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MN MAN,

It seems to be probably and obstacle after after. As I mentioned previously, I think, Husband takes Suboxone because he tried to quit with help. Well now is has subs and has no tabs. Which is great beings that I'd rather, not just because its cheaper but because I don't think it's as bad, but who am I to say. So while he had and can find subs he doesn't take tabs. Furthermore, he cuts these strips into really small pieces and tries to taper off of them. The problem is he uses tabs and subs as an excuse because he has no energy. Meaning that when he doesn't have any, I'd say for a couple hours he gets so mad and ill and mean to me when I either don't have the money or he can't find any. It's like he says he really wants to quit and we've tried to make it happen but he eventually gives in. It's so bad that we can even have buy groceries for our really young son. I'm getting to the point after 4 years of this I don't know what else to do to help. I just wanna give up and me and our son leave. But I know that woulda me things worse on him with this dependency. I don't wanna hear about it or talk about it because it frustrates me and the only time, which is all the time, we argue is about this dependency sh*t. Anyways, I'm done venting and sorry and that. But honestly I don't think he can taper or go cold turkey by himself. Although I'd rather do that so we can get this behind us. But we already cannot support ourselves and child and without his income we will be in a ditch.

#givinguphopeandsanity
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do not take the lortab it will be way harder to get off!
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guest 1234,  I guess the only hope for all of you is if he can go into a residential treatment program where he is taken out of his normal home and life and goes through getting off and gets all the support from professional drug treatment. I considered this for myself, but the BS that went with getting a doctor to certify me as needing treatment and then leaving home, I live alone, was just too much. So I have tapered off on my own, VERY HARD!

All I can say is approach him about going into full treatment, obviously he can't get off the drug by himself. So much of this is mental. I have a strong will when I decide to do something. It was this which got me into drug trouble! I thought I could manage the drug, by taking it a couple times a week, then it became once a day then it all fell apart. Your husband's only hope in to get put in a full residential treatment program where he is gone and in a facility for some time.

Best luck though.

 

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Hey there! Yeah I figured you were working things out.
Acupuncture, that is great! WOW, that is what my brother did! He was an acupuncturist and an Chinese herbalist as well, how weird is that!
He swore that it helps!
I am doing well, working way too much, but it is keeping me occupied, so I don't have time the think about my problems :) We are still trying to get a trip arranged to start taking our stuff down to FL, just real hard with my full schedule.
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guest 1234, I agree, if he cannot make it happen on his own with your help, this may be the route to try. Most job's today have an anonymous employee help line, and clause in their insurance policy(Employee Assistance Program), he may be full protected with his job and be fully cover for treatment, it is something to look into. Also please look into Kratom!!!



I can't tell you one way or the other what you should do, but I will share with you the hell my brother put our family through with his drug addiction. My mother stuck with him, after numerous failed rehabs, therapy and halfway houses, for 20 years. She ended up loosing everything she had and her health, trying to help him, in the end he overdosed on pain pills one last time too many (had done this FIVE times before) Even though we all knew this would happen, it still devastated us, and destroyed my mother. As you know full well, addiction not only hurts the addict, it hurts their loved ones...There comes a point where we have to decide, give up and continue with the drugs or start living my life and having well being.



Peace and Strength .
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Agreed, you are just adding to the mix!
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I know how you feel. I think after 30 days you are pretty good but yeah def takes a few months. Actually though because of your taper you are prob going thru the worst now, and might feel better sooner. Def try to eat and drink!!!!
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That is really strange..Yeah I work all weekend should be good. That's exciting bout your move, it really is nice there.
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Purrrpill wrote:

Georgia Shakes wrote:

Hey there! Yeah I figured you were working things out.
Acupuncture, that is great! WOW, that is what my brother did! He was an acupuncturist and an Chinese herbalist as well, how weird is that!
He swore that it helps!
I am doing well, working way too much, but it is keeping me occupied, so I don't have time the think about my problems :) We are still trying to get a trip arranged to start taking our stuff down to FL, just real hard with my full schedule.


That is really strange..Yeah I work all weekend should be good. That's exciting bout your move, it really is nice there.


Hey Purrpill,
Not sure what is happening to my previous post, but wanted to say hi and see how you are doing? How are things?

Youtube Kate Bush- This Womens Work
"I know you have a little life in you yet, I know you have a lot of strength left"
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Hey Georgia how are you? I'm still fighting this. It is just so hard. I have been depressed, but with like most days I have been able to work hard.Some days I don't want to leave bed. Maybe I should have stayed on Kratom. I'm having a hard time with how hard this is and will it really be worth it. Oh your song is making me cry at work. I crave pills and know they are not going to help right.....??? I just feel like I'm fighting so hard for nothing. Sorry so down today.. How is work and the move going?

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Hey there! Sorry I did not mean to make you cry with that song!

It takes time, but the mental part is the HARDEST, but everyday you are a little better. Just remember that is just the addiction trying to use you to get back. Kratom does help. I know I felt better (mentally) after a few weeks with it.

Pink- Perfect

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PLEASE WHERE can I buy KRATOM in South Africa?? URGENT!!!
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Hi AVANDERRIET1,

I am not sure who does. You need to look online at vendors that deliver international, but I am sure there are probably some that sell locally.

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Hey. Yeah some days are better than others. I felt pretty good today almost 'normal'. I can't wait for the day i am happy about this choice. It does feel good not being a slave to dealers and thier products!! Idk, lifes wierd. I'll continue to chose to live it for now. Strength comes from knowing you did this........It sucks, and you are very strong. As bad as I want to give in I force myslf to just wait the day and am always happy the next day to have not have used. i hope Sandy didn't hit ya'll. We are suposed to get hit tom. night.

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This thread has some really good advice.

Here's some advice that may help:

I've found that just plain old mints help with the stomach upset. They won't stop your rear becoming a tap for brown liquid but they will really help when you feel absolutely hungry but can't stomach food without vomiting (around 4 - 7 days). Do eat as much healthy food as you can, when you can without vomiting.

Also, others have mentioned this but: exercise is really one of the best things you can do to help yourself through this. For the worst of it, all you will want to do is curl up and sleep to block out twitchiness, hot/cold sweats and general lack of sleep later into the wd. You won't always be able to catch an hour this way. If you just cannot make yourself sleep, force yourself to go for a walk - even if it's just up/down stairs or around the house. It will help. Even if this can sometimes bring the bowel upset back, it's worth it to have a means of tiring yourself out without trying to sleep in a pile of sweaty blankets and thinking things over and over again.

Hot showers help for a bit and get rid of the sweat smell which also helps.

Avoid hot drinks. They may help with some people but I've found they just make the bowel/sickness problems worse.

Stop hanging around with the people you've been knocking around with who use. If you can't do this then you won't make it through.

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