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Continued.... Some basics that were found to reduce the hyper-active nervous system, that someone may find helpful.... By experimenting, after doing research or bringing back things from the past, include: warm-to-hot sitz baths, preferably with epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to warm, sooth the chills, bring moist air to the lungs and somewhat mimic a toxin-removal bath, or natural mineral bath, was found to work wonders. This was used as much as every 4-to-6 hours, to allow the body to relax and the water heater to reheat a fresh tank of water. Eating a nutrient-rich diet of the most natural and organic (if possible) vegetables, fruits, berries, nuts, seeds, fish, chicken, pork, and beef for protein. Ideally, a person may consider less heavy meats in their diet, however, after eating beef, in lieu of lighter meats for a couple of months, may assist in maintaining a person's desired muscle mass or weight. After losing about 20-to-30 Lbs of lean muscle, the decision was made to bog down my digestive and nervous system with the heavier meats, until a later date. As was stated by many, staying busy is essential for the mind, as well as the body. The most that was feasible, relating to a person's condition, was the logic.. Anxiety and depression was something I was warned of. The bitter cold of Winter was not the the best choice to attempt this, personally. Chronic pain, as well as being diagnosed with central sleep apnea (CSA), a severe case of a rare condition, was the last straw. Especially, when opiate consumption is listed as one of the reasons that such a rare disorder could exist and could possibly be the direct, or at the very least, indirect cause of the current situation. And, the hypersensitivity brought on sever allergic symptoms. If losing weight is desired and a lack of appetite exists, a knowledge of nutrition and biology throws up a red flag and signifies that the body is in a stressful state. By using a blender and dumping in whole foods and protein powder, as well as taking some B-Vitamins, the muscle mass loss ceased. These are just some things that were added once thoughts became clearer. If there was someone with knowledge of how to address all the areas that the body and mind was to experience, it would have been, easily, worth paying a caretaker to come in to my home to assist with. Although the concept of taking nutrient or mineral supplementation is wonderful and was used in this case, it is not so easy for someone in such a condition to take in more pills or almost anything but lots of fresh, clean water, nutrient-rich foods in shakes, and eat for, at least, this person's needs to feel more normal, for a longer period of time, each day. So, after more than thirty years, and about one month staying on track, incremental progress was experienced with more optimism each day. For this person, having hope, faith, and trusting in a better life has revealed clearer thinking and small, but measurable rewards, in various forms. Good luck to those who have placed their trust in the medical system. And, good luck to those who found themselves addicted to a synthesized chemical. As mentioned in the original message, such addictions do not discriminate. If... when, the other side is reached, it is back to organic foods, regular exercise, clean air and water... the basics, as well as finding someone to share life with. Though these concentrated, powerful drugs are considered to be a "controlled" substance in societies, just imagine how many legal or illegal addicts are all around us.... Certainly, not all of us chose such a life. Some may have been lured into the regular use of such drugs, be they in prescription form or not. Many lessons have been learned from this long experience. Ciao My Good, Fellow Citizens and the best of luck to you....
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The best thing to use is Melatonin. It's cheap, and you can buy it at any supermarket
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I was on this board not too long ago, thinking I was going to be okay going back to the doc and getting my refill because I ran out early. I was on pain meds for two autoimmune disorders. One of them was of the thyroid. My metabolism was totally wack and I also have a serious spinal issue. I think pain medications are for those who truly need them for chronic pain and they work wonders when you need to function and cannot without them. I believe this is what happened to me.Recently, I got all of my labs back and everything in my bodily system is normal now, including my thyroid that leads the way for my entire metabolism. I began to notice that my body was hurting more on the medication, rather than hurting LESS. I believe this was my body telling me I didn't NEED the meds anymore. When I found out all was normal I began to plan for a detox from 7.5 percs 3x a day. This is my arsenal1. Clonidine, for anxiety and to keep blood pressure down and mine is high anyway2. Ativan-miracle. USe it to sleep at night ONLY but have been  using it, half a tab during the day for the anxiety. It's a MUST. it helps with muscle pain too. Helps you to relax3. Immodium. GOD SEND. Saved me from the runs and stomach cramps. I am hypersensitive to meds, so I didn't need much of this. It actually work better in clogging you up than an opiate so I take a light laxative with it.4. Zofran- another miracle drug for nausea. I have been able to eat and drink anything I want and keep it down. VERY IMPORTANT AND I BELIEVE IT HAS HELPED ME IMMENSELY SPEED THROUGH WITHDRAWALS MILDLY.5. Ibuprofen. I take 200 mgs. x4 three times a day. Has helped with leg pain.6. Hot showers, warm baths, hot tub, jacuzzi, USE IT LIBERALLY. While it is very temporary relief, it WILL help you to relax and calm down your muscles.7. I know it's damned hard, but get up and move!! If I don't get up and move, my leg and back pain gets WORSE. Stretching and walking have done wonders for me. Even if it's just for a few minutes. I am on day two of withdrawal. Yesterday was horrifying. This morning I woke up with NO PAIN AT ALL. I have been eating all that I can, have an appetite as I understand nutrition is absolutely essential in getting this c**p out of your system and keeping you healthy through withdrawal. It is A GOD SEND TO EAT. If you can get ANY anti nausea med, of any kind, this and the immodium will help you TREMENDOUSLY to push through withdrawal faster. This is the third time for me. Twice before I didn't make it because I was NOT physically healthy enough to endure the stress on my body. Get checked out by a doc first before you do withdrawal. Everything, blood, whatever. Lie and say you need a FULL physical (not kidding here) and make sure you are WELL ENOUGH to endure it. It makes a HUGE difference to know that your body is healthy and can endure. Again, EATING is huge. Anti nauseas work wonders. I truly believe that being healthy and checking that all out before I did this, as well as the anti nausea med, have helped tremendously. The Clonidine/benzo combo at night, does wonders for sleep and SLEEP is when the body heals. You MUST sleep. I don't know if my withdrawal is giong to get worse, but I'm over 48 hours into it and while I have mild pain and a little nausea, I feel fantastic. This is NOT what happened during my last two experiences.Hope this helps!

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I know this post was a long time ago and most don't come back, I'll assume you made it.

You were on quite the high dosage of oxy's. I've only been on 7.5 percs 3x a day. for a year and a half and am BREEZING through withdrawal, but that did NOT happen the first couple of times I tried because I was not physically healthy enough to handle it.

I have been taking zofran for nausea (MIRACLE) and I can eat to my hearts content. Benzo for anxiety, only half an ativan during the day and a whole one and one .1 mg. clonidine at night and I sleep like a baby. Immodium for sh**s,
ibuprofen for pain, Omeprazole for gut and acid reflux. hot showers, baths, getting off my ass has been HUGE helps.

I think eating a balanced diet, and being able to sleep, as well as being physically healthy is what will have you SWING through withdrawal. Maybe not if on higher doses over long periods of time, but from everything I've been reading here, I THANK GOD IN HEAVEN my dose was not higher and that a year and a half of my life was all that was taken, UGH! I'm so sorry for those of you who have experienced longer. Don't beat yourselves up. Mine is a dependence issue (physical), not addiction, but it so could have gone that way had I not noticed that the med was RUINING MY LIFE and was toxic to me. Once i had labs in the all clear for my health and I mean TONS of labs, there was no way I could have done this.
Day 2 and I feel fantastic. Yesterday SUCKED. But I swear being able to get nutrition in and drinking a ton of water has helped me tremendously and I changed my diet to a healthy one long before percs.

IT really does make a difference.
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what you should you do? I don't think it's rocket science about what you need to do here but starting out by talking to your physician/doctor would be wise. I wouldn't take anybody's advice here and risk your child. You can tell your doctor about your addiction to opiates and he should be able to safely help you come off the withdrawals.

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What is the name of it?
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f**k METHADONE!!!! DONT DO IT! i just got off of 8yrs of opiate dependency. 3yrs of anything from smack to tramadol. then 5yrs of done. Im 31 days off today! whoop whoop! 1st off it aint gonna happen til your ready. You have to stop trying get high succesfully! I couldn't do it. smack and needles are way bigger than me. I had to stop bangin my head against that wall man! 2nd. im a 34yr old women, who usually pussied out every other time i tried to w.d. by myself. i had to let go of whatever i was gettin high over. ( i got high on feelings, thoughts, good times, bad times, kids, bf's, jobs, houses....ect) LET IT GO!  you have to share your pain. i craved attention, your "brain" needs it. i went to group, whether it was aa or mental health groups. wd causes some "Heady" sh*t. that you just cant keep to yourself. the physical part was the f*****g worst! I lost over 80 lbs 10000xs worse to get off of than smack!! i prayed to something, at the time it was God. (have'n issues) to get me through each second sometimes. and finally i think the most valuable piece...acquire you bout 2 zips of grown folks nugs, b/c at the very least it wil make you eat and calm the tummy. i think it was my gorilla glue for my manic mind! let your self go through it. it's ok. we always strive to be comfortable. What's wrong with a little disruption? I take it over cold and numb any day now. It was right up there with childbirth for me. I had to go thru it, no avoiding it. it was excruciating, no doubt, but it was one of the most BEAUTIFUL things i have ever gone thru. ill never take it back. I think to continue with not putting a needle in my arm, i have to remain powerless over it everyday. i can NEVER do another opiate or really, for me, i cant do anything but smoke weed. it is was it is....-Blue    ps..lots of f*****g and masturbation too! it so helps "Touch Me Im Sick" Mudhoney...HOLLA!

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I think you have problems other than dope.
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Where can you go to do this?
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I would like to say good luck to u all.I to have a bad dependency on opiates in fact i am coming down off of morfien right now and have taken more than 30 hydros in the last day or so.Soboxine is a wonder drug ive been on it forthe last 16 months and didnt touch another drug the the whole time,but just as i stoped taking it i sliped right back into old habbits.I am mentaly prepering my self for the end of my hydros i know what im in store for when their gone.I do have plenty of trammidol that really does help take the edge off withdral.That and enrgy drinks hot baths and forced excersize.I am soo tired of liveing with this dependency that i am just going to have toget my mind set on fighting back to some degree of normalcy people do it all the time.ive done it three different times already ,so i know i can do it.I wish the best to you all....

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Try Clonidine! It works, it's only a blood pressure med but it stops the sweats and chills in their tracks
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Methadone is one of the worst things to kick. It really depends how long you've bin taking it and what your dose level is. Once it gets into your bones which happens with prolonged usage, it makes it that much harder to get off it.
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i had the same problem i thought by taking tramadol would help the withdrawel symptoms this is the same thing that happened to me my legs felt so wierd i felt major tightness i didnt know what to do literally was in hell..

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Look, I feel your pain... I am sure I don't have to say this, but I will. This sh*t is for the birds. Really. Look I battled this thing forever. I mean forever. I loved my opiates with my coffee in the morning. Nothing like it. But I will say this. After 9 years of constant abuse from pills to heroin and back again. I learned the most serious lesson of all. When you do loose it all and are at that bottom that each and every opiate user WILL find. Thats when you learn to suffer the short term to feel alive again. That is a lie from the pit of hell. It steals your feelings, emotions, and love. You will loose all you love and if not. It WILL take YEARS to earn back the love and respect lost due to that garbage. I have a disdain that so resonates in my heart for the wasted years, Jobs I quit that men my age whom worked a life time couldn't gain. Wife, Children, Prison, and so on and so on. The worst collateral effect I will say is my wie now secretly is on them. Doctor called to verify my refill fro 240 10s and I had to laugh..... I was so taken back. But I knew deep down. I knew based on her attitude and the rest of the signs. Heres my advice. Go slow. Taper down and DO NOT TAKE SUBOXEN AND OR METHADONE. It worst then the opiates. Taper down to the point it hurts and your hot and anxiety is all about. Then do that again. Then cut that down. Walk walk walk and walk some more... Its so hard to do but do it anyway. Go to the GNC store and get Ammino Acids. Ammino 9000 I used. Heals your chemistry fast. It gets better. It really does. I am after 8 years of everyday use. I am now three months clean and have never felt so good in my life. Memory, Feelings, body and all.... Lord what was I thinking. I hear that spirit again and listen to it. I pray. I pray everyday as I did when detoxing. I am so grateful for having that ability. Tell your self this. 8 hrs.... Ok, I did that... .Lets do 8 more. Forget about sleeping. Or try. It matters not. Everyone is different. Dont listen to people like me telling you to try a.b.c.d....... Use what you hear as a basis only. Not the rule. I did the amminos and that worked for me. Here the deal. After 8 years of HEAVY HEAVY USE. I was kicked and feeling much better after 2 weeks. after the first week really hard stuff gone but the cloud was there. Keep your head up and know there are so MANY of us out there for support. GOD BLESS> I am rooting for you. I really am.

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Hi, I just read your post, my son is getting ready to start withdrawing from opiates and Xanax he has been using for many years and has tried several times to detox only to give in to temptation. I am going to try to help him this time by being with him constantly during the 1st week. Any suggestions on how to help him thru this 1st week and then once he has detoxed how to stay clean? I am really scared for him and I am hoping this time he can be successful.

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