skittles1 wrote:
Recent studies suggest vitamin D3 will lessen the amount of painkiller needed for arthritis. It is working for my wife, who started with arthritis in her spine and neck in her 20s. Kept getting worse, and she is now in her 60s. 5,000 IU vitamin D3 every day makes a difference (she started with 5000 twice a day for the first week, then cut back to once a day). The secret to morphine is get on the 30 mg time release, take them every 12 hours like clockwork (set an alarm clock if needed). When the pain gets ahead of the morphine, the morphine doesn't work as well. So get ahead of the pain with the 15 mg instant release as needed, then keep ahead of the pain with the 30mg time release. -- Plastics Tekkie
I have rehumatoid Arthritis, & been diagnosed with it, for almost 5 yrs, & so far nothing works for my pain. Not Ibuprophen, Tylenol #3 or #4, Vicodin, Naproxyn, Dilaudid, or Morphine (15 or 30 mg). I been given so many pain meds & others, that I dont know what else to try, & I just deal with pain most of the time. Im scared to tell the Dr, that not even the Morphine works, beacuse she might think im getting addicted to pian killers. but the truth is, that my arthritis is that bad that nothing reallly helps :(
Recent studies suggest vitamin D3 will lessen the amount of painkiller needed for arthritis. It is working for my wife, who started with arthritis in her spine and neck in her 20s. Kept getting worse, and she is now in her 60s. 5,000 IU vitamin D3 every day makes a difference (she started with 5000 twice a day for the first week, then cut back to once a day). The secret to morphine is get on the 30 mg time release, take them every 12 hours like clockwork (set an alarm clock if needed). When the pain gets ahead of the morphine, the morphine doesn't work as well. So get ahead of the pain with the 15 mg instant release as needed, then keep ahead of the pain with the 30mg time release. -- Plastics Tekkie
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I've been on every pain medication I've ever heard of and more, and while everything made me ill ER morphine did not. Dilaudid is a semi-synthetic morphine. It is supposedly stronger than morphine, and it did make me ill on smaller amounts 6-8mg whereas 30mg ER morphine did not. Each people's receptors take it differently. It's a lot of trial and error to find what works. As far as the marijuana comment, yes it's much less addictive, but not effective at all for pain. Just makes you care less about it.
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I just want to post my personal views on the subject, i'm 25 years old and I've suffered from 3 kidney stones, latest one was yesterday actually, I was searching the internet to know about the expiration date of dilaudid since my last prescribed dose was 2 years ago.
At the hospital yesterday, they started to inject me 10 mg of morphine in 2 doses of 5mg each with an interval of 15 minutes between the dose, after the first dose, my pain went from 10/10 to 8/10 and after the second dose it went from 8/10 to 6/10 and lasted about 30-45 minutes before the pain went back to a very intense 9 or even 10.... They then gave me half that amount of dilaudid and 10 minutes after I was at a 1/10 pain or less and I could finally sleep.
Yesterday I just came back from the hospital and immediately went to sleep (Didn't go to the pharmacy to get my medication) And now I woke up at 4AM because of recurring pain from this kidney stone again. I proceeded in taking 2mg of dilaudid (from the 2 years + back prescription) + 2 pills of extra strenght tylenol. 40 minutes later i'm now pain free and browsing the net to see expiration date of this very powerfull painkiller.
If anyone has any info that could help me please post them
At the hospital yesterday, they started to inject me 10 mg of morphine in 2 doses of 5mg each with an interval of 15 minutes between the dose, after the first dose, my pain went from 10/10 to 8/10 and after the second dose it went from 8/10 to 6/10 and lasted about 30-45 minutes before the pain went back to a very intense 9 or even 10.... They then gave me half that amount of dilaudid and 10 minutes after I was at a 1/10 pain or less and I could finally sleep.
Yesterday I just came back from the hospital and immediately went to sleep (Didn't go to the pharmacy to get my medication) And now I woke up at 4AM because of recurring pain from this kidney stone again. I proceeded in taking 2mg of dilaudid (from the 2 years + back prescription) + 2 pills of extra strenght tylenol. 40 minutes later i'm now pain free and browsing the net to see expiration date of this very powerfull painkiller.
If anyone has any info that could help me please post them
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1 mg of dilaudid is equal to 4 mg of morphine! Dilaudid acts immediately, that is why ER's use it more so than morphine. Morphine does act fast as well, but is more for longer periods of pain relief. Meaning it last longer! Dilaudid is about 4 x stronger mg per mg than morphine!
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What you all are forgetting (or never knew in the first place) is that the scale is used for IV or IM
dosing mostly. Dilaudid (hydromorphone) is about 3 times stronger on a per-milligram basis if
given through a vein or soft tissue shot. When taken orally, hydromorphone tends to break down
more rapidly and therefore is only a little bit effective. I've never taken the hydromorphone as an
oral medication, always either IV or intra-nasally (snorted) as I know the effects vary so much.
Morphine is a strong drug, and a 30mg. pill is about as good as 3-4mg. h-morph in oral form, but
in an IV situation one barely needs more than a milligram to exceed the pain-killing properties of
morphine. If given the choice, I would take the Dilaudid and crush it for snorting, thereby at least
doubling and maybe even tripling the effect. Morphine is much the same, but harder to tolerate
intranasally because of the volume involved. An 8mg. Dilaudid will give about the same or more
relief orally as a 30mg. morphine tab, but injecting that much would seriously harm many people.
dosing mostly. Dilaudid (hydromorphone) is about 3 times stronger on a per-milligram basis if
given through a vein or soft tissue shot. When taken orally, hydromorphone tends to break down
more rapidly and therefore is only a little bit effective. I've never taken the hydromorphone as an
oral medication, always either IV or intra-nasally (snorted) as I know the effects vary so much.
Morphine is a strong drug, and a 30mg. pill is about as good as 3-4mg. h-morph in oral form, but
in an IV situation one barely needs more than a milligram to exceed the pain-killing properties of
morphine. If given the choice, I would take the Dilaudid and crush it for snorting, thereby at least
doubling and maybe even tripling the effect. Morphine is much the same, but harder to tolerate
intranasally because of the volume involved. An 8mg. Dilaudid will give about the same or more
relief orally as a 30mg. morphine tab, but injecting that much would seriously harm many people.
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What you all are forgetting (or never knew in the first place) is that the scale is used for IV or IM
dosing mostly. Dilaudid (hydromorphone) is about 3 times stronger on a per-milligram basis if
given through a vein or soft tissue shot. When taken orally, hydromorphone tends to break down
more rapidly and therefore is only a little bit effective. I've never taken the hydromorphone as an
oral medication, always either IV or intra-nasally (snorted) as I know the effects vary so much.
Morphine is a strong drug, and a 30mg. pill is about as good as 3-4mg. h-morph in oral form, but
in an IV situation one barely needs more than a milligram to exceed the pain-killing properties of
morphine. If given the choice, I would take the Dilaudid and crush it for snorting, thereby at least
doubling and maybe even tripling the effect. Morphine is much the same, but harder to tolerate
intranasally because of the volume involved. An 8mg. Dilaudid will give about the same or more
relief orally as a 30mg. morphine tab, but injecting that much would seriously harm many people.
dosing mostly. Dilaudid (hydromorphone) is about 3 times stronger on a per-milligram basis if
given through a vein or soft tissue shot. When taken orally, hydromorphone tends to break down
more rapidly and therefore is only a little bit effective. I've never taken the hydromorphone as an
oral medication, always either IV or intra-nasally (snorted) as I know the effects vary so much.
Morphine is a strong drug, and a 30mg. pill is about as good as 3-4mg. h-morph in oral form, but
in an IV situation one barely needs more than a milligram to exceed the pain-killing properties of
morphine. If given the choice, I would take the Dilaudid and crush it for snorting, thereby at least
doubling and maybe even tripling the effect. Morphine is much the same, but harder to tolerate
intranasally because of the volume involved. An 8mg. Dilaudid will give about the same or more
relief orally as a 30mg. morphine tab, but injecting that much would seriously harm many people.
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Sorry about the double-post, for some reason all I get is a blank page upon reply???
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Dilaudid is the best medication for pain hands down. i recently underwent a surgery that involved 56 incisions to the bottom of my feet, a 6 inch incision to the side of my foot, 8mm of bone removed, my tendon cut resized-restretched-re attached... and to top it off 2 capsules around my joint re attached... needless to say, i was in PAIN... they started me off on morphine and demoral(sp.) that pretty much did absolutely NOTHING. they switched me to dilaudid, and life became AMAZING!!! pain was gone, i could finally sleep, and i felt the healing process went way better because my mind was able to concentrate on healing and not on the pain. dilaudid is amazing and i recommend it to ANYONE who has to have a painful procedure done.
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Dilaudid is commonly used these days for pain related to cancer/cancer treatment. Some people can not tolerate oral morphine but a shot if morphine works well. Same goes for dilaudid. If you receive an injection or via IV, it seems to work very nicely as opposed to taking pills. I have not heard of anyone having the same kind kind of stomach upset taking oral dilaudid as they did with oral morphine.
Yes, both are highly addictive and usually given as a last resort, as in a a terminal cancer patient. And if you are taking one of these drugs AND the doctor has you on a Fentanyl patch, then say your goodbyes now because there isn't much more they can do for you medicine wise.
Yes, both are highly addictive and usually given as a last resort, as in a a terminal cancer patient. And if you are taking one of these drugs AND the doctor has you on a Fentanyl patch, then say your goodbyes now because there isn't much more they can do for you medicine wise.
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At 19 I was diagnosed with chronic pancreatitis. I have been in and out the hospital several times in 5 years. I have found as severe as my pain was the 2mg iv diluadid worked better than 8mg of iv morphine. I find that with chronic pain there will be an addiction problem, but don't torture yourself with the pain rather than relieving the pain. Addictions can be beaten, but without the medication that pain will always be there!
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to the person saying all of us people who use pain pill are addicts i was injured in iraq by an ied fell about 15 feet and broke my back now on pain meds every day suppose im an addict too
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Mate I'm an Australian Vietnam Veteran, wounded by a "fragmentation Grenade", the surgeons removed 71 pieces of steel from my body I'm suffering and still suffer "chronic pain" I've got a suggestion for you and it goes something like this: " Extract your head from out of your arse, and IF and I mean IF you have a brain, engage it before engaging your mouth. It's obvious the two aren't connected at the moment - "go get a life, your wasting the air I need!
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Hello everyone, from my experience i have found that hydromorphone or dilaudid 2mg works wonders compared to the 5 mg oxycodone that i was taking. I had surgery done on my jaw in late spring last year and the oxycodone worked well then but i had to combine it with Advil to give it a little extra boost.
Last week i had developed an abscessed in my jaw which caused unbearable pain to the point i couldn't think, eat, etc. the pain casued sweating and depression. Marijuana did nothing, my oxycodone did nothing and advil 400mg liquids worked for about 40 min. admitted myself to er and after 9 hours sitting in a chair in excruciating pain the nurse injected me with morphine and it had almost no effect after half hour so the doctor gave me the 2mg dilaudid and after about 20 min the pain started to lessen. The pain is there still but its the kinda pain you get if slightly pinch your skin... not intolerable or sever. The pain will actually vanish somewhat because my mind isn't thinking about it anymore and its a great relief from before. It is a nice relaxing agent too. It is similar to smoking a small quantity of weed and you get that nice warm feeling and thats about it. Im just glad i can eat and sleep now with this miracle drug. only wish the antibiotics were as cheap as these pain meds.
Last week i had developed an abscessed in my jaw which caused unbearable pain to the point i couldn't think, eat, etc. the pain casued sweating and depression. Marijuana did nothing, my oxycodone did nothing and advil 400mg liquids worked for about 40 min. admitted myself to er and after 9 hours sitting in a chair in excruciating pain the nurse injected me with morphine and it had almost no effect after half hour so the doctor gave me the 2mg dilaudid and after about 20 min the pain started to lessen. The pain is there still but its the kinda pain you get if slightly pinch your skin... not intolerable or sever. The pain will actually vanish somewhat because my mind isn't thinking about it anymore and its a great relief from before. It is a nice relaxing agent too. It is similar to smoking a small quantity of weed and you get that nice warm feeling and thats about it. Im just glad i can eat and sleep now with this miracle drug. only wish the antibiotics were as cheap as these pain meds.
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I'm 20 weeks into preganacy and I was put on dailuited for my headaches. It works somewhat ok if I get the headache early enough my does is 2mg every 8 hours or as needed. They said that my baby is doing good but theres a tiny chance that my baby well end up being attdicted to the pain killers if used to much. I hope when my baby is born everything ends up fine I think its a good pill the first time I got the shot I had relief in a matter of minutes. the odd thing that I started to know about hospitals is they use to use demerol not as much anymore many hospitals don't even carry.
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I recently was in the ER due to extreme pain from my fibromyalsia. I could barely sit or lay still in the ER bed-usually at home would lay in the shower for hours to ease the pain. The docs started giving me diludid-it gave me almost no relief. I am so surprised to hear the responses here saying it was more effective than moraphine. The doctor was surprised how it had no affect on me, but also had no knowledge of my previous extensive medical history. I was on Tramadol, Viccodin, and Moraphine for over 3 years, so maybe I have a high tolerance. Is it possible that maybe Diluadid affects people differently?
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