have a laugh, or talk about our problems etc. It is great therapy for ALL of us! If we can help people with similar problems then it makes ours less somehow doesn't it! IF you ever need to talk about your loss, I am here too for that OK?
And by the way you Chihuaha(sp) does NOT sound cute!!! Anydog that has bulging eyes and an overbite isn't cute!!!! ;-) ;-) I'm a big dog person! I had 2 Great Pyrenees's and a lab! I now have a lab, a Golden Retreiver and a very strange looking one(?) and 2 cats! So the more the merrier!
I haven't had time to read the PM yet! I want your address Lisa and I will send you a container of it OK?
Going out for coffee with a girlfriend of mine - 1st time out since my operation %-) So I hope I don't scare anyone off! So have a good day my cyber friends!!!
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Lisa and Dawn, What's PM mean? Lisa, sorry to hear about your stomach hurting. Happy to hear your feeling better. Me and you, we both have to get ourselves some of that Vega. I think its vital to our recovery process. I saw a commercial for Activia, and they say that if your not regular in two weeks, you get your money back. Maybe we could try that until we get the Vega? Dawn, my hubby and I sometimes buy VIBE by Eniva. I wonder how that compares? It's supposed to be absorbed by your cells really well. It's supposed to have the highest ORAC rating in the physicians reference book. At least it did in 2007. My hubby asked me to look up Vega and see how it compares, because then he could get that for me immediately. I may just have to get my swollen butt off the couch and make some phone calls to health food stores a little farther away, and if I find the Vega, just by a bunch at once. I love CHOCOLATE :-)
One more thing I forgot to mention about past experiences, Lisa you reminded me of this when you talked about customs.........I once was flying in a plane and one of the engines failed and we had to do an emergency landing! Still, Dawn, you got hit by a bus? GEEZ, if that deosn't beat all! Except for the shark, of course! :O
Hugs, Wendy
One more thing I forgot to mention about past experiences, Lisa you reminded me of this when you talked about customs.........I once was flying in a plane and one of the engines failed and we had to do an emergency landing! Still, Dawn, you got hit by a bus? GEEZ, if that deosn't beat all! Except for the shark, of course! :O
Hugs, Wendy
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Dawn, somehow missed your last post. :$ :-) First of all, I didn't say that my chuhuahua had bulging eye's did I? At least I don't think I did ?:-| Anyhoo, she has an UNderbite, not an overbite. She has one tooth that sometimes sticks out on one side. When my daughter was 14, we went to look for a friend for my pomeranian(now she DOES have bulging eyes, but she's gorgeous), and my daughter wanted to see this Chuhuahua. The first thing she did was lick my daughters face and then looked at my pom and whimpered because she wanted to play with her. Her underbite, crooked teeth and lovable heart, totally won me over. :-) To me, she is perfect! :-D I bought another one because she's such a cool dog. I have three, you're right, the more the merrier. I'm a total dog lover too, and when I see a dog on a busy road, I pull over and drop everything to seek out the owner.
Thank you for your heart felt compassion on me losing my baby. It was technically a miscarriage, but it was devistating. My current husband and I have 3 children. We're a blended family and this baby that I lost, would have been our first child together. We had been trying for 5 years, we had been married for 10. I started bleeding the day before my first ultrasound, which would have been my second triemester. I went to the hospital and saw my baby on the ultrasound, only there was no heart beat. I was sent home to try to miscarry naturally. It is a very singular sensation to know that your carrying a dead baby in your body. My husband and I both cried.
I had a hard time with this because up until that point, I thought nothing bad would ever happen to me.
When I flipped in the car, I walked away. Both times with guns pointed at me, I walked away. In the riptide I was caught up in, I saved the person in front of me, because the rip tide didn't touch me, even though I was only 2 feet away. When the engine went out on the plane, we landed safely. The list goes on and on. I seemed to have had a bubble of protection around me.....And then,
at 39 yrs old I miscarried my long awaited baby and my only son ended up on the streets in another state, and my only connection to him was through a my space where I read he was sad and hungry. I handled that worse than the miscarriage. I started to bleed a lot from both ends. Found out I had fibroids and had to get checked for colon cancer. Meanwhile, I'm driving down the road at two in the morning after leaving the emergency room cuz my mom was there, and out of NOWHERE a car races up behind me and slams me from behind, then takes off!
So I went back to college, got my kid home (well at least back in this state where I see him quite regularly), got three months of therapy for my neck injury, got surgery for my fibroids and got this hem surgery. I'm OK not having anymore children, as grandchildren are not too far off! :-) Only, I CAN wait!
What helped me the most through all of this the pschology class I took. I never went through counseling, all though for a brief while I did take some anti-depressents. My daughter actually helped me through a lot as well, even though she cried when I lost the baby. She would have been a great big sister! But I know, she will be a fantastic mother. How is it possible to have so much love for your children? And yet, I believe this is how much our Heavenly Father must love us.
For awhile, I started to question God and ask Why? But now I realize that we live in a broken world, with broken people and God is with me to help me through it, and I also have family and friends. This brings me great comfort.
I think you are a beautiful person, Dawn. You have so much to offer and the support you show others is an extension of the love you have for other human spirits.
BUT, my chuhuahua IS cute! XD XD Hope your cup of coffee with your friend on your first day out was great. :-D
Hugs, Wendy
Thank you for your heart felt compassion on me losing my baby. It was technically a miscarriage, but it was devistating. My current husband and I have 3 children. We're a blended family and this baby that I lost, would have been our first child together. We had been trying for 5 years, we had been married for 10. I started bleeding the day before my first ultrasound, which would have been my second triemester. I went to the hospital and saw my baby on the ultrasound, only there was no heart beat. I was sent home to try to miscarry naturally. It is a very singular sensation to know that your carrying a dead baby in your body. My husband and I both cried.
I had a hard time with this because up until that point, I thought nothing bad would ever happen to me.
When I flipped in the car, I walked away. Both times with guns pointed at me, I walked away. In the riptide I was caught up in, I saved the person in front of me, because the rip tide didn't touch me, even though I was only 2 feet away. When the engine went out on the plane, we landed safely. The list goes on and on. I seemed to have had a bubble of protection around me.....And then,
at 39 yrs old I miscarried my long awaited baby and my only son ended up on the streets in another state, and my only connection to him was through a my space where I read he was sad and hungry. I handled that worse than the miscarriage. I started to bleed a lot from both ends. Found out I had fibroids and had to get checked for colon cancer. Meanwhile, I'm driving down the road at two in the morning after leaving the emergency room cuz my mom was there, and out of NOWHERE a car races up behind me and slams me from behind, then takes off!
So I went back to college, got my kid home (well at least back in this state where I see him quite regularly), got three months of therapy for my neck injury, got surgery for my fibroids and got this hem surgery. I'm OK not having anymore children, as grandchildren are not too far off! :-) Only, I CAN wait!
What helped me the most through all of this the pschology class I took. I never went through counseling, all though for a brief while I did take some anti-depressents. My daughter actually helped me through a lot as well, even though she cried when I lost the baby. She would have been a great big sister! But I know, she will be a fantastic mother. How is it possible to have so much love for your children? And yet, I believe this is how much our Heavenly Father must love us.
For awhile, I started to question God and ask Why? But now I realize that we live in a broken world, with broken people and God is with me to help me through it, and I also have family and friends. This brings me great comfort.
I think you are a beautiful person, Dawn. You have so much to offer and the support you show others is an extension of the love you have for other human spirits.
BUT, my chuhuahua IS cute! XD XD Hope your cup of coffee with your friend on your first day out was great. :-D
Hugs, Wendy
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Wendy! I don't know what to say! And THAT IS a first! My HEART goes out to you, what a strong woman you are! I have had several friends who lost their babies the same way, and I understand the devestation this causes! One of my oldest and dearest friends almost died through the "process" it was awful! Like i said earlier, there are people in this world that have done and continue to do TERRIBLE things to other human beings, animals, the world etc. And they have NOTHING compared to people like yourself! It angers me SO much! I know you are a very spiritual woman! I fail quite often in that department! I am a woman of God and very spiritual, but I question ALL the time! I'm the type of person that wants my day in court! I want the guilty to be punished and the innocent to prevail!
By the way, Underbite, Overbite, One tooth sticking out, or in - DOESN'T Matter!!!! They're still ugly!!! ;-) 8-| 8-| XD I LOVE animals, even ones that have attacked me! ;-) Have you seen the movie Shark Water? It is a wonderful movie! You will want to adopt a shark like we did!!!! HONESTLY!! We have Adopted "Scarsboard" from the Adopt a Shark Foundation, we have also adopted "Floyd" the Manetae! I wouldn't like to pet Scarsboard, but she IS a stunner! Especially if you were swimming next to her in a black diving outfit! o.O I donate to a organization that takes in SEVERELY abused dogs and cats! It is HEARTBREAKING to see what these poor things go through, yet wonderful to see them come back to life with love and care! Our favoirte channel is the Animal Planet! I swear that's on all day!
It is funny how similar you and I think about things! Of all the terrible things that have happened to you, you feel that you are still protected because you walked away! I totally get that, of all the things that happened to me I keep thinking "Could and CAN be worse!" Which is true! I think it is a healthy attitude to have! Because if you don't and suffer from "Why me?!!"" Then you can't recover! My one friend said to me one day "Why not me?!!!!" Which is true isn't it! What makes us so special that things shouldn't happen to us! But in the case of you and I, I think we could share a little with others!!! ;-) XD
Was your son a drug addict? I have had problems with my eldest with that! We asked him to leave the house 2wice in the last year! We were going to adopt a boy 2 years ago, he was 14 at the time! He got my eldest into drugs, they OD one night, THEN he defrauded us of THOUSANDS of dollars and wiped us clean! He bought a motorbike on one of my CC's! He saw my husbands PIN number and snuck out for over 2 weeks (almost everynight) and withdrew $100's and $100's of dollars! I was ill at the time and my husband went to buy groceries and we had no monies - no overdraft even!!! I went on line and saw all these withdrawls over 2 weeks at 1 and 2 in the morning!!! the bank first said we were victims of SWIPING! But I know that is only right at ONE place not 4 or 5 different locations. And I just knew in my heart it was him! When it came out I asked him why he did it and his reply was "I NEEDED money and how do you think a teenager is going to exist on $10 a week allowance?!!!!" o.O :-( o.O So we gave him up to the courts, then his useless parents took him back in! they tried to black mail us so we would keep him - at the beginning! I remember his step dad saying to me "How much is he worth to you Dawn?!" I was like %-) o.O And basically he wanted me to pay him and her monies to adopt him!!! So when we went to court to get custody, the judge just ruled in our favour - so they got NOTHING!!!! To this day I believe they were behind him doing what he did, NOT saying he wasn't resposible for his own actions, but it was just SO out there! Anyway we are STILL dealing with that! I still love him! He's a lost kid, that I should have stepped in for years before! He phoned me a couple of months ago = after getting out of jail for the upteenth time - and said "I wanted to say how sorry I am to you MOM for doing this to you! I DO love you and I can't believe I did what I did ....." At first I was like "Oh here we go" But he didn't he just said he's trying to get his life on track! Everytime there's a shooting or a gang event in the city where he is now my heart stops! One time there was a news story of a 16 year old being shot, it looked JUST like him! I phoned all of these "loosers" that he was living with - gang members etc - and there I was talking to this guy he sounded realy old and punkish - if you understand! And I was asking if ? was OK? And the guy/man said "Yeah he's fine, he's just doin a deal for me and will be right back, do ya want me to get him to call ya?!!!" :-S I said " no that's ok, just tell him I was worried!" he said "OH you're that woman that he calls mom heh?!" BROKE MY HEART!!!! So I totally understand about your son honey! All you can do is be there isn't it!?
Boy am I serious today!!! Actually I had a BAD night last night, I took too many painkillers - thought I hadn't took one lot and did - so I was up till about 3 am in the you know where! And I kept thinking "I think I should go to the hospital" But it passed! So thus the low side today! Sorry guys no jokes today! Dealing with my own toilet issues too!!! >:(
So I need to get out AGAIN and take my youngest for a haircut! So I will talk to you all later!!! I just remembered something from Oprah!!! They said if you close your eyes and REALLY concentrate, you can make your VAJAYJAY smile - with your muscles - AND your URANUS!!! Actually I have tried it, it does work!!!! You just need to REALLY concentrate! That would help you and Lisa down there in the Motherland!!!! ;-)
By the way, Underbite, Overbite, One tooth sticking out, or in - DOESN'T Matter!!!! They're still ugly!!! ;-) 8-| 8-| XD I LOVE animals, even ones that have attacked me! ;-) Have you seen the movie Shark Water? It is a wonderful movie! You will want to adopt a shark like we did!!!! HONESTLY!! We have Adopted "Scarsboard" from the Adopt a Shark Foundation, we have also adopted "Floyd" the Manetae! I wouldn't like to pet Scarsboard, but she IS a stunner! Especially if you were swimming next to her in a black diving outfit! o.O I donate to a organization that takes in SEVERELY abused dogs and cats! It is HEARTBREAKING to see what these poor things go through, yet wonderful to see them come back to life with love and care! Our favoirte channel is the Animal Planet! I swear that's on all day!
It is funny how similar you and I think about things! Of all the terrible things that have happened to you, you feel that you are still protected because you walked away! I totally get that, of all the things that happened to me I keep thinking "Could and CAN be worse!" Which is true! I think it is a healthy attitude to have! Because if you don't and suffer from "Why me?!!"" Then you can't recover! My one friend said to me one day "Why not me?!!!!" Which is true isn't it! What makes us so special that things shouldn't happen to us! But in the case of you and I, I think we could share a little with others!!! ;-) XD
Was your son a drug addict? I have had problems with my eldest with that! We asked him to leave the house 2wice in the last year! We were going to adopt a boy 2 years ago, he was 14 at the time! He got my eldest into drugs, they OD one night, THEN he defrauded us of THOUSANDS of dollars and wiped us clean! He bought a motorbike on one of my CC's! He saw my husbands PIN number and snuck out for over 2 weeks (almost everynight) and withdrew $100's and $100's of dollars! I was ill at the time and my husband went to buy groceries and we had no monies - no overdraft even!!! I went on line and saw all these withdrawls over 2 weeks at 1 and 2 in the morning!!! the bank first said we were victims of SWIPING! But I know that is only right at ONE place not 4 or 5 different locations. And I just knew in my heart it was him! When it came out I asked him why he did it and his reply was "I NEEDED money and how do you think a teenager is going to exist on $10 a week allowance?!!!!" o.O :-( o.O So we gave him up to the courts, then his useless parents took him back in! they tried to black mail us so we would keep him - at the beginning! I remember his step dad saying to me "How much is he worth to you Dawn?!" I was like %-) o.O And basically he wanted me to pay him and her monies to adopt him!!! So when we went to court to get custody, the judge just ruled in our favour - so they got NOTHING!!!! To this day I believe they were behind him doing what he did, NOT saying he wasn't resposible for his own actions, but it was just SO out there! Anyway we are STILL dealing with that! I still love him! He's a lost kid, that I should have stepped in for years before! He phoned me a couple of months ago = after getting out of jail for the upteenth time - and said "I wanted to say how sorry I am to you MOM for doing this to you! I DO love you and I can't believe I did what I did ....." At first I was like "Oh here we go" But he didn't he just said he's trying to get his life on track! Everytime there's a shooting or a gang event in the city where he is now my heart stops! One time there was a news story of a 16 year old being shot, it looked JUST like him! I phoned all of these "loosers" that he was living with - gang members etc - and there I was talking to this guy he sounded realy old and punkish - if you understand! And I was asking if ? was OK? And the guy/man said "Yeah he's fine, he's just doin a deal for me and will be right back, do ya want me to get him to call ya?!!!" :-S I said " no that's ok, just tell him I was worried!" he said "OH you're that woman that he calls mom heh?!" BROKE MY HEART!!!! So I totally understand about your son honey! All you can do is be there isn't it!?
Boy am I serious today!!! Actually I had a BAD night last night, I took too many painkillers - thought I hadn't took one lot and did - so I was up till about 3 am in the you know where! And I kept thinking "I think I should go to the hospital" But it passed! So thus the low side today! Sorry guys no jokes today! Dealing with my own toilet issues too!!! >:(
So I need to get out AGAIN and take my youngest for a haircut! So I will talk to you all later!!! I just remembered something from Oprah!!! They said if you close your eyes and REALLY concentrate, you can make your VAJAYJAY smile - with your muscles - AND your URANUS!!! Actually I have tried it, it does work!!!! You just need to REALLY concentrate! That would help you and Lisa down there in the Motherland!!!! ;-)
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Dawn, wow, what to say first. Um, thank you for calling me strong, but it's you whom I look at as strong. We all question God at times, don't we? I think he's used to it. He knows that no matter how great the bible is, we will still have PLENTY of questions when we see him.
I'm so happy that your OK after that mistake. I've almost done that a few times myself. I also get scared that I may get addicted. I have been feeling pretty good down "there", so I've been trying to not take pain meds, but my energy is soooo low. I think the constipation threw my back out, so today I took valium to relax it, which I was trying to save for the spasms I get if I have a hard BM. Just this summer I've had laproscopy, a D&C, a lump removed from my breast, uterine artery embolization and the hemrrhoid surgery. All in 3 months. No wonder my body is so tired and no wonder I get nervous about getting addicted.
What a sad story that is about your son. I got a little confused though. Is your son still on drugs or just the "son" who calls you "mom"?
I totally agree that all we can do is be there for them when they need us. My son was a joy to raise. He is extremely loving and affectionate. He is gifted in music (plays both drums and guitar), singing, performing, writing and drawing. I have watched this kid practically grow up on stage. He loves it and thrived at it. Then he started smoking pot and his life has been at a stand still ever since. He's not doing anything he loves to do, and he didn't graduate. It breaks my heart. He comes, however, to every family event we have. He even traded shifts with someone at his job to come to this last one. He is trying to stay close and for this I am greatful. Then I get to wrap my arms around him and give him a big kiss. I love that child so much!
I'm glad your an animal lover like me. What would this world be like without them? I think that's great that you donate to the sharks!
I wish I knew enough about computers to show you a picture of my angel Molly. Then you'd see how adorable she is! (stinker!)
How was your cup of coffee with your friend and how was your day out? I hope it was great, you deserve it ;-) !
As for your last tid bit of info, I will have to try this sometime!Soon, hopefully ;-) :-D .
Where did Lisa go? Hope she's doing just as well as the last time we spoke.
Hugs, Wendy
I'm so happy that your OK after that mistake. I've almost done that a few times myself. I also get scared that I may get addicted. I have been feeling pretty good down "there", so I've been trying to not take pain meds, but my energy is soooo low. I think the constipation threw my back out, so today I took valium to relax it, which I was trying to save for the spasms I get if I have a hard BM. Just this summer I've had laproscopy, a D&C, a lump removed from my breast, uterine artery embolization and the hemrrhoid surgery. All in 3 months. No wonder my body is so tired and no wonder I get nervous about getting addicted.
What a sad story that is about your son. I got a little confused though. Is your son still on drugs or just the "son" who calls you "mom"?
I totally agree that all we can do is be there for them when they need us. My son was a joy to raise. He is extremely loving and affectionate. He is gifted in music (plays both drums and guitar), singing, performing, writing and drawing. I have watched this kid practically grow up on stage. He loves it and thrived at it. Then he started smoking pot and his life has been at a stand still ever since. He's not doing anything he loves to do, and he didn't graduate. It breaks my heart. He comes, however, to every family event we have. He even traded shifts with someone at his job to come to this last one. He is trying to stay close and for this I am greatful. Then I get to wrap my arms around him and give him a big kiss. I love that child so much!
I'm glad your an animal lover like me. What would this world be like without them? I think that's great that you donate to the sharks!
I wish I knew enough about computers to show you a picture of my angel Molly. Then you'd see how adorable she is! (stinker!)
How was your cup of coffee with your friend and how was your day out? I hope it was great, you deserve it ;-) !
As for your last tid bit of info, I will have to try this sometime!Soon, hopefully ;-) :-D .
Where did Lisa go? Hope she's doing just as well as the last time we spoke.
Hugs, Wendy
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Hi hon! I was thinking about Yellow today! It is her wedding day - I suppose you're a LITTLE busy Yellow ;-) - I wish you joy and stability and respect! AND of course health and laughter!
My actual son, hasn't touched drugs (supposedly) for a couple of months now! But I am WEARY! I don't call the other one my son anymore! It was hard, but I HAD to step away from that monicker! I HAD to have him stop calling me mom and myself calling him my "Eldest son!' I told him when we went to court, "I'm NOT giving up on you, I'm just giving up on the fight!" There was so many people in his life that let him down! We DIDN'T, but I felt like we did!
Constipation can TOTALLY destroy our backs! It is such a nerve damaging event! When I was giving birth to the "Pelvic Destroyer!" ;-) There was SO many nerves damaged in my lower spine, I actually herniated a disc too!!!!!!!!! o.O I remember screaming at the top of my lungs! The pain was BEYOND belief! And the moment he was born everyone knew why! His head was SO big that he had basically dragged it all the way down my spine!!! I will NEVER forget trying to get out of the bed, and when they said "Don't push!!!" I was like "NO WAY!!!!" And with everything in me pushed him out! Which caused SO MUCH damage! BUT I couldn't take it 1 more second! I truly think I would have passed out! And this is after I already had 1 child and thought - and my doctor thought - that this one would be easier and quicker! BOY were we wrong! The other day - when I was having the problems - I still have SO much scar tissue down there! I went to my local drug store and they usually have Vega, but they didn't yesterday - just Vanilla and Strawberry. And I NEED my chocolate ;-) I was going to buy 2 containers 1 for you and 1 for Lisa! I will try again in a couple of days! You watch I hype this thing SO much and you get it and it doesn't work!!! 8-|
The things to watch out for - regarding if you are getting addicted - is if someone were to tell you today that you needed to stop right now! How would you feel about that? If you feel like you would do ANYTHING to make that not happen, then you are becoming addicted. If you say "Yeah OK! " The you will be fine! Also if you have ever been addicted to anything else before, this - my belief anyway - is like a precursor to you being addicted again! I was an alcoholic from age 14 till my 1st child at 27! So it was just another addiction! I have talked to many on here about wether or not they can kick their opiate habits. Some - like myself - have a very hard time. While others - who haven't been addicted to anything before - don're really have a problem! So I think it just depends! Also - my belief once again - if you have been surounded by addictive personalites, I truly think you are also more likely to be an addict!
The more I talk to women about their health issues, I am becoming more and more aware of these same women having MAJOR health issues from hormonal imbalances! I am starting to really see a pattern between, women with uterine problems, too much estrogen (bleeding, ovarian cysts etc) and delivery problems, breast issues and even hemorroid, bowel, colon, stomach issues! This is my personal opinion from talking to MANY women, but I just wonder if there truly is a conection?!
I just realized, Lisa is getting ready to watch Big Brother!!! ;-) XD XD I'm embarrassed to say I LOVE the show, I knew I was in trouble - a couple of years ago - when I started watching Joe Millionaire!!! oops: :$ 8-| ;-) It was my little secret!!! XD XD Then I've gone downhill since then! Really once you've watched Joe Millionaire and Average Joe! There really is no hope! ;-) XD
My actual son, hasn't touched drugs (supposedly) for a couple of months now! But I am WEARY! I don't call the other one my son anymore! It was hard, but I HAD to step away from that monicker! I HAD to have him stop calling me mom and myself calling him my "Eldest son!' I told him when we went to court, "I'm NOT giving up on you, I'm just giving up on the fight!" There was so many people in his life that let him down! We DIDN'T, but I felt like we did!
Constipation can TOTALLY destroy our backs! It is such a nerve damaging event! When I was giving birth to the "Pelvic Destroyer!" ;-) There was SO many nerves damaged in my lower spine, I actually herniated a disc too!!!!!!!!! o.O I remember screaming at the top of my lungs! The pain was BEYOND belief! And the moment he was born everyone knew why! His head was SO big that he had basically dragged it all the way down my spine!!! I will NEVER forget trying to get out of the bed, and when they said "Don't push!!!" I was like "NO WAY!!!!" And with everything in me pushed him out! Which caused SO MUCH damage! BUT I couldn't take it 1 more second! I truly think I would have passed out! And this is after I already had 1 child and thought - and my doctor thought - that this one would be easier and quicker! BOY were we wrong! The other day - when I was having the problems - I still have SO much scar tissue down there! I went to my local drug store and they usually have Vega, but they didn't yesterday - just Vanilla and Strawberry. And I NEED my chocolate ;-) I was going to buy 2 containers 1 for you and 1 for Lisa! I will try again in a couple of days! You watch I hype this thing SO much and you get it and it doesn't work!!! 8-|
The things to watch out for - regarding if you are getting addicted - is if someone were to tell you today that you needed to stop right now! How would you feel about that? If you feel like you would do ANYTHING to make that not happen, then you are becoming addicted. If you say "Yeah OK! " The you will be fine! Also if you have ever been addicted to anything else before, this - my belief anyway - is like a precursor to you being addicted again! I was an alcoholic from age 14 till my 1st child at 27! So it was just another addiction! I have talked to many on here about wether or not they can kick their opiate habits. Some - like myself - have a very hard time. While others - who haven't been addicted to anything before - don're really have a problem! So I think it just depends! Also - my belief once again - if you have been surounded by addictive personalites, I truly think you are also more likely to be an addict!
The more I talk to women about their health issues, I am becoming more and more aware of these same women having MAJOR health issues from hormonal imbalances! I am starting to really see a pattern between, women with uterine problems, too much estrogen (bleeding, ovarian cysts etc) and delivery problems, breast issues and even hemorroid, bowel, colon, stomach issues! This is my personal opinion from talking to MANY women, but I just wonder if there truly is a conection?!
I just realized, Lisa is getting ready to watch Big Brother!!! ;-) XD XD I'm embarrassed to say I LOVE the show, I knew I was in trouble - a couple of years ago - when I started watching Joe Millionaire!!! oops: :$ 8-| ;-) It was my little secret!!! XD XD Then I've gone downhill since then! Really once you've watched Joe Millionaire and Average Joe! There really is no hope! ;-) XD
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Wow two days gone and look at the posts here. :-) Just kidding, as much more you write there will be more informations here, more experiences and more help others can get. So keep on posting :-)
Well I'm not that young, though I think I am the youngest here. :-) But that isn't important. The importanat thing to me is how did you all survive all off those things???? I mean gun at the head? I still can't believe that. I never had an experience like that. TO be honest I never got robbed. And like Lisa said, my life is boring compared to yours. I have to live a little. :-)
Now Lisa I'm sorry that you are feeling sick, I hope that you are better today. I will be waiting for your post.
Wendy, I have to say I haven't read all of these new post, so I don't know you full situation? Are you any better? (If you can give me a small brief :-) ).
And bambi, congratulation on your 20th wedding anniversary. You should be proud of your husband and you. That is a big number. :-) Just keep on the good work.
Well I'm not that young, though I think I am the youngest here. :-) But that isn't important. The importanat thing to me is how did you all survive all off those things???? I mean gun at the head? I still can't believe that. I never had an experience like that. TO be honest I never got robbed. And like Lisa said, my life is boring compared to yours. I have to live a little. :-)
Now Lisa I'm sorry that you are feeling sick, I hope that you are better today. I will be waiting for your post.
Wendy, I have to say I haven't read all of these new post, so I don't know you full situation? Are you any better? (If you can give me a small brief :-) ).
And bambi, congratulation on your 20th wedding anniversary. You should be proud of your husband and you. That is a big number. :-) Just keep on the good work.
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Go on DR tell us how old you are?!! IF you are below 20 you WILL have to sign out of our club!!!! ;-) XD XD I cannot - for one - think about a young 20 year old listening to middleaged women that had MASSIVE children and ALL that went into it! IF you want to stay in the club you HAVE to be over 30 and at least in a relationship!!!! ;-) XD XD XD JK
It's funny, due to my experiences growing up, I am VERY open with my boys! Ever since they were little it was I that talked to them about sex etc. This was my husband - if the boys asked him any questions - o.O %-) o.O :$ %-) o.O ? Honest! He used to stutter!!! It was and IS hilarious!!! So I tell them ANYTHING they ask about - and more! ESPECIALLY after talking to teenagers on here! My eldest - who has the same sarcastic humour as I do - usually says "WELL!! That WAS interesting and WAY too informative!!!" I split a gut with that kid! He's affraid to bring over his MANY girlfriends, as I usually start talking to them and all of a sudden they are telling me EVERYTHING about their lives and I become their friend on Facebook! It drives him NUTS! I tell him "We don't even talk about you!! " Which is true, but he just doesn't want me to fall in love with them - which has happened a "few" times - and then he splits with them and I'm mad at him!!! Poor kid he can't win!
LISA Where are you honey!!!? If I remember rightly - and maybe you guys can verify for me too - but I THINK she's moving to her moms this week! Is that right guys? It will be good for her to get some help! I'm probably wrong about all that, I am blonde and a ditz! TRULY!! Anyway, I am feeling better today, just cleaned my house and that FEELS GOOD!! Because even though my boys have been wonderful, they just don't get in the corners right DR?!!! ;-) XD XD
It's funny, due to my experiences growing up, I am VERY open with my boys! Ever since they were little it was I that talked to them about sex etc. This was my husband - if the boys asked him any questions - o.O %-) o.O :$ %-) o.O ? Honest! He used to stutter!!! It was and IS hilarious!!! So I tell them ANYTHING they ask about - and more! ESPECIALLY after talking to teenagers on here! My eldest - who has the same sarcastic humour as I do - usually says "WELL!! That WAS interesting and WAY too informative!!!" I split a gut with that kid! He's affraid to bring over his MANY girlfriends, as I usually start talking to them and all of a sudden they are telling me EVERYTHING about their lives and I become their friend on Facebook! It drives him NUTS! I tell him "We don't even talk about you!! " Which is true, but he just doesn't want me to fall in love with them - which has happened a "few" times - and then he splits with them and I'm mad at him!!! Poor kid he can't win!
LISA Where are you honey!!!? If I remember rightly - and maybe you guys can verify for me too - but I THINK she's moving to her moms this week! Is that right guys? It will be good for her to get some help! I'm probably wrong about all that, I am blonde and a ditz! TRULY!! Anyway, I am feeling better today, just cleaned my house and that FEELS GOOD!! Because even though my boys have been wonderful, they just don't get in the corners right DR?!!! ;-) XD XD
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Bambie, my daughter is SUCH a huge help around the house. She doesn't get the corners right, either, but she's been gone for 3 weeks and now that the corners don't seem as important! I need her help! %-) ;-) XD
Happy to hear your own son isn't on drugs anymore. My son texted me today and asked me, my husband and his sister to go to the movies with him and his girlfriend. They both work at a movie theater, so the treat would be on them. Isn't that cute? :-)
I really want to get cable TV, but if I do, I would be more inclined to watch learning shows and artsy things. That's just me, though. I'm not into reality shows, they remind me too much of my OWN life! o.O XD XD
I thought their wasn't any worse pain than hemorrhoid surgery, but after THAT story............. o.O o.O I think you may have won ! XD
Dr. Red! Thanks for asking how I'm doing! I'm doing well, actually. Since my back has started to bother me, I've been walking twice a day to loosen it up, which is also building my strength back slowly.(My whoofers love it too!) I threw in an adjustment from the chiropracter today as well, for good measure. I'm working part time too! Only about 4 hrs, but still, it keeps me on my toes. :-)
I'm going to even let my husband start sleeping back in our bed together tonight! (I, actually do mean SLEEP!, no TMI intended XD )
How are you doing?
Lisa, if you're moving, I pray you STILL try to take it as easy as you can. I wouldn't lift more than 9lbs. I tried this the other day and I got shooting pains up the gazoo. I stopped immediately. I hope you're feeling better!
Hugs to all, Wendy
Ps, Bambie, I think you may be on to something with the hormone theory!
Happy to hear your own son isn't on drugs anymore. My son texted me today and asked me, my husband and his sister to go to the movies with him and his girlfriend. They both work at a movie theater, so the treat would be on them. Isn't that cute? :-)
I really want to get cable TV, but if I do, I would be more inclined to watch learning shows and artsy things. That's just me, though. I'm not into reality shows, they remind me too much of my OWN life! o.O XD XD
I thought their wasn't any worse pain than hemorrhoid surgery, but after THAT story............. o.O o.O I think you may have won ! XD
Dr. Red! Thanks for asking how I'm doing! I'm doing well, actually. Since my back has started to bother me, I've been walking twice a day to loosen it up, which is also building my strength back slowly.(My whoofers love it too!) I threw in an adjustment from the chiropracter today as well, for good measure. I'm working part time too! Only about 4 hrs, but still, it keeps me on my toes. :-)
I'm going to even let my husband start sleeping back in our bed together tonight! (I, actually do mean SLEEP!, no TMI intended XD )
How are you doing?
Lisa, if you're moving, I pray you STILL try to take it as easy as you can. I wouldn't lift more than 9lbs. I tried this the other day and I got shooting pains up the gazoo. I stopped immediately. I hope you're feeling better!
Hugs to all, Wendy
Ps, Bambie, I think you may be on to something with the hormone theory!
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Hahaha bambi, no I'm not inder 20 :-) I'm way over that... :-) I wish I was 20 again, or under. One of the best years in my life. You don't have to worry about many thing and you just try to have as much fun as you can.
And Wendy, I'm glad that you are doing better. Just try not to over work your self. Have a limit and do not cores it. Only if you feel very well and then you can try to take it to another level. :-)
I think your husband will be glad to sleep again beside you. :-)
I think Lisa is all ready at her mothers place. If I remember correctly her mother wont let her even move from a couch. :-) It seams that she really have a good mother. When you read this, I hope that you will respond us that you are doing well.
All the best to all of you.
And Wendy, I'm glad that you are doing better. Just try not to over work your self. Have a limit and do not cores it. Only if you feel very well and then you can try to take it to another level. :-)
I think your husband will be glad to sleep again beside you. :-)
I think Lisa is all ready at her mothers place. If I remember correctly her mother wont let her even move from a couch. :-) It seams that she really have a good mother. When you read this, I hope that you will respond us that you are doing well.
All the best to all of you.
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Hi everyone! I just got back from Indy (where my mom lives)... I'm okay, just very very depressed... I have a lot going on and so does my husband... I'm starting to heal finally but I did just take a pain pill and xanax... Just so much going on in my life right now and I just feel like its going down a drain.. :'( . Told my husband I should just kill myself... but I have God in my life and that would be selfish to my 3 beautiful little kids and husband.... I just can't take stress and a lot of bad things happening to me all at once like all of you.. I'm not that strong of a person and I truly look up to all of you! I feel like I should just go into a "looney bin".... My poor kids start school next week here and I have no income because of me not working... I just think I should just go back to work whether I'm healed or not... I need to think and take care of my kids... My husband had his interview yesterday, so we don't know anything yet... I will keep you all updated on that one... If its God's will, then so be it.... It will be very hard though, living with my parents but at least we have someone who does loves us so much to help us out... and we won't be on the streets.... Yes DR, I did not do any work at mom's... but coming home tonight, I had to help unload the van and me trying to even lift a small suitcase up the steps, put a lot of pressure on my butt and it hurt... I'm just a hot mess aren't I? Wendy and Dawn, you two are just lovely... I really wish I could be as strong as the both of you!!!! You both have had way much more bad things happen to you... and I'm sorry about your baby you lost Wendy! And Dawn, you have your cancer and health problems and you can still laugh and talk to others to cheer us up... So I love all of you here!! Thank you for being a friend to me.... (sounds like the Golden girls huh? LOL).... I have to go lay down... Thank you for being my buddies.... OH, Dawn, I think my mom is going to buy me the Chocolate VEGA powder for me to try it out... It says to start it gradually (not a full dose) or it can give you the craps... LOL.. Do you drink this with milk? And do you drink this everyday? Love and Hugs to you all.. :-D .. Sorry I'm so depressing sounding tonight.. Just have a lot going on and it cause terrible stress.... :-(
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Honey!!!! I am talking for both Wendy and I - hope that's OK Wendy - but when ALL this c**p happened to us, we weren't strong then for crying out loud! We are NOW!!! Because we had to learn from it and just think it could have been worse! BUT when you are going through it, you do think it can't get much worse, and that you are the ONLY one in the world that has all of this going on!
Can you go on welfare or disability right now? IF you go back to work before you SHOULD you will be in a really bad way honey! I TOTALLY understand that dilemma, I understand feeling helpless - as I'm sure we all do on here - but 1st is your health! We have a program here - I don't know about where you live - but here if you are having a hard time you can call the city and they will send you to places that donate back packs FILLED with school supplies! Staples supplies them when other people donate! You can talk to their school too and explain to them what's happening! Every year = with my kids schools - we buy MORE than they will ever need - the rest goes to children in the community that can't get the same supplies - Also talk to your church! There are MANY people hurting right now, ESPECIALLY in the States! So you're NOT alone, and you are NOT a failure - because even though you haven't said that I KNOW you feel that way, believe me I KNOW!!! You are a woman in pain - PERIOD!! And why add the guilt and despair to this painful situation. Like I said Lisa, you do NOT have to explain anything to myself or anyone on here. We ALL get it! We ALL have experienced it - except for DR because he hasn't delivered a Water Melon!!!! ;-) XD XD But we get that feeling of not being SUPER WOMAN anymore! WELL - here comes my Dawnism - Super woman never split open her bum now did she? Because I guarantee you if she had, she would NOT have been able to wear that suit!!!!!! ;-) ;-) XD OR the heels! And spin! Because if she had and she then went and did her spin - she would make a sound like an air whistle!!!!!! LOL LOL OOH MY HEAD!!!!!! ;-) XD XD
Here's a virtual hug honey!!!!!!! I know you are a spiritual woman - as is Wendy - I am too, BUT - don't hate me for saying this guys - sometimes God's busy! I believe he hears our prayers and our desperation, but that said sometimes he's not in the room! And you have to rely on that little voice inside you and beat EVERY instinct to disappear from life! I have prayed to God more times than I can count! I have prayed for my disabled son - when he has his operations, I have prayed for my mother EVERY time she had cancer - right till the moment she HAD to leave and rest!!! :'( I have prayed for people I have never and will never meet! Sometimes my prayers are answered and sometimes they aren't! I don't think I'm so special that ALL my prayers should be answered, but I am only human and HAVE to question why not? And you have to give yourself a break, so you CAN ask "Why not?, How come?, Why me? etc" I hope I haven't upset any of you with that comment. But I truly believe that you have to be able to ask the questions! I have a good friend of mine who is VERY religious! He has NO insurance for his farm and his house, for the 2nd year in a row, he has lost virtually ALL of his crop! I said to him "LARRY Why don't you get insurance?!!! He said "My insurance is the Lord!" I said "That's great Larry, but the Lord also created Insurance Agents! So don't feel guilty anymore OK? We ALL have done it, even the most spiritual! It's just another guilt you don't need in your life OK?
I drink Vega with skim milk! Every day, And I don't have the runs with it, I just am "SOFT!!!" WTMI!!! I know!! And think of your hair ;-) XD
I know you loosing your independence is a BIG deal - living with your mom etc - BUT think of it like many ethnic families, they ALL live together and save enough monies so they can get their own homes etc.! And it wasn't that long ago that Western Families did the same! Have you seen the size of houses from the beginning of the century! They used to bathe in the front room infront of each other - can you imagine o.O o.O "PAPPA!!!! What's happening?!!!!!" LOL o.O ;-) XD XD "Pappa do you want me to shampoo your back too?!!!" "Mamma! You've dropped something on the floor!!! o.O o.O " "BROWN ALERT BROWN ALERT!!!" LOL I'm sorry !!!! If you only knew what was in my head I could go on and on!!! LOL
Allow yourself to be pissed off Lisa! Scream into Sawyer ;-) XD Get rid of the emotional c**p as well as the physical OK? Because holding both in they start to fester and cause BIG problems! So just release OK! You can vent on here too you know?! So just know that things WILL get better, you're down right now, its not going to be forever! Just for now, you can repay your mom!! ASK for as much help as you can honey! Help is NEVER offered - especially from the government! You have to ask for it! And if others - such as friends and the church etc, think you are doing OK, then they wont offer any help right?
So much love, hugs, healing and friendship! And try and have some good sleep and we will talk tommorrow! Like I tell my boys - regarding suicide - "tommorrow could be the best day of your life!!!" and that is exactly what I wish for you and others hon! Night!
Can you go on welfare or disability right now? IF you go back to work before you SHOULD you will be in a really bad way honey! I TOTALLY understand that dilemma, I understand feeling helpless - as I'm sure we all do on here - but 1st is your health! We have a program here - I don't know about where you live - but here if you are having a hard time you can call the city and they will send you to places that donate back packs FILLED with school supplies! Staples supplies them when other people donate! You can talk to their school too and explain to them what's happening! Every year = with my kids schools - we buy MORE than they will ever need - the rest goes to children in the community that can't get the same supplies - Also talk to your church! There are MANY people hurting right now, ESPECIALLY in the States! So you're NOT alone, and you are NOT a failure - because even though you haven't said that I KNOW you feel that way, believe me I KNOW!!! You are a woman in pain - PERIOD!! And why add the guilt and despair to this painful situation. Like I said Lisa, you do NOT have to explain anything to myself or anyone on here. We ALL get it! We ALL have experienced it - except for DR because he hasn't delivered a Water Melon!!!! ;-) XD XD But we get that feeling of not being SUPER WOMAN anymore! WELL - here comes my Dawnism - Super woman never split open her bum now did she? Because I guarantee you if she had, she would NOT have been able to wear that suit!!!!!! ;-) ;-) XD OR the heels! And spin! Because if she had and she then went and did her spin - she would make a sound like an air whistle!!!!!! LOL LOL OOH MY HEAD!!!!!! ;-) XD XD
Here's a virtual hug honey!!!!!!! I know you are a spiritual woman - as is Wendy - I am too, BUT - don't hate me for saying this guys - sometimes God's busy! I believe he hears our prayers and our desperation, but that said sometimes he's not in the room! And you have to rely on that little voice inside you and beat EVERY instinct to disappear from life! I have prayed to God more times than I can count! I have prayed for my disabled son - when he has his operations, I have prayed for my mother EVERY time she had cancer - right till the moment she HAD to leave and rest!!! :'( I have prayed for people I have never and will never meet! Sometimes my prayers are answered and sometimes they aren't! I don't think I'm so special that ALL my prayers should be answered, but I am only human and HAVE to question why not? And you have to give yourself a break, so you CAN ask "Why not?, How come?, Why me? etc" I hope I haven't upset any of you with that comment. But I truly believe that you have to be able to ask the questions! I have a good friend of mine who is VERY religious! He has NO insurance for his farm and his house, for the 2nd year in a row, he has lost virtually ALL of his crop! I said to him "LARRY Why don't you get insurance?!!! He said "My insurance is the Lord!" I said "That's great Larry, but the Lord also created Insurance Agents! So don't feel guilty anymore OK? We ALL have done it, even the most spiritual! It's just another guilt you don't need in your life OK?
I drink Vega with skim milk! Every day, And I don't have the runs with it, I just am "SOFT!!!" WTMI!!! I know!! And think of your hair ;-) XD
I know you loosing your independence is a BIG deal - living with your mom etc - BUT think of it like many ethnic families, they ALL live together and save enough monies so they can get their own homes etc.! And it wasn't that long ago that Western Families did the same! Have you seen the size of houses from the beginning of the century! They used to bathe in the front room infront of each other - can you imagine o.O o.O "PAPPA!!!! What's happening?!!!!!" LOL o.O ;-) XD XD "Pappa do you want me to shampoo your back too?!!!" "Mamma! You've dropped something on the floor!!! o.O o.O " "BROWN ALERT BROWN ALERT!!!" LOL I'm sorry !!!! If you only knew what was in my head I could go on and on!!! LOL
Allow yourself to be pissed off Lisa! Scream into Sawyer ;-) XD Get rid of the emotional c**p as well as the physical OK? Because holding both in they start to fester and cause BIG problems! So just release OK! You can vent on here too you know?! So just know that things WILL get better, you're down right now, its not going to be forever! Just for now, you can repay your mom!! ASK for as much help as you can honey! Help is NEVER offered - especially from the government! You have to ask for it! And if others - such as friends and the church etc, think you are doing OK, then they wont offer any help right?
So much love, hugs, healing and friendship! And try and have some good sleep and we will talk tommorrow! Like I tell my boys - regarding suicide - "tommorrow could be the best day of your life!!!" and that is exactly what I wish for you and others hon! Night!
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Hi Lisa,
It is good to hear that you are healing. But I understand how stressful can it be to wait for your husbands interview. This is just my opinion, but maybe living with your parents will benefit all of you. You have to understand that this is just temporary thing. You don't have to rush things or anything but just try to see how will it go. I really hope that your husband will get that job.
I agree with Dawn, you have right yo be agree, take "Sawyer" and yell at him. (It feels funny to write this :-) )
Just stay positive and things will be good.
All the best to you and your family.
It is good to hear that you are healing. But I understand how stressful can it be to wait for your husbands interview. This is just my opinion, but maybe living with your parents will benefit all of you. You have to understand that this is just temporary thing. You don't have to rush things or anything but just try to see how will it go. I really hope that your husband will get that job.
I agree with Dawn, you have right yo be agree, take "Sawyer" and yell at him. (It feels funny to write this :-) )
Just stay positive and things will be good.
All the best to you and your family.
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I was looking at older post in this thread and noticed that sheekchic hasn't been with us for a long time. Does maybe some of you know what happened to her?
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