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You can kind of see their logic though...doing it whilst you were awake and preoccupied meant you wasn’t lying alone in your bed getting aroused by the sounds. I could try that I suppose, but not sure it’d work for me...
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I just remember being that age and wanting to know what it felt to have something inside me so I went for a very slim glass unphallic shape dildo. I didn't want anything with batteries or that could get water damage, as I wanted to play as little part as possible (didn't want to know how often the batteries needed changing etc). Plus I find glass to be the easiest to keep hygienically clean. Beats having to look for phallic shaped objects from around the house like most us intrigued girls had to do.
Yes that was his kind of thing and I took part initially to please him, I got no excitement out of it what so ever. I was petrified of bing caught, and I've refused to do it since we were!! I don't think he'd enjoy our eldest listening in per se, it's more he isn't concerned. We still manage it at least once a week, but even then I'm doing it out of pressure and not because I want to and I'm on pins at the slightest noise. But thats started to make me feel a little resentful that he's having all the fun, so to speak.
I can't say how I'd react when she's older, but I'd presume I would still be aroused by the sounds...not sure its something you grow out of. But doubt I'd go out of my way to listen in. Not sure thats relevant to my issue now though.
I've only opened up on here as it's completely anonymous. I appreciate anyone who finds the time to respond. It's made me think about the finer details and talking about it, albeit online, has actually made me feel somewhat more at ease about the whole thing, but I've sill got a long way to go.
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Oh my, you are in an emotional pickle and I feel for you so much. Please know however that I never intended to insinuate that you would go out of your way to listen to your daughter but my point was that once "implanted" the "auralism" thing generally remains with you. This from my own experience as an "avid listener" in my teens, but having no children of my own I do not have the potential for the same complications. You say that you are only having sex with him out of pressure, not because you want to, so I assume there is no initiation or particular joy in it on your part. That is very sad. Here is a man you are supposed to be in love with and to share those intimate moments tenderly with. Has he not clued in to your frame of mind here? - unless of course you are a very good actor or he knows and just isn't too concerned with your feelings (is he a me first type?). The one time outdoor sex thing early in your relationship is also telling as that shows how different you are. He wanted you to do something he wanted to do (his thing) but you only went along with it because you wanted to please him but became petrified of it and got no excitement out of whatsoever. When you say "since we were" does that really mean you were actually caught in the act? If so, that would be a emotional kick in the pants for you of H bomb proportions. Me and my significant other have never done anything sexually together or coerced any "off the wall" stuff that would freak out the other - it's just not fair and as difficult as it may seem you need to have a serious clearing of the air with your husband, either head to head (if you think he will listen and understand) or through a counsellor. Otherwise you will just keep going along with the status quo, getting more unhappy, resentful and angry and with, as you say, him having all the fun. In any relationship your major concerns have to be his major concerns too. It's bad for you and bad for your marriage and kids if this is left unresolved for much longer.
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Can I just say I've been a voyeur for as long as I've known the meaning of the word and I firmly believe that seed got planted with hearing my parents as a kid. I wouldn't say it's an obsession, but it's definitely addictive. Once you hear those sounds you want to listen in at any opportunity after that. Even when I'm watching porn, it's always the sounds of the woman's pleasure moaning that does it for me. My mother may have felt more comfortable having sex before I went to bed, but that didn't stop me listening in. I knew the signs, I knew the excuses and I just played along and feigned ignorance. I can also see now where she was coming from. Better for her to think that I'm downstairs suitably distracted watching TV or playing video games rather than just on the other side of the wall and wondering if I'm still awake or not. No doubt a few wines with dinner helped her to relax a little and loosen her inhibitions also. My mother was a very sexual woman and I believe that had a lot to do with her high stress job. As much a need as it were a want. Sex was her way of unwinding at the end of a long working week and she was willing to take risks rather than forego her stress relief. One point of interest is how my father seemed more uncomfortable about it in the end. As if my mother had gotten used to it or perhaps had gone into denial. Nevertheless, the routine continued and I learned my role of pretending to be completely oblivious when they went tippy tippy up the stairs of a nighttime. So as much as I'd love to say it's just a phase, I doubt it's something she's going to grow out of. I know I haven't.

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It's not that I don't want to, I do, but not when my eldest is awake, which is usually every night these days, therefore yes I feel pressured. He gets this he really does, and tries to go above and beyond to fulfil my 'needs' in the act, but being told to stop because I hear something or telling him 'I don't want that tonight' (because I don't want her to hear me climax), is what's beginning to cause the strain. He likes to make sure I'm satisfied and I'm not really letting him. I was beginning to sacrifice my climax with him, and sort myself out in the day when they were out.
Yes the public stuff happened when we were both young, possibly drunk and very daring. I was only 17, and it was usually early hours as we were walking back from a night out. He didn't know it freaked me out, and after we were caught I told him I never wanted to do it again and he respected that (in fact now you mention it, it's never really been brought up since either, probably why it didn't cross my mind sooner). We were caught in the bushes by a university patrol officer and told to move on, nothing too drastic. But enough for me to say I was done with it. I nearly died of embarrassment lol.
We had a long conversation last night, and we think I'm suffering from anxiety around the whole situation, and anxiety is curable, so I see the light lol. Plus with it being weekend too we stayed up extra late and both girls were asleep. It was the first time we'd had sex since my first comment and I must say I felt way more relaxed than I was last time. It did cross my mind that maybe we may wake her, but convinced myself we wouldn't and just went for it (quietly of course). I do think this is something I can overcome, I think I just need to give it time. I was ready for a miracle cure I suppose, and getting more and more frustrated with myself that I couldn't relax.
Thank you for listening to my rambles and giving me extra things to think about. I can see how being anonymous, and being able to completely open up really does help. No fear of being judged or anything.
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Yes I don't think I'd ever grow out of it either. My mum was a very sexual woman and would have sex numerous times throughout the day too (when she was home of course lol), and it didn't stop me listening in. Thinking about it I even think she might have knew I was listening too given she caught me outside her door a few times (her door was next to the bathroom so she'd catch me "just going for a wee" lol). I think my eldest would find it difficult to listen in to me during the day without her having to explain to her little 7 year old shadow what she was doing though lol. Still not sure if I'd be comfortable enough to try it just yet mind.
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I can only remember two nights where I think they may have heard me. I too would sneak upstairs and stand outside their bedroom door and the floorboards in that house weren't exactly the quietest. Both nights started out the same, with my mother going upstairs to have a shower after dinner and my father presenting me with the excuse before going up to join her, leaving me to watch TV by myself in the living room. I would wait until I heard the bedroom door close then quietly make my way over to the bottom of the stairs, listening intently. After a few minutes the bed would start squeaking and I'd sneak upstairs to the bedroom door. The first night I heard them stop and my mother said "Don't stop, baby please, I'm gonna cum" and the second night I heard them stop and my mother said "Oh God, not tonight, just ignore it". So I think in time my mother learned to put it out of her mind, but my father was obviously still conscious of potentially having an audience.
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So it’s possible it’s just something I will just get used to? I can live with that I guess. I suppose it’s just changing my mind set. It’s almost felt like I’m putting on a show which is probably why it’s weirded me out so much, but talking it out with you guys...or ladies has helped so much! Just out of curiosity....you’re both guys aren’t you? lol
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I am a guy, yes. And I wouldn't go so far as to say my mother was completely neutral about it, I just think in time she learned to put it out of her mind. Also, sneaking in a nookie before I went to bed would have at least given her plausible deniability, in the sense that she could tell herself I'm suitably distracted downstairs watching TV instead of on the other side of the wall, wondering if I were asleep or not. On another note, I were recently housesitting for friends and noticed that the parents bedroom is at the complete opposite end of the house to the kids rooms. No prizes for guessing what that's all about, hehe ;)
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Yeah that’s what I meant, not so much getting used to the idea, but being able to put it out of her mind. Not quite sure I’d have the plausible deniability, unless we leave it so late I can convince myself she’s definitely asleep....only time will tell I suppose
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You may have signed off already and moved on, but I will make final comments anyway. Hope you read this. I was first to comment on your post and I am so glad that things are not as dark as I might have interpreted from your postings. And, you are having the conversations with Mr. and working this out. I purposefully stayed anonymous however now I feel comfortable revealing that I am M and a bit older than you considering your children's age. Originally from your country (based on your spelling and colloquialisms), I emigrated elsewhere a while ago. Ships in the night as they say, now moving on. I'm glad this forum served a useful purpose if only briefly.
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It was you that made things clear enough in my mind to be able to have the conversation with my husband last night. You made the fog clear as you made me question everything, just what I needed I think. I still believe I have a long way to go, but things do appear brighter. And I believe that’s down to you, the original responder. I thank you dearly. I am going to make every effort to try and relax a little more tonight, as the moment takes us, and go from there. I know it won’t be plain sailing, but it’s a start.
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Thanks for those kind words. If you feel like updating, please do so but I also understand it if you don't want to. I'll check this forum again in about 6 months.
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Ha! I did my best to convince myself they were both asleep! Had the best time...but after had this overwhelming feeling she’d heard everything from outside my door! Ventured downstairs to find her at the fridge. Told me she went down for medicine because she had a cough, then corrected herself and said a sore throat, then said she was getting a drink too. What a set back! I feel so embarrassed! aaaagghhh I know for a fact she heard...and she knows I know! Where do I go from here !?!
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For some reason I decided to take a quick peek to see if you had replied to mine. Glad you did but it was not at all what I was expecting. So sorry for the setback. I'll put my thinking cap on and see what I can come up with as a suggestion. It's a tricky one so it may take a day or so to sort through but I promise I will do my best. On the bright side, at least you had "the best time" with Mr. beforehand which I assume has not been the case for a while. Boarding school an option (LOL)?
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