Typically those who are at a point of suicide, are so hurt and alone. They don't have enough left in them to worry about the reprecuion left behind. Too often the one's left behind are often the one's that have put the suicidal where they are. MURDER, ha! They are not killing anyone but themselves. It is their business. Not the law, or governments. Smetimes the pains they are suffering through are too much.
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Attempted suicide is not actually illegal to start with
"WOULD think twice of their selfishness." - i dont advocate suicde ut just having to continue with your life because of others is not something anyone shouuld have to do.
They don't don't need you're empathy, people are here on earth due to luck, but if you believe that that have to live out the remainder of their days because of other people thats up to you. waking up everyday, having nothing to live for and hating yourself is not an existence.
cancer and physical diseases are objectve, alot of mental illnesses are subjectve, why do you have the right to say that people with cancer can kill themselves yet oters can't.
it's not selfish to want to kill yourself, having people constantly saying "you cant do t, its wron" isn't going to help
"WOULD think twice of their selfishness." - i dont advocate suicde ut just having to continue with your life because of others is not something anyone shouuld have to do.
They don't don't need you're empathy, people are here on earth due to luck, but if you believe that that have to live out the remainder of their days because of other people thats up to you. waking up everyday, having nothing to live for and hating yourself is not an existence.
cancer and physical diseases are objectve, alot of mental illnesses are subjectve, why do you have the right to say that people with cancer can kill themselves yet oters can't.
it's not selfish to want to kill yourself, having people constantly saying "you cant do t, its wron" isn't going to help
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Superb post. I have contemplated suicide on many occasions when I'm really low but what always stops me is the effect it would have on my riends and family. Suicide is the epitomy of selfishness, or a form of mental illness. Again, excellent post.
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Hi,
I feel you. I'm sorry the suicide didn't work, but here is a reason it didn't work. Your work here is not done yet. I have sever lung disease and a bad infection right now. I feel awful and and and thinking of going. My sister is visiting and would just find me peaceful in bed. She knows how hard I fight for life. But sometimes, I get tired of fighting for life. I always fight to keep singing and teaching and playing in church.
I'm learning to surrender to spirit. Bless you on your journey. What ever you do, the holiness in me blesses the holiness in you and you are holy.
I feel you. I'm sorry the suicide didn't work, but here is a reason it didn't work. Your work here is not done yet. I have sever lung disease and a bad infection right now. I feel awful and and and thinking of going. My sister is visiting and would just find me peaceful in bed. She knows how hard I fight for life. But sometimes, I get tired of fighting for life. I always fight to keep singing and teaching and playing in church.
I'm learning to surrender to spirit. Bless you on your journey. What ever you do, the holiness in me blesses the holiness in you and you are holy.
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I certainly understand it when you say that you're just so tired - I really understand this. Waking up every morning feeling like you just can't face another day - and they will all just stretch out the same way over and over is not a great way to start the day. Trying to reach out - my last attempt, I cut my wrists and the reaction I got from my mother was complaint that I had to borrow $20 from her due to medical costs - she never asked how I was feeling, why I did what I did, would I do it again - just a basic "how can I help?" It leaves you thinking these people will be happier when I get it right and are rid of me forever. Not the best way to think, I know - maybe some friends/family just don't know how to talk about these things with you or are afraid to, but they'd be amazed how much it would mean if someone just showed that they care. Yes, I found this site because I was wanting to know the best way to try and use valium to end it all - at the end of the day I agree that it is selfish to kill yourself in a way that is obviously going to cause harm to the poor person who is going to find you - and I've tried to think of ways that would be less upsetting for who may find me - although it will never be a "good" thing to find. It's just very sad coming to the realisation that of all the people you know, so few really care or even bother to listen to these "cries for help" To any and all in the same position, I wish you all the best and hope that you are all able to work through things to the best outcome possible.
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thanks for all the advice guys , i goggled this cus i want to die, and i have a whole pck of valum, but now i know it might not be enouth i will take my anti deperessants too, some of you have no idea what dispair is, im 30 and in my short life ive been beaten raped, mentaly abused, and now my bf of 3 years has dumped me , i cant take any more , i have bi polar and havnt left my room in 6 years and im done , cant take any more pain, my heart is breaking , so walk a mile in my shoes before u judge ,
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It pains me when people say that suicide is selfish, not only because those who say suicde is selfish cannot begin to understand the pain that the suicidal person is feeling, but also because they are neglecting to recognize that depression is a mental illness, and in some cases a fatal one. One would never blame a cancer patient as being selfish if they died because they obviously can't control their illness and death, however people with depression are constantly blamed for not being able to snap out of it which is horrible. This sort of attitude only isolates these people more and could potentially limit their vital support group. And it's not to say that all people with depression are suicidal, just like not all cancer patients are diagnosed terminally, however some depressed people are suicidal and it's not because they are selfish or because they chose to think that way, it is because they have a disease that messes with their biochemistry and makes them feel an unimaginable amount of emotional, and sometimes physical, pain. Their sound mind does not choose to end their life, it is their sick mind. And what's more, who's to say that its not selfish that you are expecting these people living day in and day out with severe, relentless pain, to live for you so that you do not have to deal with the grief that would pale in comparison to the excruciating dullness and numbness they felt each day.
I am a fourteen year old girl who suffers with depression. I seem relatively normal, as most of us do, however it angers me when people make uninformed judgments on people who can bear those judgments the least.
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I know what it would mean to my children,but I don't know how to go oon. this is not an easy dicision. My depression just hurts the ones I love and I con no longer hurt them.
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That is completely wrong of you to say those things, you have no sympathy for people who have committed suicide or attempted? People with those thoughts or have tried or succeeded you have no idea what they have been through or what they are trying cope with. It is utter disgrace for you to say something like that.
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you r ignorant to the disease that is depression.
if we were accepted as people who have poor quality of life then it would be wonderful. Instead it is seen as selfish. Well depression is painful. we may have a healthy body which a cancer victim doesnt BUT our minds are so tortured that it is almost terminal anyways. Do not pretend to know what you do NOTknow.
if we were accepted as people who have poor quality of life then it would be wonderful. Instead it is seen as selfish. Well depression is painful. we may have a healthy body which a cancer victim doesnt BUT our minds are so tortured that it is almost terminal anyways. Do not pretend to know what you do NOTknow.
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Dear no one , one thing I can tell you is no matter how deeply you love or how deeply you hurt, a breakup will hurt like hell and sometimes for a very long time. But then one day it won't. The aim is to make it to the day when it doesn't hurt anymore. Take it from me cuz I had a nervous breakdown following a bad breakup from a guy I loved with all my heart and then he left me. I never thought I would survive the pain of the breakup or the nervous breakdown but here I am 8 years later. One thing I have learnt over the years is men and women come and go and no matter how much you think you love them or won't meet someone else like them, you always recover. You just have to keep pushing for the day when it doesnt hurt so bad anymore and then when it doesn't hurt at all. You sound like a nice guy. Try to wait around till you find someone who loves you the way you deserve.
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it cant I once took 100 paracetamol 500mg and 300 d10's and 40 2mg activan and 120 xanex 1mg and still here
I know this is a health forum and not a religious one - however reading about people wanting to end it all makes me worried that they aren't prepared to face even worse things that whatever hell they are going through right now.
The reason that hell etc is in the bible is not because God hates people but becuase he cares enough to tell people how to avoid them. You know - telling your kid that there is a snake in his bed is actually loving, he might avoid it. God told us about hell because he love us. If someone is not prepared for eternal judgement then they should not be taking their life....... the second hell will be far worse than the first one (the one you're going through now)
Hell is for evil people - liars, thieves (people who steal), people who hate etc. The ten commandments is a good summary of how to see if you are evil or not. If you've kept the ten commandments perfectly you'll be fine. There are many religious people who are a turn-off for what they say - and so people don't even stop to think if there is any truth in what they are saying. You've got to look past any weirdos you know otherwise you'll never be in a place to be objective enough to make a proper decision.
I'm sorry if you don't like this post - I'd never read such sad stories before and wanted people to not take their lives and go somewhere worse.
it cant I once took 100 paracetamol 500mg and 300 d10's and 40 2mg activan and 120 xanex 1mg and still here
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Who are you to judge people who have no reason to live? And why anyone would want artificial happiness? Unless one walked in somebody else's shoes he or she can't possible know anything about lives of others. Serial killers mercifully allowed to die peacefully by injection. Others have to throw themselves under a train, jump off or use pills. Watch "The sea inside " movie
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