3 days of completing a subutex course ending at 0.4mg, i feel so bad.

Hi Graham: It is not the fact that you have ended it - because lets face facts 0.4mg compared to 16mg is like taking water isn't it? What IS happening is your addicted brain isn't very happy about your choice to kick it's butt!!!!!! And it will make your body ache, it will make you sick, it will make it as bad as it can HOPING and praying you will break and go back on it. I PROMISE you Graham this will end soon, keep thinking "I did it!!!! I survived another day! Tommorrow WILL be better than today!" This WILL help you no end! It has SO much to do with mind over matter. And I just wanted to personally say - even though I don't know you - how TOTALLY proud I am of you for kicking this out of your life and being successful at it! Because you have overcome one of the hardest challenges on this planet!!! And you have to really look in the mirror and smile and say "I DID IT!!!!" It is almost done, you just have to really flex your healthy brain to make it stronger than your addicted brain. Try and keep your brain busy, try doing things outside of your environment - walking, swimming, exercise etc. - this will increase your endorphines - which will really help your healthy brain. Eat as healthy as you can, so you feel better in yourself. And just know that this "hell" is about to end!!! Take your life back Graham!! And do not let your addicted brain triumph!!! Good Luck and Sobriety and CONGRATULATIONS for your Triumph!!!! You CAN and WILL do this!! :-D

Also, you can talk to me anytime, I've been through this, I know it all - unfortunately. And keep me posted how you are doing OK? Good luck hon!

Hello Mate,

I've just found this forum after spending all morning on thyweb, and your's is tyhe most encouaging and positive post i've found. I'm on my first day without anything. I've done an 8 week self medicating subutex detox, i was taking 0.4mg for the last 3 days. I thought i felt pretty rough, but after reading your post, i think a LOT of it is in my head. I have got twichy legs and just feel a bit run down, is it gonna get worse though and for how long. I have Diazipam and Zopliclone and will it help if i take large enough doses of these?? I have an amazing partner whos is helping mr through this, but would love to keep in touch with you if you not too busy.

Take care

Just For Today

Marcus

Hi Marcus: Don't medicate with the other pills OK? Your brain can go from one to the other! So try to not rely on anything else! You're almost there honey! .4 is nothing if you think about it OK? And the best way of doing this is to take the pills you have a cut them into little pieces! So if you have 10 cut them in half and you will have 20!!! Then put them in a smaller container, and just take half of your dose! I know this sounds insane BUT it works!!!! Your addicted brain has NO idea you are pulling this off on it!!! This is what worked for me, and when my doctor 1st told me I was like "????!!!!!!! %-) o.O " But it worked and when I was down to my last 1/2 a pill it was an easy step past that. Do you know where that last pill is? It is in the bottom of my purse - it is my Talisman, My Truth, My Past, and My accomplishment! I will NEVER touch it, even though I HAVE thought about it a several low points in my life! But I haven't! So you can too! I was on 300 Percocet a month and about 100 Oxycodone, plus MANY others! The shaking and twitching is from the withdrawls! A GREAT natural drug for this is Calcium and Magnesium also Melatonin! This REALLY helps! Eat healthy, drink water and keep active, if you keep your brain pumping with endorphines, this will take over your addicted part! If you have any other questions just ask away, and congratulations on getting back your life! Good health to you!

Hi Bambi,

I've only just found your reply to my message, so please don't think i was being ignorant or not appreciate your reply. I honestly didn't feel too bad all day Sunday, i knew a lot of it was in my head and mith my partners help the day wasn't too bad. I knocked myself at night with half bottle of wine and some Zopiclone. When i woke up Monday morning, i felt so ill Bambi. The thing is, i'm just not mentally or emotionally strong enough to get through those 3-4 days of feeel sh*t before i can start taking my Naltraxone. I have had no thoughts ou scoring or using, but called my doctor up 10am on Monday morning and told him i was really struggling, and i asked him if i could go on a maintainance dose for a month or so till i get myself sorted. I have a lot going on in my life at the moment including starting a really good new job on Monday. I'm only on 0.4mg in morning and 0.2 at night and i have also stopped taking my Diazipam and Zopiclone. I am dissapointed in myself, but know in my head and heart that now is not the right time for me to complete my detox. I'd rather be on this tiny maintainance dose than going back to old habits of scoring and using. Thank you so much for your reply.
Hope to hear from you again soon.

Marcus X

Hi Marcus! NEVER feel bad for trying to get your life back honey!! You are TRYING! So whatever it takes, you do it! If you need to be on an intermitent program then DO IT!!!! But I want to reiterate about cutting your pills in half! It TRULY TRULY works! I know it doesn't sound sane, but it TOTALLY does the trick! And you use the correct term - "Tiny maintainance" if you make it "LOOK" like more and take tinier amounts, I tell you, it wont be very long at all before you turn your life around and kick this c**p out of your system! Don't EVER feel dissapointed or down on yourself - as at least you are doing something about it! AND you also recognize that there was and is a problem in the first place - that is the BIGGEST step forward! There's a LOT of us on here hon! so just ask away OK?

Hey friend,

I am doing the same as you, we can do this.

I am currently posting a video on You Tube about buprenorphine, I will be posting the link for anyone to watch it sometime tomorrow.

Stay strong!

Hi Johnathan! Thankyou for this, I will take a look at it! I have a theory for regarding ALL of us "addicts" on here! My theory is this! We are all having such a hard time with this for several reasons, BUT I think one of the biggest is because we don't "appear to be drug addicts" And no one knows our dirty little secret from the outside anyway!

I am a middleaged mother of 2 teenage boys, married for over 20 years! To look at me you would think I'm just a housewife that bakes cookies - and eats them ;-) XD - and that I might even drive a school bus on the side - for some pocket money!!! When I would think about a "drug addict" they would have no teeth, greasy hair, smell, urine stained jeans, smoking but ends from the drains on city streets!!!! THEN WHAM I am standing with these "drug addicts" at my city's downtown methadone clinic! Drinking my Tang and Meth dose, and staring at my Polyroid Picture - for identification - on the wall! Next to the guy with no teeth, the women with greasy hair, the business man in a suit!!! The secretary in a dress and high heels! Etc. etc. etc.!!! That is when I had the epiphony that I WAS and AM the face of a drug addict!!! And that was one of those "I get it moments!" I was feeling worse about being an addict - BECAUSE I wasn't supposed to be, by community and media standards!!!!! Can any of you relate to my theory?

i can totally relate to you i'm on 4mg subutex a day i hate myself. i haven't taken anything else in 6 years.i find it so hard to look in the mirror at myself.i get so depressed. i just wish i could kick these tablets but my mood drops so bad. i just want to die.i don't look like the drug addict the person above was on about ether but i too am the face of a drug addict...sick..anyway going to try and drop buy 0.4mg.started on methadone 50mg.then slowly dropped to 30mg.then went on 16mg of subs all the way to 4mg.just find it hard to kick these two little tablets a day..anyway i hope you get off the tablets all the best ramjam

Hi Bambi27 i was hoping you could give me some advice. I have a friend who is on a methadone script. He is in prison at the moment on a reduction programme now on 15mil. They have mentioned subutex to him. Would it not be better to just stop the methadone and go through the withdrawals or do you advise to use the subutex. I really would like to help him but have no experience of this drug. Sally