A placebo-controlled double-blind experiment found that vegetarians who took 5 grams of creatine per day for six weeks showed a significant improvement on two separate tests of fluid intelligence, Raven's Progressive Matrices, and the backward digit span test from the WAIS. The treatment group was able to repeat longer sequences of numbers from memory and had higher overall IQ scores than the control group. The researchers concluded that "supplementation with creatine significantly increased intelligence compared with placebo." A subsequent study found that creatine supplements improved cognitive ability in the elderly.
Creatine is only found in meat.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1691485/?tool=pmcentrez
Creatine is only found in meat.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1691485/?tool=pmcentrez
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good point i like the green x :D it doesnt realy matter and the only reason i searched it was because i have to write an arguement n whats better vegiie or non-veggie how boring!!!
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It's really hard to tell which diet is generally better, since it's a very individual matter and everybody should decide on his own what is best for him. It wouldn't be any good to force somebody who loves meat to turn vegetarian, since it will have a very bad influence on his health. And the same situation is with vegetarian, they shouldn't be forced to eating something which they don't want to eat.
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this was ages ago but, why would you want to be vegetarian? even if animals do get slaughtered if you wanted to help out these poor animals why
didn't you go to protests or something to stop slaughtering animals, why not do something instead of becoming vegetarian there are much easier
ways of help to animals the same amount of animals are still going to be killed even if you stop eating meat.
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The arguments for vegetarianism are:
1. It opposes animal cruelty
2. It's good for your health
3. It saves the earth
Vegetarianism is one of the easiest ways to accomplish those three things (be healthy, save the earth, help animals) because it does not support animal cruelty, meaning the meat industry, and it rids you of all the unhealthy fats and cholesterol you get from meat, and it helps save land, water, and stop pollution. making one hamburger means chopping down 55 square feet of rainforest. Americans eat 5 billion burgers a year. you do the math.
do some research, and you will also find that humans were made to be vegetarians! ***this post is edited by moderator *** ***
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so yeah, there are plenty of reasons to go vegetarian
and i think everyone should
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One thing is clear from this thread........vegans and vegetarians simply like to argue their case. Learn two things from this thread if nothing else, everyone has an opinion and is entitled to it. Secondly, everyone has a mouth and is entitled to put what the want in it. Not everyone needs a grand plan before eating a chicken wing or a carrot. Live life to it's fullest folks and quit bickering with one and other.....when you are on your death bed you will wish you had spent your bickering hours in a more loving fashion.
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Vegetarianism is a non-argument. Deep down most vegetarians know this but no one wants to admit to being wrong do they? I've met some vegetarians that are so militant as to appear completely brainwashed, usually these "types" are of the "eco" persuasion, don't live even remotely in the real world, go to festivals, spend a year backpacking around India, smoke pot & attend rhythm & juggling "workshops" Stereotypes are their for a reason folks.
I can only assume that most vegetarians were away the day we had to do those little drawings at school when we were 6 years old concerning the food chain. As someone else pointed out we are omnivores, this is how we HAVE evolved, like it or not, it would take a great many millenia to reverse this evolution with vegetarianism. The human race would not exist if it were not for the consumption of meat. In our prehistory hunter gatherer days without meat we would'nt have survived. It's literally the most natural thing in the world.
As a moral guideline on the matter I always took my cue from that fella Jesus, apparently he was quite happy to catch fish & eat meat (ok maybe not pork)
I once met a girl who was pretty hardline, I mentioned this too her & she actually started to slag him off, implying that she was somehow a better person because of it. Imagine, slagging off Jesus, I'm not particuarly religious, but still. Mind you this was also the girl who started a huge argument in a crowded restaurant with a poor man who was collecting for a cancer charity who's wife had died, because apparently they "test on animals"
We are meat eaters, we are plant eaters, deal with it, get real & grow up.
I can only assume that most vegetarians were away the day we had to do those little drawings at school when we were 6 years old concerning the food chain. As someone else pointed out we are omnivores, this is how we HAVE evolved, like it or not, it would take a great many millenia to reverse this evolution with vegetarianism. The human race would not exist if it were not for the consumption of meat. In our prehistory hunter gatherer days without meat we would'nt have survived. It's literally the most natural thing in the world.
As a moral guideline on the matter I always took my cue from that fella Jesus, apparently he was quite happy to catch fish & eat meat (ok maybe not pork)
I once met a girl who was pretty hardline, I mentioned this too her & she actually started to slag him off, implying that she was somehow a better person because of it. Imagine, slagging off Jesus, I'm not particuarly religious, but still. Mind you this was also the girl who started a huge argument in a crowded restaurant with a poor man who was collecting for a cancer charity who's wife had died, because apparently they "test on animals"
We are meat eaters, we are plant eaters, deal with it, get real & grow up.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but we are not meat eaters. For instance, meat eaters, such as wolves, DESIRE to kill and eat meat. When's the last time you looked at a cow and desired, with all your heart, to pounce on that animal and rip it's flesh open and eat it? Look at a wolves teeth. They're sharp and pointed. We have a couple pointed teeth. Look at a horses teeth. They do as well. They're for eating plants, such as apples. The rest of our teeth are flat, for chewing plant material. Also, if you were to examine the chemical components of our saliva, human beings contain Carbohydrate digesting enzymes. Carnivores contain no such enzymes, because they weren't meant to eat plants. We are. We have no sharp claws with which to kill our prey, as wolves do. So evolutionary wise, we can't have been meant to actually kill animals. There are tons of other biological differences, I know you can't post links but Google michael blue jay and look at his vegetarian site. Seriously. Get your facts straight.
Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Everyone has the right to eat what they want: EXCEPT when what they eat is harming others. People say it's their business. But it's not. When what people eat is affecting our environment, cutting down forests, wasting water, producing methane, robbing poor people of their food, and brutally slaughtering billions of animals, it's not just their business anymore. It's everyones.
If you could exist without harming others, why wouldn't you?
Sure, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Everyone has the right to eat what they want: EXCEPT when what they eat is harming others. People say it's their business. But it's not. When what people eat is affecting our environment, cutting down forests, wasting water, producing methane, robbing poor people of their food, and brutally slaughtering billions of animals, it's not just their business anymore. It's everyones.
If you could exist without harming others, why wouldn't you?
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Cellulose is in plants like grass and leaves, not in the vegetables we eat. That's why we eat them, and not grass.
Fat is how our body stores glucose, a type of sugar we take from all kinds of food, not just animal products.
Fat is how our body stores glucose, a type of sugar we take from all kinds of food, not just animal products.
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Dude, seriously!?
Is it okay to you doing sth just cause it's easier than others? Sometimes the shortcut does not exactly take you where you want to. There are other ways of getting the needed iron for the body. A combination of fruits and/or vegetables can also do that for you; say, for example: Broccoli with tomatoes.
The thing most of vegetarians and me myself don't like about it, is the animals being killed. I don't think the way one feeds them is the point. As I get, it's like keeping someone in jail, but in a very good condition and telling them one day that we've kept you nice and healthy here because we wanted to do some experiments on you all along, which leads to your death. It's true that you're going to die, but at least you had a lot of fun! (Cause we needed The test model had to be healthy for the purpose.)
Do you think the fox story makes sense? Can two totally different things be compared that way? Asking carnivores to act morally about their food...?
Is it okay to you doing sth just cause it's easier than others? Sometimes the shortcut does not exactly take you where you want to. There are other ways of getting the needed iron for the body. A combination of fruits and/or vegetables can also do that for you; say, for example: Broccoli with tomatoes.
The thing most of vegetarians and me myself don't like about it, is the animals being killed. I don't think the way one feeds them is the point. As I get, it's like keeping someone in jail, but in a very good condition and telling them one day that we've kept you nice and healthy here because we wanted to do some experiments on you all along, which leads to your death. It's true that you're going to die, but at least you had a lot of fun! (Cause we needed The test model had to be healthy for the purpose.)
Do you think the fox story makes sense? Can two totally different things be compared that way? Asking carnivores to act morally about their food...?
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If we were made to eat only plants, wouldn't we have multiple stomachs,
like cows? Our stomach's production of hydrochloric acid, something not
found in herbivores. HCL activates protein-splitting enzymes. Further,
the human pancreas manufactures a full range of digestive enzymes to
handle a wide variety of foods, both animal and vegetable.
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Actually recent studies have shown that vegans and vegetarians are 30% more likely to become anaemic and are more likely to break bones due to vitamin D and B12 deficiencies. I'd say that's a pretty bad health disadvantage.
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In fact those animals wolves etc. actually spend most of the time in the company of their prey leaving them alone. Their desire only occurs when it becomes desperate and they need to get a food source that will sustain them for the next few days, months and in the case of some snakes, a whole year. Their desire to kill would be no greater or less than a medieval human farmer.
Fact of the matter is though, those cotton clothes you wear? Do you know how much water had to be taken from the mouths of innocent young animals to grow that cotton. Millions one of the most water intensive crops out their. Also the land that most plant crops need to grow on to thrive used to have the greatest biodiveristy before they were cleared wiping out millions of plant and animal species. Cows, Sheep and many of the animals we eat on the other hand can easily survive on semi-arid pastoral land with less biodiveristy that requires little alteration.
Fact of the matter is though, those cotton clothes you wear? Do you know how much water had to be taken from the mouths of innocent young animals to grow that cotton. Millions one of the most water intensive crops out their. Also the land that most plant crops need to grow on to thrive used to have the greatest biodiveristy before they were cleared wiping out millions of plant and animal species. Cows, Sheep and many of the animals we eat on the other hand can easily survive on semi-arid pastoral land with less biodiveristy that requires little alteration.
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From a moral standpoint, vegetarianism simply does not work. Moral rules are supposed to be universal and thus would not require anyone to make absurdly large sacrifices to follow. A moral rule requiring vegetarianism would presuppose a generally wealthy society (like the USA) where a large variety and options of dietary choices exist. This means that a moral rule requiring vegetarianism would demand huge sacrifices from people in poorer countries (or even communities) with far less access to daily vegetables or vitamin supplements. Thus, a moral rule requiring a vegetarian diet could not possibly be universal.
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