ive been on oxy 30 and morph 100mg for over 5 years its beat me up pretty bad and ruined my outlook on life.all dr perscribed i want out,i was in an accident that busted 5 of my disks and injured my hip..but i cant do these pills anymore any advise would be appriciated thanks
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have you tried soboxone?? I was strung out for 10 years on same thing, then methadone for another 6 years....soboxone was the only way out for me. Check it out- Unfortunatly I was stpid and got off soboxone after 6 years clean and happy...I got strung out on heroin and now am on day 2 kicking again...thank God I have soboxone to help! Lets kick together!! ***this post is edited by moderator *** ***
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I know exactly where you are coming from. I am recovering (3 years now) from a horrible opiate addiction. It started the same as yours- I was in an accident (a passenger in a car which was rear ended at a red light) and as I did not have health insurance, my lawyer sent me to a TERRIBLE pain management clinic. I did not know at the time, but all they did was prescribe pain medicine, and never fixed the problem. WHen telling the doctor that I did not like how I felt physically or mentally, he just upped my script. Apparently, this doctor was in the habit of getting patients hooked, and would come into the office once a week to just fill prescriptions. It was horrible... This went on for over a year, with no help from him or anyone else to stop. I had never done drugs before, and had no idea about what withdrawal was like. Then, the lawsuit ended, and so did the prescriptions. Cold turkey. I thought I would just stop, no big deal. WRONG.... I had never felt so terrible in my life. I felt my skin was falling off, my bones were breaking, the most terrible thing you could ever imagine. Because I was recently divorced and supporting myself, (and the lawsuit barely covered the medical bills... nice, right? Shitty doctor and lawyer.)I could not afford to miss work at either of my 2 jobs. So, I started buying pills from friends, then friends of friends, then pretty much anywhere I could find. I did not want to get high, I just didn't want to feel sick. It ended up consuming my life. All I could think about was where I would find more, or get the money... I ended up selling jewelry, electronics... Then I started missing work because I was either sick, or waiting to get my pills. Then, one day, while I was on my 3rd day without anything and in agony, a "friend" (not really a friend, I know that now...) convinced me to try heroin. He told me it was exactly like the pills, soooo much cheaper, and lasted longer. Not to mention it was a lot easier to find. So, just thinking about any way to no feel like I was dying, I tried it, "just once, until I can get more pills." Well, that just introduced me to a life and people that I care not to think about. True, it was easier to get, and cheaper, but it also destroyed me mentally. Like I said, I had never done drugs before, and was not looking to get high. The buzz was nice, but all I really cared about was not being sick. Then one day, I could not get either heroin or pills, my dealer gave me this big orange pill. He told me to dissolve it under my tongue, and it will hold me over until he can get more. So, not caring anymore, I did what he said, and discovered the amazing SUBOXONE. It COMPLETELY took away any and all withdrawal feelings, as well as any cravings. After refusing to buy pills or heroin again, I began my search for Suboxone. I had been addicted to opiates for a few years now, and was DONE>>> I wanted my life back!!!
So, with help of my state insurance, I found a clinic. it is NOTHING like methadone. You fill your prescription in the pharmacy, dissolve 2 pills (now they are strips, like breath strips, and dissolve almost instantly) and I am completely and totally drug free. Unlike methadone, Suboxone is not an opiate, it is an opiate blocker. It fills the opiate receptors in the brain, which completely alleviate any withdrawal symptoms and cravings. The best part is, it prevents your body from absorbing any opiates. So, even if you take a pill or do heroin, it does absolutely nothing. You do not get high, and you don't want to.
Suboxone has been used since the early 70's, and has no long term adverse effects on the body. For the first time in a long time I have my life back. The Suboxone has a long half life, meaning it stays in your system. You dissolve your dose under your tongue in the morning, and you are feeling good and fine until your next dose the next day. You do not wake up feeling sick, because the last dose is still in your system when you take the next. It sounds too good to be true, but it is not. I have been completely clean and sober for 3 years now, and love it. I have also tapered down my Suboxone myself, taking only about 1/2 of my original dose. They start you at once a week, and after a few weeks of negative drug tests, they slowly increase your prescription. Because my state insurance only allows 30 day supplies of any medication, I go once a month. It is not a physical exam or anything, you go in and talk to one of the counselors, talk about any concerns you have, and they call in your refill.
Before starting it, they explain how it works on the brain, and how opiates work. It is completely different than methadone, which is basically just substituting one opiate for another, under a controlled setting, and you usually have to go in once or twice a day. It is not convenient, and also embarrassing. Now, I just go to the pharmacy, and live my normal life. I am back in school, High Honors, Dean's List, National Honors Society, the works.
Opiates change the way your brain works, and Suboxone pretty much fixes it to the way it should be. There are really no interactions with it, but be careful with alcohol. The suboxone makes it effect you much more. I used to like to drink, now one or two beers have me buzzing!! Honestly, learn anything you can about it, and find a Dr. or clinic near you. If you do not have insurance, most have programs which make it either very inexpensive, or in most cases completely free.
Do not listen to ignorant idiots saying that you can OD on it, and it causes bad withdrawals, both are completely false. The doses of Suboxone are between 8mg and 32mg. If you take any more than 32mg, your body does not absorb it. Like I said, it fills up the opiate receptors in the brain, and once they are full, the medication has nowhere to go but out. You can keep taking it until the cows come home, but it will have no effect on you. (It might make you a bit nauseous though! lol) It does have withdrawal symptoms, but NOTHING like opiates. I have been on it for 3 years, and there have been times where I could not get to the pharmacy in time or stayed with family and forgot to bring it. All you feel is extreme fatigue, and a general lack of motivation and slight malaise. It is definitely tolerable, and does not even come close to an opiate withdrawal. Think about it. Even Sudafed, if taken for too long, can give you a slight withdrawal.
If you want your life back, look into it. It has saved many, many lives, including mine. Before this, I saw myself nowhere, I saw myself dying. I was sick, underweight, depressed, hollow... dead inside. Suboxone gave me my life back, and I have never felt better. I have been to the dark side and returned stronger. If you have any questions at all, or would like to talk more about your situation or mine, or Suboxone, let me know.
I feel for you, and speaking from experience, it can and does get better. I think back now at what I went through and it doesn't seem real, it's like a movie that I never want to see again. And like you, because of an accident, I have chronic pain. But another plus for suboxone is it is also used as a pain medication, so you will be killing two birds with one stone!!! Usually, they will also offer counseling and treatment, if necessary, along with the Suboxone. Talking to them at the clinic, they also prescribed me Wellbutrin for depression, and Ambien for sleep. The can prescribe busparone for anxiety, but not benzos like xanax or adavan, as it is dangerous with the suboxone (but not as dangerous as with opiates!!)
Good luck, and again, please contact me if you have any questions at all, or just want to chat with someone who has REALLY been there.
**As a side note, the doctor who originally caused my problems has since had his license taken away and is serving time in federal prison, following an investigation after 3 patients overdosed and died in one month. Not only was he proved to be purposely addicting patients to ensure his business keep making money, it was found that he was also trading prescriptions for sexual favors to local addicts and prostitutes. It makes me feel a little better, that he got what he deserved for ruining so many lives. I am well, physically and emotionally, while he is sitting in prison. He destroyed a portion of my life but is paying with his.**
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Hey micky,
The only way you can quit is if you are absollutely ready. I was on Subs for a year and half. It was AWESOME. I felt great and had no cravings. Life was good. But...... Always a but I learned the hard wat that subs are for short term tapering down. I relapsed. I suggest that short term subs. cold turkey sucks. I am almost 3 days clean and for some reason and I dont really have WDs I dont have xanax though.alot. It helps.
Good Luck Micky!
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WouldYouKindly<3 wrote:
In my three years of being on Suboxone, I have never met a doctor who recommends or even prescribes Su ozone for short term use. It is effective because of the long term effect on your brain, repairing the damage done by opiates. The only people I know who use Suboxone short term are those who dont care about getting clean, they just want a prescription to sell. No doctor who really knows anything about Suboxone would be that stupid. It is not effective short term. And the only people who do not like sunk one are people who are still trying to get high, as Suboxone blocks the receptors in your brain preventing you from getting high. In that case, you have no business wasting anyone's time even trying.
mickytwiggs wrote:
ive been on oxy 30 and morph 100mg for over 5 years its beat me up pretty bad and ruined my outlook on life.all dr perscribed i want out,i was in an accident that busted 5 of my disks and injured my hip..but i cant do these pills anymore any advise would be appriciated thanks
Hey micky,The only way you can quit is if you are absollutely ready. I was on Subs for a year and half. It was AWESOME. I felt great and had no cravings. Life was good. But...... Always a but I learned the hard wat that subs are for short term tapering down. I relapsed. I suggest that short term subs. cold turkey sucks. I am almost 3 days clean and for some reason and I dont really have WDs I dont have xanax though.alot. It helps.
Good Luck Micky!
In my three years of being on Suboxone, I have never met a doctor who recommends or even prescribes Su ozone for short term use. It is effective because of the long term effect on your brain, repairing the damage done by opiates. The only people I know who use Suboxone short term are those who dont care about getting clean, they just want a prescription to sell. No doctor who really knows anything about Suboxone would be that stupid. It is not effective short term. And the only people who do not like sunk one are people who are still trying to get high, as Suboxone blocks the receptors in your brain preventing you from getting high. In that case, you have no business wasting anyone's time even trying.
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thank you for taking the time to reply to my post.im still on the oxy and morph but i have been looking more into the sub and i plan to ask my doctor about it at my next appt.. again thank you for your considerate reply this has been the hardest thing i have been through and lookin for the door to get out
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