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At a designated time give me your fax number and I will be happy to fax you part of the 24 page booklet. Most of it is in Chinese.The booklet is on quality paper indicative of a fortune 500 Company. Full Color. But some of the pictures are in English. Many show Dr. Chen with photos oif Chinese dignitaries. For example: One caption reads: " In February, 2000, President Chen Guoyi, who returned to China after offering guiding work in units like the Medical College of Hong Kong Chinese University, Korea Zhengwen Chinese Medical Hospital, etc, was warmly received and highly praised by the Minister of the State Public Hygiene Ministry and Hu Ximing, director of the Chinese Meedicine Administration (first on left) with inscription made by the latter for his development of the specific feature of Chinese medicine and adding a brilliant page of the cause of Chinese medicine of the motherland. There are many photos of Dr. Chen with important medical authorities: For example: "First on the left: Li Tiantai, Director of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Chinese Medicine Administration. Second on the left: Zhang Xuewen, former President of Shaanxi Chinese Medicine Institute. First on the Left: Li Yueqing, President of Oriental Hospital of Beijine Chinese Medicine University. Third on the left: Long Zhiizian form Pres of the Beijing Chinese Medicine Univ. Fourth on the left: Chen Yuelai, physician from Malaysia. Fifth on the Let: He Xing dong, Head of Education Dept of the State Chinese Medicine Administration. Sixth on the left: Professor Chen Zhuoming, Chariman of the State Rheumatism Assoc. Seventh on the left: Li Tiantai, Director of Hong Kong, Macao and Taiwan Affairs, Office of the State Chinese Administration
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Sent you a pm Martin. Thanks.
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This is to confirm that 5 pages of the 24 page NATCM brochure was faxed to your attention. If you did not receive, please advise. Hopefully this will help clear up any questions on the credibility of the center.
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There is NO clinic in America, the only clinic the Chen family have outside of China are in Toronto and Vancouver, all the others they said that they are the Chen family ARE FAKE!
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Hello Martin, I was in the Vancouver clinic from February 28 till March 13, I had 5 mixed hemmies, 3 outside and 2 inside, they started my treatment on a thursday and the next wednesday they were all gone. There is a lot of mixed feelings here and I wasn't planning to write here anymore but it is so strange that so mnay things are told by people who never even were in he clinic, one person got a surgery (if that happen) to let cut of her hemmies, that person told here, about the fish tank in the corner etc. also that the Chen clinic care more for money than for the patient. I wrote here before as Dinie, but registered and couldn't use that name anymore.
the first week, I had to go every day to the clinic, than there was some construction and Doctor Chen came EVERY day to my hotel to treat me, even on Sunday, she explained everything she did, gave me advice about food and drinks, what was the best for me and I felt a very loving person that DID care for her patients.
That same person who was in worse pain as before the treatment told here that they had a Chinese family doctor who couldn't find the Chen's in China, when I asked the name of that doctor, I get as answer, I will not give the name, that is strange, want to know everything about the Chen family but refuse to give the name from the doctor who do the surgery.
Anyway all this guessing and gossiping and all the stories about the Chen family is so interesting, the people who are healed are happy, I am one of them, have to go back next month for a check up but I feel so good and my hemmies ARE gone.
I went there because of your story, I dealed with hte hemmies for many many years and couldn't do it anymore, cost for me? 3.800 I had to fly from Arizona to Vancouver but it was worth it.
They are busy to try to open a clinic in the USA but for now, NO clinic in the USA, when people claim that they are a clinic from the Chen's, LIES! they have only in Toronto and in Vancouver a clinic, in Toronto is Doctor Chen and in Vancouver is his sister Doctor Alison Chen, she and I became friends and are still in contact, this people are very loving and caring, that is all I have to say. Everybody have to decide what they are doing, do you want a surgery, GO for it, it is a free decission but please, don't talk about this family if you don't know about them, go to them and talk in person with them.
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Hey Guest X,

I just wanted to send you a PM with a quick question but can't locate any of your posts where you were officially logged in (which is the only way it will allow the option to "send message"). If you get a chance could you just send me a PM (even empty) so I can reply with my ques? Thanks!
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Has anyone found any information on the San Fransisco treatment center?  I cant seem to find anything... please help, I have been suffering from this since I was 9 years old and am now 32...

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They only have a location in Vancouver (which is closed for renovations till May) and in Toronto. No SF clinic.

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Hi,

MY name is kashif. i have internal hemorrhoids for sometime. now a days i dont bleed until i have very large stool because of constipation. and usually i take care two three days, i get alright, but i have noticed now while have bowl movements i have a stretched like prolapsed hemorrhoids it does not give me any pain but i think in future if can be problem if had more pressure of that. please, advice me what i should do, i read one article on internet which speaks very highly about NATCM clinic in toronto. I live in Melbourne, Australia. but after reading post by guest i am confused should i go to canada all the way for treatment it will cost me alot, air plane ticket, then staying there? also do i have to go for check ups again?

i email my report to natcm clicnic, they replied with the report they think my treatment last for two week, but they will first examine me then can tell exactly? what you guys suggest on this forum
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Does anyone know when the Vancouver clinic will reopen, and their address?

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A PLEA TO SITE ADMISTRATOR/MODERATOR. There are a lot of us suffering from this condition and desperately searching for a cure. That is how I got here. Since you have the information about participants ID and locations I beg you to give us a hint if this is genuine or a scam by few participants to drum up businesse out of desperate souls. My gut tells me it is a scam being orchestrated by a few using different names, but my desperation is pushing me to believe it.
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I wonder if this could be true.
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How do you go the last page on this forum
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hi i would like more information on how to get rid of hemorrhoids without surgery. thanks i am inn pain i have had internal external hemorrhoids and anal fissures for 15 years.
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Dear Jorro: If you had cancer, you might call Sloan Kettering in New York for information on treatment. Likewise, if you had other significant medical problems, you might call M.D. Anderson Health Clinic in Texas for information on heart, diabetes or other chronic and acute conditions. So given the wonderful information on this website on hemorrhoids, do your own research. NATCM clinic in Vancouver or Markham, Canada may provide you information on rectal conditions that can improve your lifestyle. I can assure you this is no scam. Unfortunately, there are so many misleading comments and ads on so many health websites, that I can understand your confusion. This along with the fact that medical professionals do not understand alternative therapies nor are they open to new modalities. The choice is yours! Good luck to you.
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