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Hey everyone,
I've been an opiate addict for many years.  Three years ago, I FINALLY got sober and stayed that way until last summer. Without the hows and whys of what happened, I relapsed once again. It all started like every other time: a lortab or two at night to make facebook more interesting, to in 3 weeks, snorting 100+ mgs of snorting oxys and taking a handfull of clonidine.  By the end of last summer I was desperate once again, and looked for an EASIER WAY OUT.  I had heard about the Suboxone treatment, and a nice brand new shiny "Treatment Program" had just opened in my town. "APPLEGATE RECOVERY" as they call themselves is just a suboxone/subutex mill, but at the time it seemed an answer to what I wanted: something quick, especially without the horror again of the detox of opiates.  Hindsight being what it is, I am sorry I went down the road.  Yet, it did help me initially, allowing me to quickly jump back into the mainstream of life, getting employed with a good company that paid well, moving to exotic places, and I went to meetings.  So, it all sounds rosy except I now want off this treatment, and I feel this is going to be a real beast.  I was on suboxone 8mg tablet and had successfully for awhile got my use down to 1/4 of the tablet.  It now had been fluctuated to 1/2 or so a day.  Today, after a long discussion I had with the doc, for the first time I am now taking Subutex.  I know the difference between the two, so no need for a lesson on what their differences are is needed.  What I am looking for is this.  Have you been addicted to Suboxone/Subutex AND are now free from it.  How did you do this?  Tell me how you tapered down.  How long did it take you to taper down in a realistic fashion?  I have to get off this sh*t, and I need some help doing so.  I am so angry with myself for being so stupid to be duped into this, but like I said, at the time when my thinking was really bad, I wanted the way that I thought would be very easy.  Please help if you can, even if you are still taking it like I am, what are you doing to get off? 

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Hey man - I am in a very similar situation - much like yours so I won't bore you with the details - how are things coming?
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i started on 14mg of subutex and within 6 months i reduced down to 0.4mg as i got told it would be easier to detox the lower dose ur on. dont come down of them to quick though as u could relapes. so it was time for me to detoxs i was scared but ready for it,im now 8 days into my recovery, well the first 4 days was was really uncomfortable, sleepless nights and back pains but luckily i was not vomiting at all. 5- 6 day started to get better i was eating better and sleeping better 7-8 day is much better, i feel more comfortable sleepin better not really that achy anymore just left with a few lil symptons like a runny nose so i think now each day is just going to get beter for me now, :) just stay strong and keep busy as much as u can, if i can do it im sure you can do it, good luck to everyone who is detoxing
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Hi, I am curious, did you get off this drug? How did you do it? I have been pleading with my husband to get off of this c**p. He says he "needs" it. I am not too familiar with the drugs use, purpose or effects. It was my understanding it was a "temporary fix" and he would be on it for a maximum of 3 months. It is now going on 3 years, maybe longer. He already did the transition from the one to the other like you described.
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You have to go at least 12 hrs but they suggest 24 hrs with nothing, then you can be clean in 31 days. You

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