Getting ready to come off Subutex Therapy.Have some ?'s

I have been on subutex for 13 months. I looked and tried to find successful ways (or if even possible) to get off this. I was on heroin for 6 yrs. I defintly feel that i have substituted one drug for another. Im not stealing, running, lying, etc... for this drug but my addiction has not changed. I still feel like im very dependent on this medicine. I have tried to get off of it a month ago. When i was down to my last pill i freaked. The worst thing about this all is that I feel comfortable taking this everday(3*8mg). I feel im not hurting anyone so what does it matter. Well the longer im on it I realize that Im so sick of being dependent on somthing just so i can get out of bed in the morning. It has saved my life. It is honestly a miracle drug. I would recommend it to anyone. I have not relapsed, and been clean the whole 13 months I have been on it. I dont want the heroin anymore I dont crave that, but I do want those pills. It has just replaced that addiction. I just moved from one to the other. Anyone who wants to get off of this. You need to realize, as well as myself, YOU DIDNT GET ADDICTED IN ONE DAY. You need to take it slow. My worst thing is when I want something to happen I want it now. Im not sure if thats from addiction? I get angry, frustrated, and want to give up when I dont get things my way. I have went to treatment (outpatient) while on the pills. I feel that you have to be 100% ready to give this up. Like how you did when you started. Dont set yourself up for relapse when you have the rest of your life to work on this. I know that I will struggle with this for a life time. Its not an easy road. Everyone is different in there recovery, I know what mine is all about. I really hope that I can help atleast one person from this. And help them know that its ok to take your time. Its not going to happen over night. Take it slow. Recovery is a life time struggle. 1 is to many and A thousand is never enough. Cherish everyday that you wake up clean and sober. I wish you all luck

Hi Troopers!

Just reading the post and thought I will write here my progress. I have been reading around for info about getting off subutex as i needed to prepare. Seems like it really is different for everyone. Ive been on and off heroin for the most part of the last 14-15 yrs. Been on subutex before but didnt get off it. This time round I have been on subutex for the last 2 yrs now without using. I have been back on suboxone and subutec for longer but I dont count that as I relapsed.

I have in the pass tried cold turkey with no luck. Did rapid detox which was HELL!! flushing out your system with naltrexone! do NOT recommend it. When i was on subutex the first time I would get back on it and be using so i would be spititng it out when walkin gout the chem. In this period i end up flying interstate to get a naltrexone impant. This is where a tube of naltrexone gets inserted below your naval right or left side above hips. Felt cold for a good month but gave me my life back for 2 yrs then got back on hard.lon gstory short i ended up on suboxone off and on few times now subutex.

My situation is that I have got down to .2mg on subutex. I switched from suboxone after i hit the 2mg mark. Started on 8mg this most recent time as the other times i was on 16/ 12mg but didnt think i needed that much so thats why this most recent time i demanded to be started on 8mg max and put up with any minor discomfort. i dropped by 2mg every few months but it was when i hit 4mg i stated feeling the drops. then from 2mg i reallly felt the drop and started dropping by .4mg which I took some sleepers during each drop for about 2-4days. I avoided taking these pills as it doesnt feel to good next day.

I have decided to kick it for good this week. My chem will not break the .2mg in half as its too hard so i got my weekly 4 takeaways and have broke them up myself.

I took .1mg yesterday and was feeling cold and this annoying feeling. took the sleepers and it help sleep but woke up 2 hrs later feeling turned on as F*#@ (sorry but i have to speak the truth) then back to sleep. Today just had a constant cold feeling and real annoying but still bearable. I stretched it out long as i can and took like .05mg as it was only a few specs. It really helped im feeling good enough to type this but Im not happy with myself because I could of kept going.

Tomorrow im planning to not take ANY specs at all and see how i feel. I really need to do this now as I have a trip soon and like the post above about the thailand trip i do think it gives u the incentive to just DO IT. My concern is that after i cant go on atleast 3 days that I wont be good enough by the trip. I want to be good enough to have fun with friends and drink etc. I have about a week and a half.

I wasnt happy to find out the longer you stay on subutex then the harder it will be to get off. The only good thing i see with long term is you can ween off slower and gives time to resolve issues and get your life back on track which is important. I have friends who have got on it more recent and been on and off. They even got off the subs really fast which i was soo appy for them and surprised but then got dissapointed that they got back on. I was wishing i could get off it that easy but then again he wasnt on the subs for long.

I will update my progress in a few days and how i feel.

Hi been on heroin/ meth and a huge crack addiction for about ten years, then went on subutex, we were told it was really easy to come of, I got it down to 0.02 per day, then did a turkey with the help of my doctor, after two months of major twitching not eating, didnt want to leave the house, I wouldnt sleep, so I relapsed and started using smack, after a month I went back on subutex, If you want me to be truefull I have come to terms that I will always be on this stupid horrid little tablet, but if it keeps me normal then so be it, I made my bed all them years ago and so I will lie in it for the rest of my life, I am hoping that with medical science then one day they will be able to give me some thing else that will enable me to be clean,he lottery then I would ask to be put in a medicaly induced coma and pumped full of naltrexone for three months, that way you no that when you wake up you would be ok. I think subutex is really for short term like two month, my doc shouldnt have kept it going for ten years, its not his fault its all my doing, ***this post is edited by moderator *** *** private e-mails not allowed*** Please read our Terms of Use

Hi was on methadone 2 years subutex 1 year started wit high doses my daily habit of crack n heroin lead to me spending £600 + everyday I stopped got on a program . Stabalised myself , swapped meth for subs reduced and reduced until now am only taking 0.1 or less I was a sick child but where the is a will there is a way. I'm now not taking anything if you really want to stop you can

I think you're doing pretty good. The taper chart I am using is 2mg every 6 days of Suboxone. Then 1mg for 6 days then 1/2 mg for 6 days. Then 1/4 mg every 6 days.

You will be fine the perocot will be out if your system and because you only used Subutex to taper short term this will make it heaps easier!! The only time it is hard is when you use sub for along time!!! Good luck and trust me you will barely feel the wds

Cheers my friend answered ALL the questions that have been nawing away at me , im on reduction heading for zero, am now 1.2 i handed it over to be mystery dosed 7 days ago and yep so far so good, thank you for taking the time to share your reality, from one man to another you are a real man, i too will pop back on very soon to have a look , im Darryl from the Gold Coast area of Australia.......

FIRST OF ALL i feel like subtext is a life sentence , I have been on it 7 yrs, I have tried to get off of it, immposible,,And valum Dizaepam are not muscle relaxants,,they are beenzo's, you will need somthing like Soma or one of the others out there, The only Benzo that might help with the leg twitches is colonapin , But I tried all of those, I begged my doctor to help me get off, no luck, I went though 3 major surgeries with not so much as a pain shot, Untill my last, I took Norco for a week then went back on subtext as normal, no problem , But could be booted from the program if they found out, stupid, And subutex messed up my teeth, 25, ooo dollars in dental bills,I was not sent to the clinice, I chose to go, I have had 30 surgeries and have Crohnic pain, there are times when it should be ok to take pain meds, like during after surgury, I hate this drug, But it got me so addicted to opiates now I can't stop, it's either pain pills or subutex,I want off This ride,,

Iv been taking subtex now for 3yrs and hav tried to come off it twice before im not goin to lye i used to abuse it an snort it to gdt the doubled affect but now just take it under my tongue. I have never used herion or crack i basically had a rough time in 2009 i just had my first child and a week later my mum lost her battle to cancer so my hed was all over the place n i missed her so much i wanted the pain to go away somy partner at the time was prescribed subutex because he had a herion addiction years b4 we married so he gave me some to take reassuring me this would help my state of mind (complete as****e i no!) 3 years on today we have now split an hes telling me he is no longer goin to giv me any sub to keep me goin n will leave me ill, no body nos about my addiction apart from him an i am worried to seek medical advice because im affraid they will hav concerns about my daughter even tho she is well looked after! I only take less than 1mg i break little bits off a big 8mg but i need to make the transition from 1mg to nothing at all and i just cant do it :( i also hav a eating disorder an im worried it will effect my apetite n i will end up in hospita, i want to get off it for good im sick of the stuff i feel ashamed by takin it an need my feelings bk to deal with my mums death which i havent been able to because iv masked my true feelings with this substance! Can anyone give me any advice an surport on how to finaally get off this horrible stuff that i wish i never took?? I have around about 4mgs left to last me till im goin to hav to seek advice i cant stress enough how bad this sub is an how creul ppl who ar surpost to love u the most push it on to u in ur most vunreble state :(even if someone could email me with advice thank u

my son is dependant on subutex and other precription drugs. an he go cold turkey when he runs out of subutex? he is 36

Not to bother everyone with a long story. Its a very similar one to alot of stories I have read. Car accidents over past years and bad choices have led me to being on pain medication....Specifically methadone..which i have gotten myself off of and still taking percocet to maintain until i can get on a short term suboxone plan....After finding out treatment center only takes cash for sub program and i would HAVE to do methadone again to use my insurance....I had to walk away and keep searching again.

 

Finally found a Dr who was taking patients...Maybe this is just a bad choice and i should keep looking but this was my first experience. They said it is a 12 month program..as if me requesting short term was a bad thing...and i have group health insurance but they insist on cash up front which is fine....but they said regardless of amount they have to hold any EXTRA cash after insurance covers. until end of program which will be 12 months- which isnt what i want to do. Is this typical? They didnt feel right...felt like they were pressuring and taking advantage and just trying to fill a quota.....if they have 600 dollars of my money and my insurance is paying why do they need to keep my money for a year.

This isnt even addressing cost of subs ..seems like having insurance is pointless the way they are presenting it. I am in washington state just searching for a way to fix all this. without starting something else. I want to recover from this and heal my mind and body...not get on something else for so long it will be another issue.

Thanks

Hi-after a long messy relationship with a secret smackhead who gave me my 1st hit,i've spent tens of thousands over the last decade.when i fell pregnant 2 yrs ago was far too scared to get docs help in case they took my beloved child.I self-weaned using gradually smaller doses of meth(apparently only safe thing??..)while 3months pregnant.After my birth,had near suicidal postnatal depression and fell back into old ways.My daughters 19months now,i been buying subutex for few months now.Hve tried coming off them and found the cold turkey harder than most-because it affects my mental headstate.So am taking 3milligrams a day and cutting down.The thing i've found with opiates is most people never just quit.It's a long battle,often start,stop,start,stop etc.But each time you really are 1 step closer to stopping.I'm with my little one literally all the time,everything i do is for her and were so very close.She's my life and right now I'd much rather be spending ten pounds a week on subs rather than meeting some sketchy f****r every day,spending forty pounds of our food money and putting my child at risk.Friends tell me i'm mad not to go to the docs for help but when i rang a drugs helpline they pretty much told me my daughter may be put into care.I'm not a positive do-gooder,I'm quite negative as a person but we can get off our ball and chain.And we can eventually stay off.The power of the mind is a lot lot stronger than the authorities would have us believe.After all,there's money to be made in us staying sick!So to anyone that reads any of this,good luck,and stay strong.We deserve better.In the times i have got clean,life has tasted so sweet.I must just keep that in mind when something bad happens in my life and stop resorting to the junk-as the only person i'm harming is myself and family. :)

Hi buddy, i been off 5 or 6 months, the physical was bearable, the lack of sleep we all know all too well but the depression that set in really blew my mind. it lasted longer, and to be honest still is to a much lesser degree, thank god,i couldnt even get motivated or have the energy to get out of bed so after 3 months went on an anti depressant and 20mg valium a day, groundhog day LOL, have tapered down the rotten energy sapping val's and am ready for the second time to cold turkey, i have found the V are out pretty much exact on the 21st day. i must also be real i was after 2 months getting 2mg suboxone every 2 weeks which i thought was leaving my system but nah it built up and just had a short sharp withdrawal from it. i also had smack or meth once a fortnite for the never ending denial of temp relief, im accepting again after years away from NA that i have to back to NA even its just 90 days or 12 months because the only way im going to have anything that would even resemle a life is through total abstinence, im 50 yo and have only had 40 days and 4 years abstinent, these two were many years apart, since i was 19 yo and i am 50, lucky with the alcohol have not had a sip for seven years, i live in beautiful surfing location and just want to wake up and join all around me in life.

i replied to you, naughty little smackhead, lol,but acc replied to my own post, if you scroll down i hope you find it i think my user name is darryl9, if your still around this site and you want i would send my email if u relate to my post, cheers mate.

hey everyone, Im in the same boat but ive been taken 16 mg suboxone for 4 years and 16 mg subutex for 3 yeares and been winging off for about 6 months, I break 8mg subutex into about 10- 12 pieces and take 1 piece only when i notice withdrawals Ive been off for 53 hours but i am also taking 50 grams of vitamin C a day only mild withdrawals