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Dear Sir,

I too am on Oxys 20 mg every 4 hrs,plus I am on Fentanyl patches (1 patch every 3 days)I have a disease call Spinal Synosis which crumbles the bones too nothing and it is painful, I have had my entire neck rebuilt by a special doctor w/ NASA help.being addicted to two types of very potent drugs is horrible > : ( I admire your strength & courage. I some how wish I could do what your doing. Though my will power isn't as strong as yours plus the fact I'm a single parent doesn't help much.I do however have faith in Christ too pull me through this.I dream of the day when I can be opiet free !! I have one question for you. I have been on these for over 3yrs now & for the last 10 months or so I have begun too sweat awful, for hours & hours a day I'll go through 3 shirts in a day it's crazy, I was wondering if you have experienced this quaint but awful problem?
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I have a bit of a story too, just like all of us.  I tried Oxy out of pure curiosity. Loved it of course. Before i knew it, i was up to over 800mgs a day. Yes! 10-12 80mg green oxy OP's a day. I always did 2x 80mg OP's at a time.  Did the Microwave technique (not gonna explain, dont want to give anyone any bright ideas) Needless to say its a way to get rid of the wax in the OP's and make them snort-able. Works great. But also made me super addicted to them.  I tried to taper..couldnt. Tried cold turkey...yeah right, good luck on that one. Only way for me was Rehab.  I went to a Rapid detox clinic, was in and out in 3 days. They put me under and induced WD's while i slept. Woke up with no WD's. $8k down but off Oxy. MDS Detox saved my life.  Give them a call.
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I've heard of this technique but I'm uncertain if my INS. will cover it,idk the phone number & I live in Pa. I'm only on disability so @ 1500 a month I don't think I can reach the goal of 8K however I am willing to give them a call, could you supply me with the phone number. I'm a little worried about being taking off the drug in short because of the wonderful withdraws I too have tried cold turkey cold turkey my but I felt more like cooking turkey rather then cold... I would never resort too snorting,(maybe I should not use the word "never") lol I want 2 thank-you for replying to my post : ) 1 last thing did you have a side effect of sweating uncontrollably? If so what did you do too help relive this gosh awful problem...

Thank You,

Richard
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I am sorry to hear about your condition, but I do not adhere to the belief that everyone should stay away from this medication. I have several herinated disks neve damage, 2 stents in legs and arm. now scheduled for hip surgery.I HAVE BEEN TAKEN OXYCONTIN FOR 12 YRS NOW and i do not abuse it. my quality of life is now tolerable. please don't knock people who actually need it
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i myself is quiting cold turkey ,i have been om oxy's for about 7 years only 30mg twice a day and since thursday morning i havn't took any because its NOT  a life on them..Thursdays around 10 pm i had the runs and they lasted till today which is Saturday at 1:30 pm and i had them bad and now they slowed right down the sweats were not bad but sleep was horrrilbe ,i think by tomorrow i will have it beat i hope ,,,i do not want peeps that take 100mg twice a day to quit cool turkey because you could have a heartattack from it...My back pain is bad but i got to be strong i have a few more hours to go and the worst is the 0 to 48 hours i find because now i am at the 50 hour mark and the withdrawls are slowing down.but it's tough and if your willing you can do it...will let peeps know more in 24 hours how are things going and with more info..the worst is the damn diarrhia
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i just now going trrew my frist day of with drawls im so sick but i keep telling my self hang in there im only 22 years old and i never tat this drug would destroy me like this
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RcsLoved oxy's, still do but no more prescriptions. Have a connect, but it's too expensive. Had a problem with my brain a years ago and was hospitalized for more than a month. The doctors gave me valium for spasms, ms contin for pain and perc 10s for breakthrough pain. Still have spasms which I'm prescribe klonopin .5. T hey worked kinda...then had a root canal about a year ago and was given perc 7.5. It all went downhill from there. When on the percs muscle spasms were nonexistant. Had a friend that could get 10/325 and i would just take them($10 apiece). That went on for like a month, not everyday, but most days. He dried up and I was afraid of wds, but didn't get them. Just went back to the klonopin. A little while later I was offered a30 roxicodone. Split in half and loved it. Stated getting them all the time and just take them 3 hours before bed (15). Past two months I was noticing that I'd take the half if the 30 and then an hour later go back to the bottle and bite off a quarter i if the other half. By two weeks ago I was just taking the whole 30. Decided i have to stop mostly for money reasons and I have a 19 month old daughter and I wasn't her to be proud to say her father. Nobody knows that I take these pills a much as I do and only my wife and best friend know that I take them at all. So tuesday 22nd August I took my last half of a pill. A little queasy, insomnia, but the restless legs and arms are the absolute worst. I know I can beat thus thing and have to because I'm not going back. Five days of little to no sleep b/c off restlessness. Anyone know how long the rls and arms usually last? Klonopin hasn't made it any better and don't wasn't another pill to help get off this oil just to have the same problems getting off the new pill. Hopefully it's almost over our at least starting to get better. This sucks and I injure my habit is a lot less than what I've seen in thus board, but it is still draining . Thanks to everyone who will read this.
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the guy was right about a month and your golden, but that thought will always be there trust me i know. I made it 10 months sober and fell back off the wagon, i REALLY wish i never did cause now i'm struggling worse then i ever have to get back on and i haven't made it yet, i'll make it 3 maybe 4 days max then i gotta have something to take it away cause it's to strong. But yet again i'm up to 120 mg a day sometimes more, I envy any one who has the will power to go sober cold turkey cause like i sad i know first hand how it is and what it can do. hopefully just maybe ill find it again after trying for the 6th time if not i'll have to do the one thing i swore i never would and thats get help getting off. GOOD LUCK ALL WHO DO IT.
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I'm had an addition to oxy as well. Physicians typically prescribe it without educating the patient first. I believe they should have to see what a person on oxy acts like and then see a person going through withdraw. I'm on day 3 of quiting cold turkey. I'm strong enough to have the will power to throw the pills in the trash and not look back. This is my first time of quiting oxy in 2 years. Oxy is so addictive. I never thought I would be an addict. I get the oxy with a prescription, nothing on the street, etc. I've never done that. I did notice over time the oxy wasn't giving the affects it once did. The physician had me take 3 other pills with it. I was in another world each day. Some days I was moody and other days a very fun person. Oxy is weird and so many are addicted to it and don't know what to do. I agree the proper way is probably to see a pain mgmt clinic to slowly wing you off of it unless you have strong, very strong will power. Each day goes by I feel just a little better. I figure by 2-3 more days I'll be much, much better. The withdrawal symptoms are horrible. Diarrhea, Day/Night sweats, Unable to sleep. Maybe 1-2 hours of sleep is all I've gotten in 3 days. One or two more days to go and I feel a good night sleep coming and probably naps during the day to get caught up. I hope I never see one of those oxy's again. I wouldn't take them if they were free. Too much habit forming with addition to always need it or need higher dosage. I've told one person, my partner and told him I was going through withdrawal. He is giving me the space and time to get through this week. I'm too embarrassed to tell anyone else. I'm ashamed of letting pills control me and my life. The hardest part (the first 3 days) will be over in a few more hours, then at night I don't even think of it. I try to stay busy, watch movies, go out running, anything to keep my mind off pills. For those who can't get there head up, then I would recommend a pain clinic to slowly take you off them. I'm only on the 20mg/ twice per day and only took one Sunday @ 11am. No oxy Mon, Tues, and today is Wed, still not taking oxy. Quitting cold turkey isn't easy, I have notes around that I can do it. I have it on a calendar and I keep telling myself (one more day), after that passes (one more day)..yeah, it's hard, but I would rather do it on my own without a slow withdraw from it. I told myself a week of side effects is nothing if I can get this out of me and not ever crave it. I'm almost there..getting closer each day. I don't know if this drug should even be available. I know it's good, but so, so, so addictive. I'm a normal guy, no shooting, snorting, or whatever else some users do. I was taking a 20mg of oxy twice per day and sometimes only once per day. Someone wrote on here somewhere if you can make it a month your "golden". I hope that's true. My goal is I've quit, now I never want to start back. One pill can do a lot of damage, it's just not worth the high or good feeling. Once you start, it's forever unless you decide or are made to quit. The withdrawal is not easy, so just remember that if you do start. If I were at over 80mg per day, then I would go to a pain clinic. It may cost money, but in the long run which will cost you more. The lifetime of Oxy.
Good luck. I'm 74 hours clean so far.


Dear Sir,
I too am on Oxys 20 mg every 4 hrs,plus I am on Fentanyl patches (1 patch every 3 days)I have a disease call Spinal Synosis which crumbles the bones too nothing and it is painful, I have had my entire neck rebuilt by a special doctor w/ NASA help.being addicted to two types of very potent drugs is horrible > : ( I admire your strength & courage. I some how wish I could do what your doing. Though my will power isn't as strong as yours plus the fact I'm a single parent doesn't help much.I do however have faith in Christ too pull me through this.I dream of the day when I can be opiet free !! I have one question for you. I have been on these for over 3yrs now & for the last 10 months or so I have begun too sweat awful, for hours & hours a day I'll go through 3 shirts in a day it's crazy, I was wondering if you have experienced this quaint but awful problem?


Yes, You most certainly have. Your body is well adjusted and now tolerant to what your taking and you are craving a stronger or more often more of the same. You have built up a tolerance and now what your taking isn't enough. In order to feel like you did 10 months ago you need more of or a stronger strength! I would see your doctor maybe he can switch or adjust your meds,Don't go through that because it just makes you take more on your own to get to where you should be. Your better off letting the Doctor adjust them!
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Every( BODY ) is different !! Couple good ideas while going through withdrawal though Popsicle trick nice and Hydration is important ! It's also helps for flushing your system! I've been a user since 2004 both codone and cotin ! Prescription for both abused it in 12 days and bought it for 28 more 60 mg cotin a day and 500 + mg a day of codone up my nose! It is now 60 days clean ! Couldn't get clean with subs or being home ! Three kids job and a wife ! Went to a rehab , detoxed under the care of a doc and supervised buy caring experienced recovering employees !! Safest environment to deal with the emotional and physical withdrawal has to offer us!! Also I'm am a victim of spinalfusion and cervical fusion ! Have also been diagnosed with rhumitoid arthritis ! Retraining our mind that we r not in as much pain as we have been lead to believe we were in for the love of feeling nothing at all , in my opinion is the hardest part of this recovery process ! Learn about MINDFULLNESS and meditation great nonnarcotic harmless medicine! God bless

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I went cold turkey after taking it about at least 150mg to 250 mg daily for 2 and half year.

It was hell for me for the first week, but after that, everyday feels better. Now I am on 2 and half without it and I feel much much

better. But this was the hardest thing I have ever go through in my life. Now my buddy put a bottle of them in front of me, and all I can think of is the pain I had to go through. I will ever never touch this sh*t again, even in serve pain!

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I'm going to give everyone here the most useful information on withdrawals and detoxing from oxycodone, and all opiates in general, that you might ever get. I know this stuff because I've been through it many times and I've been to detox. First of all, you cannot die from opiate withdrawal. You can feel like you're going to, but you simply cannot die from opiate withdrawal alone. Also, detox is over in five days maximum. So don't worry, you're not going to be dealing with this longer than that, and usually its shorter than that. My body dispenses of opiates very quickly. So what that means is I feel withdrawals symptoms not too long after my last dose, but my detox is usually over in 2-4 days. So when you read online that you'll be dealing with this for weeks, whoever you're reading from has no idea what they are talking about and they should be studiously ignored. I can't tell you how many times I read that and I was totally discouraged from even attempting it. So find comfort in the fact that it will end in under a week.

Now before you carry on reading about what you might experience, PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY: if you scare yourself, and you tell yourself that you're about to go through hell, and you look up every symptom, you wait for every symptom to hit you and you concentrate on them, your detoxing experience will be much worse than it might have been. So please, take this advice: don't sit around waiting for hell, because you will get what you asked for.

Of course, weening off is the best thing you can do. If you can ween off, you can avoid detox symptoms altogether. Cutting down 5-10 mgs of your normal dose each day is the best way to go about it. If you can do that, then you will probably feel no symptoms at all, but cravings can always be present. Obviously, not everyone either has the will power or the supply to do this, and weening is not easy either. For a lot of us, getting rid of the supply is the only way we can do it. But either way, do yourself a favor and PLAN.

The worst thing that will happen is you might become depressed. I'm not talking bummed out; I'm talking about a seemingly perpetual feeling of isolation coupled with confusion and just downright crippling depression. Anyone can deal with a flu -- depression is the worst thing. But remember, you aren't alone. People are dealing with this everyday. There are people that love you. And even if they don't know and/or they can't understand, they do love you and if you can find it in yourself to explain to them what you're going through, they will most likely want to help. Unfortunately, many friends and family members can make things worse, and they often do. This is simply because they just don't get it. It isn't their fault and it's not yours, it's just the way things are. A great way to get through this is to talk to someone who either has gone through it, or someone open-minded enough that can empathize. My best friend Jessye had never detoxed from opiates, yet by simply being such an awesome person she helped me more than anyone in my life at the time, and I am immensely indebted to her for that. If you don't have a person like that, it's ok! Read about people on threads like these, talk to people online, read everything that is comforting and reminds you that people do this all the time and that you can do it too. it might sound stupid and corny, but positive reenforcement is an amazing thing... and it can mean the difference between hell and a walk in the park.

So for those of you going cold turkey or mostly cold turkey, you're going to need a few things. The most important thing you need you may not expect, but it's Loperamide, otherwise known as anti-diarrheal medication. A good way to know if you'll need it is if you became constipated when you first started taking opiates, or up to this day for that matter. The worse that constipation was, the worse your diarrhea will be. This is important. Diarrhea will make you dehydrated. Dehydration is your worst enemy. Water is your first source of energy. A lack of it will make you extremely fatigued when you were already going to be, and it will also make you even more depressed. Loperamide and water are your two best friends. Don't take too much loperamide, take it as you need it. But since it is technically an opiate (don't worry, you won't be getting high and it won't slow down your detox) addicts will need more than the recommended one pill at a time. You may not believe it, but because it is an opiate, it will also relieve other symptoms. It is a life-saver. So drink as much water as you can stand, take loperamide as you need it, and if you can bring yourself to do it, try to eat HEALTHY foods. Eating can be difficult (at least it was for me) but try your hardest. The next things you need are over the counter sleeping medication, ibuprofen or tylenol, and of course: something for nausea. You're going to be tired, and sleeping through as much of this experience as possible is something that you definitely want to accomplish. Unfortunately, even if you're exhausted, that doesn't mean you'll be sleeping much.

Unlike most places, the detox I went to used absolutely no opiates whatsoever for withdrawals (unless you count loperamide). Instead, they treated each symptom individually, by giving you whatever over the counter medication corresponded to your complaints. It's the best detox in Massachusetts, and it was the best situation I could have ever asked for. But disregarding all the emotional and educational support, which was immensely helpful, everything they did besides monitoring my vitals I could have done at home. I'm not saying it was a waste, it certainly wasn't, I'm simply saying that with the right mindset you can do this at home. And if you can't tell anyone about this, just tell them you're sick; you'll have all the symptoms to make it seem that way anyway.

In summation: do your best to ween off. If you can't, get as much sleep as possible, treat each symptom as they come to you, drink tons of water and try to eat, do your best to sleep, and if you can't sleep, keep yourself busy by exposing yourself to positive reenforcement, and STAY POSITIVE IN GENERAL. Anyone can do this. It will be over in five days max.

Oh and also, remember this: before you were an addict, you may not have been happy, but there were things in life that made you happy. Find out what those things were, and get back to doing them. Get your life back, it's a terrible thing to waste. Junkies and addicts are not m****s, they are people who got themselves into a mess. You're not an id**t, you just screwed up. Everyone is guilty of f*****g up. If you want to get sober you can get sober. Relapsing happens. I've done it many times, but the important thing is that you get out of this wretched cycle in which your entire life revolves around either getting high or preventing getting sick. 

I hope this helped someone. I wish I had all of this knowledge before I went through it. If anyone has anything they want to say to me, or suggestions they want to make, or questions they want to ask etc.  ***this post is edited by moderator *** *** private e-mails not allowed***Please read our Terms of Use

 

 My name is Jack. Good  luck!

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I was a brickmason for 30 years and toward the end my back pain became unbarable.  The back surgen just said all the cushons between my vetebra were gone.  He didn't believe my pain was as great as I said and told me I would have to make the dession about surgery.  After I woke from surgery he said my back was broken and it was a good thing HE operated because I could have been paralized.  A few years later another vetebra was found broken.  Another surgery.  Then the pain killers were introduced to me.  I had no idea of the results.  The first doctor put me on Avinza.  Pure morphine.  I couldn't go to the bathroom and I became someone else.  I got very angry and quit cold turkey.  Finally told my doctor because the pain was getting really bad.  He put me on oxicotin three times a day and as a filler oxicodone three times a day.  I had this doctor for over thirty years and he is a great doctor however I'm not sure he understands the downsides of these drugs.  I quit cold turkey again because of the constipation.  It was very bad.  I had to go to the hospital for heart palpations.  What people on here don't talk about is that every doctor you see, knowing you are on pain killers put you in the catagory of drug addict.  I went to a new primary doctor and he did not treat me with any respect.  He thought I was doctor shoping.  I was not.  He sent me to pain management.  I had stopped taking all drugs again cold turkey.  I first talked to a physicans assistant at pain management.  I told her that I did not want any more back surgeries nor drugs but I was hoping there was something they could do for the pain other than drugs.  She apeared angry and asked me what I wanted her to do.  I told her I guess I wasted my time coming there.  She left the room and got a doctor to talk to me.  He talked me into going back on oxicodone 15mg three times a day.  A few months later I hadn't gone to the bathroom in 8 days.  The doctor at the hospital gave me a shot in the stomach to make me go to the bath room.  The doctor at pain management wrote me a perscription for the stomach shots.  The insurance co wrote me and said they would not fill it again.  Insurance companies decide if you live or die.  Next they burned 4 nerves on each side of my spine on two different days.  This was two years after starting pain management they new that was an option the first day I went there.  Last week I stoped going to pain management and went to my primary care doctor.  I told him why and that I was going to stop taking these pills.  He was glad to hear that however he said I might have to keep taking them because of my back.  I told him I would rather lie in my bed the rest of my life and take the pain rather than taking these pills.  I cut my dosage in half the first three days and this is my second day of not taking any pills.  I have all the simptoms from withdrawal you have read on this forum.  I will tell all of you that are in pain that if you are at the end of your life and have something that is killing you, yes take pain meds.  If not have a serious talk with your primary doctor about alternatives to pain meds about your pain.  The nerve burn has decreased my pain about 40%.  The pain is bearable now but barely.  The bad news is the nerves grow back in 6 to 8 months.  If you are considering back surgery, reserch this.  The fact is surgerns operate, pain managements hand out pills, and insurance companies don't want to pay.  For thirteen years I have had to fight scratch and chew my way through for answers, trusting doctors and in the end messed up for life.  Anybody that is considering taking opiates for recreation would have to be nuts.  When you start taking pain pills for your pain, you started out with one problem and after you start taking legal pain meds for your pain you end up with a lot more than just one problem.  I've had my gaul bladder taken out, and hernia surgery from straining on the toilet.  Investigate any procedure your doctor is advising, get a second or third openion, and don't trust anybody 100% with your health. 

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I really wish your email address was visible. This is the best post I've seen. I'm understaking yet another wihdrawal from oxy, taking 7.5 a day. i have gone down and not up in dose. I have spinal stenosis, myelopathy and cord impingement plus autoimmune. It's trying to live with the pain that is so hard and why I've gone back on, after so many attempts to get off. I agree with you about the lopermadine. That stuff has saved me each time. Literally. I'm going to do as you say here in staying positive and taking each symptom at at time. I tend to set myself up for failure when I think about the "hell" it is to go cold turkey, however, last time I did it, the ONLY thing that drew me back was pain. I'm waiting for a surgery which I pray will help pain, but I hate being on these. Even taking them as prescribed, is awful, even though it kills pain. It's such a quandry to be in. thank you again.
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