What most here are describing sounds like either Parosmia or Phantosmia. Parosmia is the distortion of a smell that is present, where a rose may smell like garbage. Phantosmia is the hallucination of a smell, or detecting a smell that others can't--it is often the same smell and sometimes described as chemical, smokey, rotten meat, etc.
The problem can occur after an upper respiratory infection like a cold/flu, dental infection, head trauma, sinus problems or it can be idiopathic and have no identifiable origin. The process of smell happens when an odorant molecule travels to the top of our nose and binds with an olfactory receptor. Electrical info then lands on the olfactory bulb and is sent along the olfactory nerve to parts of the brain for identification. If the receptors are damaged or if there is an interruption anywhere in the process, it can affect our ability to recognize a smell.
Both conditions can be treated but they are not well known in the med community. There is a group on Yahoo that is dedicated to this topic. They have an active membership and are both helpful and nice. the link is . I got Phantosmia early in 2006 and I'm about a year with no phantom smells. My phantom smell was a smokey sewer smell and I'm glad to be rid of it. Hope this helps.
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Dave
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The problem can occur after an upper respiratory infection like a cold/flu, dental infection, head trauma, sinus problems or it can be idiopathic and have no identifiable origin. The process of smell happens when an odorant molecule travels to the top of our nose and binds with an olfactory receptor. Electrical info then lands on the olfactory bulb and is sent along the olfactory nerve to parts of the brain for identification. If the receptors are damaged or if there is an interruption anywhere in the process, it can affect our ability to recognize a smell.
Both conditions can be treated but they are not well known in the med community. There is a group on Yahoo that is dedicated to this topic. They have an active membership and are both helpful and nice. the link is . I got Phantosmia early in 2006 and I'm about a year with no phantom smells. My phantom smell was a smokey sewer smell and I'm glad to be rid of it. Hope this helps.
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Dave
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Very interesting. I had the "bad meat" smell for 2 years, along with various 'phantom' odors. Was ready to do a suggested sinus surgery after a CT scan. Then, someone suggested that it might be a bad tooth nerve that was perforating my sinus cavity. So, a dentist appointment, referal to have a root canal - during the procedure, aha, same odor. After the procedure and a couple weeks to clear up the condition, no more odor :-) And to think that I was going to have sinus sugery - but, those doctors really do mean well.
So, go to a dentist and check it out - who knows.
So, go to a dentist and check it out - who knows.
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A question to all of you folks please that suffer from this mysterious "Ammonia Syndrome" (I am also!)
Did you have any dentist works on the molars of your upper jaw ?
My hypothesis is that dental material has entered sinus and is provoking a persistant infection that is wildly addressed by the body's immune system
Thanks for advising
Sinuspeace
Did you have any dentist works on the molars of your upper jaw ?
My hypothesis is that dental material has entered sinus and is provoking a persistant infection that is wildly addressed by the body's immune system
Thanks for advising
Sinuspeace
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Hi,
Interesting hypothesis, but how do you think can dental material enter in sinus? Usually you spit out everything.
Interesting hypothesis, but how do you think can dental material enter in sinus? Usually you spit out everything.
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Well, the dental effraction process occurs because the dentist drills way too deep in your jaw, and perforates the sinus. Then, he usually fills this hole with a special "cement" and pushes on this cement very hard to compress it. Of course, what does happen instead of compression, is that cement is mechanically pushed inside the maxillary sinus.
Many of those cement contains zinc oxide, which is a great promoter of Aspergillus growth - a very common fungus pathogen
I am just trying to find the common points between us all - there is a pattern for sure, and it is a pity that this issue i sjust out of reach for the current medical science.
I have the great feeling that there is definitely a dental-sinus-fungus connexion in that predicament.
Check out my Youtube video to see how I cured myself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAD_qA-rQNY
Sinuspeace
Many of those cement contains zinc oxide, which is a great promoter of Aspergillus growth - a very common fungus pathogen
I am just trying to find the common points between us all - there is a pattern for sure, and it is a pity that this issue i sjust out of reach for the current medical science.
I have the great feeling that there is definitely a dental-sinus-fungus connexion in that predicament.
Check out my Youtube video to see how I cured myself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAD_qA-rQNY
Sinuspeace
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I did it on my own indeed :-) I simply had arrived at the conclusion that medical science could do nothing for me, doctors and ENT mindlessly applies the same dogma. Look at all the examples in that forum.
I had been suffering from Chronic sinusitis, having purulent green discharges, and this ammonia smell for several months and I was freaked out by the surgery that the doctors proposed me. (I saw some Caldwell Luc operations on Youtube, and it was a real slaughterhouse)
I decided to take the matter in my own hands, as the antibiotic/steroid treatment only compounded things (which led me to the fungus "suspect" in my investigations)
What's a simple syringe shot in comparison? The first tries were slightly painful, but not more painful than a session at the dentist's.
It is impossible to clean the sinus from the outside. Just picture a closed glass bottle with only a tiny opening on the top. You will never be able to clean it, if it is dirty. You have to clean it from the inside. Fungus, bacteria or any stagnating mucus will be wiped out, exiting through the natural ostia, without injuring any other tissue !
Just for the sake of curiosity - Did you have any dental works on your upper jaw before the ammonia smell ?
I had been suffering from Chronic sinusitis, having purulent green discharges, and this ammonia smell for several months and I was freaked out by the surgery that the doctors proposed me. (I saw some Caldwell Luc operations on Youtube, and it was a real slaughterhouse)
I decided to take the matter in my own hands, as the antibiotic/steroid treatment only compounded things (which led me to the fungus "suspect" in my investigations)
What's a simple syringe shot in comparison? The first tries were slightly painful, but not more painful than a session at the dentist's.
It is impossible to clean the sinus from the outside. Just picture a closed glass bottle with only a tiny opening on the top. You will never be able to clean it, if it is dirty. You have to clean it from the inside. Fungus, bacteria or any stagnating mucus will be wiped out, exiting through the natural ostia, without injuring any other tissue !
Just for the sake of curiosity - Did you have any dental works on your upper jaw before the ammonia smell ?
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I have had these symptoms of intermittent bad smell in right nostril when inbreathing hard. Almost certain it is due to a dead upper molar which has now been removed, smell came on quite bad half an hour after removal and still comes on after exertion of any kind. Hopefully it will go with time.
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I, too, have smelt an unusual odor for almost 3 months now. In a post from 2006, someone described the odor as 'Hot Wheat'. I described it to my doctor as 'Roasted Grain'. It is not unpleasant, but it will not go away. The doctor found a Staph infection in my nose, and I'm on antibiotics for that, but the 'smell' is still there. From what I've been reading here, it seems that nobody has got a clear answer from their doctors. Does anyone know what this is? My fear is that it's neurological, but really don't want to do the MRI or CT thing. Any thoughts??
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I just read a couple of recent posts, and no, I have not had any dental work done recently. I've been in for routine cleaning and checkups, and my teeth are fine. I've had many root canals, crowns, fillings, etc, over the years, but nothing within the last 4 years.
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Hi,
Apparently recent research has indicated that fungal infections within the sinusus is one of the leading causes of a bad smell coming from the nose. This does seem strange at first yet it is quite logical if you think about it: fungal infections thrive in warm wet conditions (ie nasal cavities) and can be contracted easily in our day-to-day activities (and are of course contagious). This could also explain the way the smell comes periodically - whenever the sinus is opened up due to movement (yelling, tilting the head etc) the smell is released by that sinus. The main difference with an infection in your sinus (compared with an external fungal infection like athletes foot) is that you cannot treat it with a topical cream (like you would with external infections) this means that the infection will continue perpetually because because your nasal cavities provide the ideal conditions for a fungus to thrive (ie warm and wet conditions)
The solution: simply to take broad spectrum fungicidal tablets, this will treat the problem from the inside out.
I am not sure that this is the answer to all your problems but it is definitely worth a try, if it a fungal infection then there surely there is no reason why it should not be cured? a major problem is that a larg portion of this medical research is fairly recent and many doctors (such as the ENT I go to) have not heard of these developments. What is important to me is that two friends currently studying medicine have heard of this research, and of course we know that the information available to students at university is likely to be the most recent and up to date (because the majority of new research originates from universities!)
Please correct me on the above if I have made any mistakes.
Apparently recent research has indicated that fungal infections within the sinusus is one of the leading causes of a bad smell coming from the nose. This does seem strange at first yet it is quite logical if you think about it: fungal infections thrive in warm wet conditions (ie nasal cavities) and can be contracted easily in our day-to-day activities (and are of course contagious). This could also explain the way the smell comes periodically - whenever the sinus is opened up due to movement (yelling, tilting the head etc) the smell is released by that sinus. The main difference with an infection in your sinus (compared with an external fungal infection like athletes foot) is that you cannot treat it with a topical cream (like you would with external infections) this means that the infection will continue perpetually because because your nasal cavities provide the ideal conditions for a fungus to thrive (ie warm and wet conditions)
The solution: simply to take broad spectrum fungicidal tablets, this will treat the problem from the inside out.
I am not sure that this is the answer to all your problems but it is definitely worth a try, if it a fungal infection then there surely there is no reason why it should not be cured? a major problem is that a larg portion of this medical research is fairly recent and many doctors (such as the ENT I go to) have not heard of these developments. What is important to me is that two friends currently studying medicine have heard of this research, and of course we know that the information available to students at university is likely to be the most recent and up to date (because the majority of new research originates from universities!)
Please correct me on the above if I have made any mistakes.
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Thanks for the POST. I saw my doctor yesterday, and he has put me on the Anti-Fungal oral medication, FLUCONAZOLE. One dose per week for 4 weeks. According to my doctor, it is pretty powerful stuff. Took the first dose last night, and no side-effects as of yet, but, the 'smell' is still in my nose. Hopefully, within the next few days, I should start seeing ( or rather, not smelling) some results. I'll keep you posted.
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I have ammonia smell in my nose after really hard exercise and after a cold when it progresses into the sinuses. I am very careful it is not kidneys because I have had two kidney transplants. I hope it is a relief to you that some people get this smell after even moderate exercise and their bodies are completely healthy.
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I get various tastes and smells and I think they are coming from my eustachian tubes, my middle ears get blocked and make me a bit deaf.
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I get an occasional whiff of ammonia, usually when I take a deep breath in through my nose. I've suffered from migraines for over 10 years, and about 2 years ago I had a seizure. A guy that saw it happen said it was a grand mal I think, anyways I was convulsing and my eyes were rolled back. I remember smelling ammonia right before it happened. And lately I've been noticing that if I catch the smell of ammonia, that a very intense migraine is on it's way. I had an EEG and some blood tests done after I had the seizure, but I never got called back in for an MRI or an EKG. I can't find any info on these symptoms other than epilepsy and brain tumors. I don't think I have epilepsy since I've only had one seizure, but I'm not sure about a tumor since I haven't had an MRI. Any factual diagnosis is more than appreciated.
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