"People like you all make it difficult for people like me, who are actually in chronic pain on a daily basis. It is because of abusers, the drug companies keep having to reformulate. Get help people!! And by the way, HEROIN is NOT Oxycodone or percocet!!!" Oxycodone and the like might as well be because long-term use (whether needed or not) will have the same repercussions as using heroine. Btw: Your reply was just flat-out mean. 'MOST' people whom are on these pills started off taking them because their doctor (you know? The almighty people around us in which whom the world trusts will do "right" by their patient's health) prescribed it to them for one reason or another. After someone is prescribed these medications (whether it's Percocet, Oxy's, Vicodin, Roxy's, etc.), something called "TOLLERANCE" begins to settle into their body. One pill ( taken every six hours as directed), slowly turns into two pills every six hours--wash, rinse, repeat until the user is downing ten, twenty, thirty a day in order to just "sustain" feeling normal. They're no longer getting high off the pills. They no longer get that warm, fuzzy feeling. They are able to drive as though they weren't on a lick of anything. The pills no longer take away the pain in which they were first subscribed them for whatever reason their doctor felt they needed them to begin with. I'm a wife (of 27 years) to a kickas* husband and a mother to five beautiful children. In the summer of 2008, I was in a near-death car accident. I currently have two metal rods implanted in both legs where my shins used to be. My left knee was shattered to pieces. My list of both mental and physical scars goes on forever. Before my accident, I wasn't a stranger to pills. I was diagnosed with cervical cancer at the age of 33 and had to undergo a hysterectomy. No fun, but it was needed. As directed, I took a one month supply of consisting of 90-10 mg Percocet's. Three a day for thirty days. Once the script was up, I didn't look back, never once trying to score additional Perc's. That said: after my car accident, it was a whole different story. The pain is forever with me, every muscle, nerve-ending, and strand of hair on my body in a constant state of horrific pain. My trusted doctor started me out on morphine, and Percocet's as a means for any kind of quick breakthrough pain. They were needed, as the morphine barely touched the surface of the pain I was and continue to be in. Before I could realize what was happening, bam! I was physically addicted to these "little devil's", my need for these "legalized forms of heroine" an absolute nightmare. When I awake in the morning, just to feel "normal" (no high whatsoever included in this scenario), I have to down anywhere from five to seven Perc's. So, whoever you are, tossing around statements such as "It's people like you who (should be "whom", btw) make it difficult for people like me who are actually in chronic pain on a daily basis, blah, blah, blah" should check yourself AND this thread again. Most of what I personally read here was either currently addicted users or former users giving "fair-warning" to the original poster. No one grows up praying they become an addict by the age of twenty. No one hopes to the good Lord above to give them a horrid addiction such as the one in which comes along with (sometimes) having to use these pills for legitimate pain. Another thing I'd keep in mind before you start tossing stones at any addict (whether one here on this board, or the millions out there whom are not participating in this conversation) is our BEUATIFUL government's role in this epic mess. Politicians and "Big Pharma" are longtime pals, their friendship going back many, many years. HUGE amounts of these politician's campaigns are funded by these drug makers, their hands joined in unbreakable unity when it comes to the laws surrounding how and what scripts are written to (overall) unsuspecting patients. Sure. Should people be wise when it comes to their health? Absolutely. No matter how society perceives our doctor's, no. They are not god's, their education spanning a tad-bit more than your average "Joe." With that: yes. We (the people in which are at risk for not only addiction to these evil--but sometimes necessary--pills, but potentially harmful short and long-term side effects) should do our homework on what we're putting into our body's. I've stated my peace here, and pray to God that every addict out there (both clean, in recovery, along with those whom are continuing to struggle with this manufactured disease) holds it together, gets the help they so desperately need to get off this cr*p. Myself included--a loving wife and mother whom of which had no idea that the day some id**t decided that running a red light was a great idea. God speed to all...
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I just read what you wrote here. Yes everything you said is true i am currently in that position its a b***h i hate it and who it has made me become i will now do a search on suboxone thanks for your advice and outlook itvwas helpful
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I don't care if you are a heroin addict or are taking two hundred 30mg oxycodones, you only need 4-5 days, 7 at the most to get off of the opiate addiction and then stop taking the Suboxone, for it has done it's job and stopping taking it would be wise so you don't get addicted to the Naloxone part of the Suboxone. I speak from experience with me taking 200 (30mg) oxycodone's for a better part of 7 years and was able to get clean with Suboxone over the course of 5 days. They are widely prescribed in way to much of quantities, for doctors should not allow a patient to take more that 5 at a time or five days worth. Like, at the 8mg strength, prescribing 3-4 pills for someone who has been taking opiates for years, 4 tablets at 8mg strength is more than enough, may even be too much because one 8mg tablet could be broken into quarters, taking 1/4 twice a day; this one pill would last 2 days, thus really only need three 8mg pills at the most. But doctors will prescribe 30 in order to get you hooked and then you are stuck taking them forever and if ad when you do try to get off them, you'll fight like hell due to the intense withdrawals. However there is another Rx called Subutex that facilitates helping with withdrawals and can be used in conjunction with opiate pain meds. Subutex is the miracle pill, not Suboxone, because it's not addictive nor does it have the withdrawal side effects that the Suboxone has. The reason why is Suboxone has the buprenorphine and naloxone. It's the naloxone that gets people hooked and with major withdrawals if you take it more than 5-6 days in a row. The Subutex however just contains the Buprenorphine, an opiate agonist) which will take away the opiate withdrawals from any pain med or even heroin since that ingredient works as a opiate agonists,buprenorphine contains chemicals that link with opioid receptors in the brain to reduce pain and produce feelings of well-being. Before it was approved for opioid addiction treatment, buprenorphine was prescribed for many years as a pain reliever. When it’s taken in the prescribed doses, buprenorphine replicates the actions of opioid drugs — only to a much lower degree.But unlike Suboxone, Subutex can be taken with Oxycodone or any other opiate pain medicine. Typically it is prescribed "for pain" but is used to substitute taking an opiate pain reliever or in conjunction. I've used it for years. On days I'm just lying around and I don't NEED to take one of my oxy's or I wanna go thru the entire day without my Oxy's but know I will go into heavy withdrawals, I can take one Subutex for the entire day and have absoluetly no withdrawals. If I take Subutex for 3 days, I can be clean off of any physical withdrawls from my Oxy's and have went as long as 2 weeks without taking anything, but am able to go back to taking opiate pain pills when I need them and quit for extended periods and not have any negative withdrawals, but I cannot do that at all with Suboxone.
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