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Thanks for such an encouraging post. any ideas on best way to wean. i cut to 1mg and was sick by noon next day
today i got 2mg. feeling better. im scared. how fast should i go. a friend is giving my doses. any advice? please pray for me.
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i have gone 18 days and god is not hear . the devil has still got a hold of me.

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I just did two years in prison. I've been out for about 11 months now and have been back on subs for about 5 months. I don't know what made me go back to doing them after being clean so long and getting so close to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ again. I refuse to be living in sin day after day because I have had enough. I started it all when I was 19 with Oxys I got to get back with God like I was. I have been taking .5 or 1 milligram of subutex a day it hasn't been that long though I have with you all day off of everything even 160 milligrams of methadone cold turkey. I just pray that I'm not too sick this time. my mom and I are doing it together with please keep us in your prayers. I don't have the luxury of getting away I need to work everyday. and what you wrote was a very beautiful and encouraging thing.
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I just did two years in prison. I've been out for about 11 months now and have been back on subs for about 5 months. I don't know what made me go back to doing them after being clean so long and getting so close to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ again. I refuse to be living in sin day after day because I have had enough. I started it all when I was 19 with Oxys I got to get back with God like I was. I have been taking a half or 1- 8 milligram of subutex a day it hasn't been that long though I have with you all day off of everything even 160 milligrams of methadone cold turkey. I just pray that I'm not too sick this time. my mom and I are doing it together. please keep us in your prayers. I don't have the luxury of getting away I need to work everyday. and what you wrote was a very beautiful and encouraging thing.
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You still responding , today is my 14th day clean and im 4 months pregnant, i still feel blah, but better, I feel like this will never end but god willing it will, reading this helps that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, please pray for me too it does get better right?
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 I was very pleased to read your post. I am happy to hear thereare success stories for getting off suboxone. I am now in the proccess of withdrawl from suboxone. I started on it 7 months ago at 24 mgs and have tapered down to just 2mg and now have taken nothing for almost 48 hrs. I am already very uncomfortable and I know it will get worse. I just hope it doesnt last for weeks like it is now. I am also a believer and I know God is with me and he will help me get through this for this I am sure of. God bless you and thank you for your insight.

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Hi ThankGod!

Thank you so much for your post. I am trying to help my sister get off subutex. Picking her up next week to come live with me. I'm going to show her your story bc your situation is similar to hers. I've registered a few minutes ago and waiting on my email to be able to contact you if she needs to. Thanks again!

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Thank you for your post. I am trying to come off of opiates. Actually I have tried several times. I usually make it a week or so, then I give up hope and go back to using. I am currently on day5. My stomach is very messed up. I am still awake at 439 in the morning, supposed to go to work at 8. It is inspiring to see a time line. I will try my hardest and thanks again for the post.
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There is a light at the end of the tunnel but it's more like 3-5 months, not 20 something days... unless you havn't bee using that long.  Withdrawals might be over for the most part but you will still might have depression, some anxiety, and for me, a huge lack of motivation.  I'm on day 48 and still have stomach issues (you know what i mean), due to excess moisture in the body from the opiates drying me out for the last 5 years.  Wake up with Runny nose somedays and somedays i don't.  For the first month i couldn't sleep that well, woke up at 5AM most mornings and layed in bed for 3 hours before work.  5 hours sleep average.  almost two months in, i still have some but not a lot of trouble sleeping, occasional sneezing fits but not as bad as before, fatigue is occuring less.  This week i am starting to feel a little better mentally in the way that i have more drive to get things done, like work for example.  My work suffered greatly as a result of not having that pep in the morning from taking a sub.

Dr.'s are ignorant on suboxone withdrawal

First two weeks were real crappy, this is coming off about .25mg/day.  Doctor says it's all in my head and in allll his years treating with suboxone (at this point he points to his cabinet of folders full of his different patients he perscribes subs to)  i'm only the second person to have a problem coming off.  He usually has people jump at 2mg and says no one ever has a problem.  Either he's lying to me or his patients are lying to him.  Doctors are told by the pharmaceutical company that makes suboxone how to treat with it and how to get people off of it.  They are always going to say that it's a lot easier than it really is just like Purdue did with Oxycontin in the 90's.  C'mon, 2MG?  we are here cutting our 2mg film into 8th's and still have long withdrawal.  Perhaps suboxone is out of your body after x amount of days but when your body has been dependent on opiates/opioids for the last several years it's going to take longer than a few weeks before it works right again.

I guess it all depends on how long you've been dependent and how screwed up your brain has become where it will take longer to work right again.   For me i remember using suboxone for a week maybe 1.5 - 2 years into full dependency, and i was able to stop with no issues and felt fine after a week or so.  6 to 7 years in it's not going to be that easy.  My endorphines are not flowing yet.  I am looking forward to the 90 day mark to see where i'm at by then.  by 5 months i expect to be back to feeling normal again after almost  7 years of dependency.  

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Hi my name is Aaron I am ready to stop subutex its been almost 4 years and I walk with the LORD JESUS IS MY SAVUIOR my relationship is growing as I pray and read more in gods word it is written IF YOU ABIDE BY MY WORD I WILL ABIDE IN YOU,isn't that great. Being said this I am worried to stop I take 4 mg 3 times a day I got a good job3 kids and my wife is clean and never done anything work a good job 40 hrs a week as well, but I work about 55hrs a week i know my bosses and workers will know something wrong with me if I stop now, a salary employee as well I got to find the time were I can stay at home and detox I got to have more faith in the LORD we are fortunate the LORD has give me and my wife what we have but im so tired of taking subutex it like my life is just revolving around it I depend on it to get out of bed your story give me hope I know GOD has big plans for me and I wont to peruse GODS work your story was inspiring to me every word you wrote about detox is all true that how I know you been through it you described the symptoms precisely write me back it you can I am a GOD FEARING MAN HE IS IN MY HEART AND I WONT TO SERVE HIM BETTER AND BETTER. THANK YOU AARON

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I am on about day 5...sick, sick, sick..have to go to work...don't know how I am going to make it...no sleep in 3 days...Thank you for your post...hope I can be as brave as you to get thru this.

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Here is one thing to consider when imagining the strength of this "miracle pill". Most of us get 8mg tablets. So imagine 1/8th of a pill is 1 mg. thats a fairly small chunk. Ok now consider this: 0.250 mg of subutex is the equivalent dose of morphine given in hospitals for breakthrough pain that lortab and percocet cant manage. Dont believe me? Hold a pill under your tongue in full WD and see how fast you are at ease. (I mean... DON'T!!! just trust me this stuff is insanely strong and was only on study for 6 weeks before FDA approval) Now think about jumping off at 2mg!! Thats the difference between stepping out of a car or leaping off of a skyscraper!!! My point: 2 MG IS NOT A LOW DOSE!! It is an extremely high dose and nowhere near what you want to jump from. For those on super high doses (16 mg/day). You CAN taper down quickly! Reason: subutex has a ceiling effect at which point it is effective. The molecule is a partial agonist which binds much stronger to receptors ( hence precipitated withdrawal if used before normal withdrawal from say hydro/oxy/heroin etc. it will kick the natural opiates off the receptors by FORCE immediately and put you in BAD trouble as it takes residence.). I said all that to say this: jump from a TINY crumb as your last dose which you have been able to space between days. Will this take time to get to? Yes once you go below the 1 mg/ day level is the toughest part. But its not A strategy its THE strategy. If you do it properly you will spend no days in agony, have little to no acute withdrawal and be able to live your life uninterrupted. I did it. I have tried so many times before I did the research. Did you know the half life (time it takes to metabolize half the dose you take) is 36-72 hours based on metabolism age past use etc. that means you are constantly keeping an insanely high level at all times!!! 2mg per day every day means you have way more in you than the 2 mg you are taking. So learn this info, tell others and taper, skipping days knowing that, at best every day and a half your level is 50% lower. I had almost no withdrawal at all. Like: less than a cold, let alone the flu. NO meds needed. You wont be off in a week or two but you will make it so much easier. And yes give your life to Jesus. He died for you and theres no sense getting sober to die and go to hell for eternity because you rejected his salvation by grace through faith alone. Shalom and onward christian soldiers. You can do this.
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God bless us all
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It is actually becoming easier to jump from 2mgs. Tapering down your only accumulating potent strong buprenorphine in your receptors.. Jumping from 2mg lets the half life taper you off so you do not feel that sh*t. Jumping from 0.2mg is like jumping off short acting opiates except it last MUCH LONGER..You wasted your time tapering and made a big mistake tapering..Read all the sub stories out there and you'll come to the conclusion those who jump off from 1mg and above have better time and recover faster then those who jump off below 1mg. If you've been on it for over 6 months then it's going to be hard..If it's 6 to 7 years then am sorry it will take half amount of that time for you to even feel semi normal mentally. Am sorry but it is the truth. This is why nobody makes it off suboxone or does not recover. Life is destroyed.
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Wow u just made my day and changed my attitude about everything. FINALLY A POSITIVE STORY. I can and will do this. I Love u for sharing ur experience.
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