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Thx a lot for the loperamid (Imodium) nfo... I've seen something about that on some other sites, but not so complex like in your post... I have a Tianeptine's w/d but even that fact I'm still using it... Cause it's the only legal AD drug out there (its opiate-like effects started to be common in the mid of the 2014, but I've started to use Coaxil (one of the brand name for the Tianeptine-like andidepressive drug) it a months before that info was available. At that time It was too late... I discovered that when I'm taking it (approx. 50-70mg/day) I can really live my life... It was a miracle, 'cause any other f*cking AD drugs from my psychos didnt work (I have used a lot of differents SSRI's, SNRI's... older and newer but absolutely NOTHING from them except the bad-ass side effects). After a years of searching I've discovered Tianeptine, my doctor prescribed me it but only the higher doses worked. And it's like that till today. For now... I don't wanna to stop taking Tianeptine, 'cause my chronic depression, social phobia, agoraphobia and some other sh*t is too bad and the Tianeptine compound is still helping me a lot.
BUT... that w/d stuff is really, really bad. When it came to me for the first time (that was the first time when I started to think it has to be some opioid-like agonist... that withdrawals were just like that!!!) with that damned w/d feelings. I was shocked, trust me... The "funny" (I mean it really ironic) thing is that even the fact I have w/d, after that I need redosing with max. 5 tablets (12.5mgx5)... And all those w/d are away for about 5-10 minutes. All of this is a big shame and pity... I'm using a Tianeptine Sodium but I was reading that now they are starting to do some research on the Tianeptine Sulfate... The main difference between those two compounds is their half-time. With th T. Sodium you have to redose a few times a day... Because its half-time is approx 2.5 hours. But if there will be the modern-like molecule of a Tianeptine in a form of Sulfate... Well, that's another story, 'cause its half-time is somewhere around the 6-8 hours!!! Wow and that's it!!! Especially for persons like me which are taking it for its therapeutical effects and not because of a serious abuse and some sort of an "high-state of mind".
Well, the main thing is that when I'm completely outta the Tianeptine (I don't buy it on the net, I'm still trying to live with the packages from my doc, even the fact I have some other one doc, which can write me a recipe when it's really, really bad...), those w/d symptoms are just like those writed in the firts post here :( It's really, really bad and just think... Ppl are taking this like an tri-cyclic antidepressive like me (and I know there are ppl which are taking Tianeptine primary for fun, for relax, well, you know that)... But that needs of higher doeses (Tianeptine was never working for me at those small, but safe dosages... like taking it only 3 times a day with one 12.5 mg tablet... It's a nonsense) are making it a really addictive. Slowly, but anyway, for sure... It's a fact.
Well, It was some time ago... when I've read about some "supplement" compound which is able to help with those f*cking bad w/d stages. Yup, Loperamide (Imodium) was a nice try for me to stop most of the w/d symptoms... I completely understand WHY IS IT SO... Loperamide is a weak opioid, too... But its molecule is attempting only at the opiate receptors in our stomach AND (thx for that) in the many parts of the body. That's why it has those fine effects with helping to stop the most of the w/d sh*t. In my case, after using approx 4-5 tablets I can feel that maybe some 70-80% of the most painful things are gone... So this is very similar to that what the author of this post was written in his first post!!! Yup, it doesnt help me with the really bad psychic things (like depression and so on)... But those bad w/d physic effects of the absence of the Tianeptine in the body and brain are really almost completely away. Well, why isn't Loperamide helping with the psychic side of the whole thing? Another simple thing. They made the loperamide molecule in the way it's not able to cross that damned so called Blood Brain Barrier (BBB). I've read there are some ppl with the really thin BBB... and in those cases some higher doeses of loperamide it's possible that a few molecules crosses that barrier and voila... then they affect the CNS and the opioid receptors in the brain.
But hey! I can give a s*it about that... I'm not a regular opioids/opiates addict which is seeking all those painkillers (i.e. Oxy, Vic, Tramadol and so on...). In fact, the absolutely best herbal medicine for my depression is the cannabis, but that's the another story and even the fact I was helping with the pot for about 7 years... I did't have any in the last 3 months... Maybe some sort of a detox, too, I don't know.
But... I don't know how long I will be able live with the Tianeptine... I can say that I'm afraid one day I will have to quit with it and I really don't know what my totally f*cked up psychic will "say" to that :( I was completely without any kind of life before the Tianeptine (Coaxil)... And because any kind of other damned AD drugs are helping me I have changed several psychiatrists and all of them were totally f*cked up when they discovered that really all those well-known antipressives aren't working on me!!!. One more time: only the Tianeptine's molecule is working. But I feel it like a big pity, that it works but the costs in the form of the w/d are really unfair :(.
Ok, let's stop this... I really don't know how it will be with the Tianeptine in the future... what I will to do or not... but in the meaning of the Loperamid (Imodium)... for that helping with the w/d stuff... Yup, that works and it's great, 'cause in the most cases that's my only chance how to "survive" the ends of the months (that are the times when the packages with my Tianeptine are in the most cases completely away)........ and with the help of a Loperamid I'm able to wait till my next doc's visit and the prescribtion of another boxes of Coaxil (Tianeptine). So, from some time I have the Imodium prepared for the bad times...
Well, stay safe mates... and don't ruin your lifes with some kinds of drugs... especially that opiate-likes... It's not worth it, for sure :(.
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Keep an eye out for those miraculous "moments of clarity" which signify you are pulling through your addictions and having success! You can do it!!!
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I am having WONderful results with Tianeptine at this time but I know, the state I live in being 1 of 3 that has banned Kratom, will probably end up banning the ONLY thing that has EVER even reMOTEly touched my depression.
This article has calmed me down a LOT.
I've been having high anxiety for the last few weeks just THINKing that the comfortable "contentment" I have FINally found in taking Tianeptine will be putting me through Hell shortly when my state will inevitably ban it.
Not that I have ANY clue what I'll turn to THEN but at least I know I will LIVE through the W/D's.
Thanks SO much for this article!!
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Hello everyone, I am. A heavy opiate user for ten years and am going on 24 hours with nothing except the loprimide. It work!s! Normally I would be going through the storm of withdrawal but after taking 60 mg of Lope being washed down with tonic water and grapefruit juice I am 100% normal. I'm watching tv, eating, resting on couch. Instead of getting a prescription filled next week, now I can taper down the Lope and quit the pills for good. Thank you to all the posters on this site.
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