Loperamide does NOT cross the blood brain barrier. This means it is NOT addictive. It is a biochemical impossibility.
If you have diarrhea when you stop it, it means you have an underlying cause. NOT a bacterial infection, because that will not last 24 years.
It's likely either crohns disease (ulcerative colitis) or irritable bowel. Irritable bowel, you need to basically find out what helps for you. I basically just have to take loperamide every day. Just like with any other illness, that' what I have to take.
Do NOT give out advice to people when you don't know what you're talking about
- Kate . (Biology, medical science, and biochemistry student)
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...So, before you call a forum full of people liars, just because you think you know it all ---DO YOUR RESEARCH,
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Loperamide does NOT cross the blood brain barrier. This means it is NOT addictive. It is a biochemical impossibility.
If you have diarrhea when you stop it, it means you have an underlying cause. NOT a bacterial infection, because that will not last 24 years.
It's likely either crohns disease (ulcerative colitis) or irritable bowel. Irritable bowel, you need to basically find out what helps for you. I basically just have to take loperamide every day. Just like with any other illness, that' what I have to take.
Do NOT give out advice to people when you don't know what you're talking about."
- Kate . (Biology, medical science, and biochemistry student)
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Kate, currently it appears that the medical profession does not acknowledge withdrawal syndrome with high-dose loperamide usage. This may or may not be due to the fact that it does not cross the blood-brain barrier in significant quantities. However it does bind to opiate receptors in the intestines, as do other opiates. Any substance with an affinity for opiate receptors, when used repeatedly and then withdrawn, will induce opiate withdrawal symptoms - whether or not the substance is actually a psychoactive opioid agonist. Simply put, Imodium will relieve withdrawal symptoms and bring the user back to the baseline. The fact that it doesn't take you any higher than that is irrelevant, when all you're really doing is relieving withdrawal symptoms in the first place. Now if that's not addiction, I don't know what is.
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DiarrheaGurll wrote:
:D Well hello everyone I have been taking Immodium AD for like 11 years yes everyday for my Anxiety and IBS systems~They still don't know whats wrong with me but now they think I have Endometriosis which I would be so glad if that was it and they could get rid of my Diarrhea~I know I have ulcers because when I eat spicy stuff my stomach will burn~Anyways I'm still here but I noticed that the Immodium at times will make me light headed and sometimes give me cramps like I have a big piece of poo in my right intestine(sorry) THEN the next day(sometimes like 1 in a million) my diarrhea will leave but it(poo) is so big it feels like it's pulling my intestines out(I know gross I'm sorry but true) Anyways I hope everyone doesn't think I'm gross this is the honest truth so if you don't have diarrhea you are blessed I would pay a doctor 500,000 if they cured me but I'm not sure about that now~Take Care~Melany
WOW!!! I'm still amazed at how many people have stomach ulcers that don't realize that it's a bacterial infection that can be cured with a perscription from the doctor!?!?!?!? (it's H.Pylori btw).
NO! NO! NO! Conventional medicine (antibiotics) will only make it WAY WORSE. Find a holistic health practitioner or counselor who works with the whole body...not conventional medicine...food based healing through integrative nutrition is the only REAL answer.
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When I was in high school, I drank too much coffee, and they wouldn't always let us take bathroom breaks (Some classes were only allowed 4 breaks a semester, which by the way, can be filed under cruel and unusual punishment if you ever wind up taking them to court, I eventually did.) But anywho, so I took Imodium. Later after that, I had my gall bladder removed, and I was only up to one pill a day, just as the directions say, unless you have to poop again, then take one more pill after that.
Well, One more pill suddenly didn't work anymore, regardless of them saying your body will not develop a tolerance. So I took two a day, three a day, four a day. I stopped when I was pregnant and they ended up giving me something else for it, but it didn't even dent my problems so I just stayed home all the time instead of going out because this is so embarrassing. Who wants to poop in public, honestly? Nothing like hitting the handle to flush over and over again just to make sure the area won't stink while blushing so hard I could nearly faint from embarrassment. (True story.)
SO, I'm up to 5 a day, just to make sure I won't have to stop and run to the bathroom so that I can keep chasing after my rugrat.
I HAVE changed my damn diet. I have changed my medication, I have limited my intake, HELL I even tried starving to get it to stop. Not eating doesn't even dent this thing, and every doctor I've gone to says it's normal after my gallbladder disease and removal so whatever.
Oh, and most of the time it's not an ulcer, most people just don't realize the severity of acid reflux or heartburn. I have acid reflux, too and it just doesn't even begin to help with the problem.
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You are going thru withdrawl symptoms. I have been taking Imodium for 10 years now because of IBS and everytime I go off same thing as you.
Within 3 to 4 days the diarhea starts and as of yet I have not been able to get past the 2 week mark because of it. The flu like sympton and what
I call the hebejebees eventually go away after about a week. Miserable up till then.
What helps is taking tylenol or a product like it. It will help on the hebejebees and the muscle aches and pains. Taking Benefill with every meal
may also help you with the diarhea. Drinking water and bread will also help. I encourage you to keep going before you end up as addicted as
me. Iam planning on trying again next week when I have a very slow schedule.
Good luck and god bless.
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I'm in almost the exact same situation as the poster above. I'm 25 with IBS-D caused primarily by long term anxiety and depression conditions I've had since I was eight (yes, that young). My IBS started when I was 15/16 though I often had the less destructive symptoms such as extremely painful abdominal cramps since 11 years old. This is my 6th year on loperamide which took me around 10 doctors, a specialist included, to find out about. Until then I was getting ridiculous advice centering on high fiber diets repeated ad infinitum. For some reason all the other doctors assumed I was lying when I said IT MADE ME WORSE.
So, to my experiences.
1) Is loperamide addictive?
I'd say yes, and I usually don't take any more than 5 a day on a bad day. But then I count the behavioral impact as part of addiction. You have diarrhea, you take pill, diarrhea stops, you feel happy. Chemically I don't know, after a few days without it I start to have problems but I pin that down on being purely psychological. Fear of the consequences of not taking it due to a natural condition. I have had chills and a constant migraine also however I would have these symptoms before I started taking loperamide on occasions where my IBS was particularly bad.
2) Do you build up a tolerance for loperamide?
Yes. Hell yes. All the data seems to say no but all the data is wrong. You build up a tolerance, go off it for two weeks if you can manage, and then go back on it. Even then it might not work as well as it used to, but hey it means you can leave the house.
3) Should we be worried?
Probably. I find my brain doesn't work as efficiently when I'm on loperamide, I believe this may be a consequence of the dehydration that results from its use. The symptoms so many people here are describing are rather confronting but most seem to have situational aspects that may have more to do with the result rather than the loperamide itself. I don't see much wrong with the fact of addiction as such, since caffeine withdraw for me at least has mostly the same symptoms.
4) Is it worth taking knowing it's a risk?
Again, most definitely yes for me. I recently had a conversation with a relative who was concerned that I was taking it almost daily. They mentioned that we don't know what it will do to my body, and I answered that I don't care. I told them I don't care if I die 10 years later due to my taking the drug, it's better than the alternative. Without it I would be dead already as my pre-loperamide days involved my anxiety and IBS fueling each other until I couldn't leave the house, had a mental breakdown and very logically planned my suicide (with various phases, including ways to ensure I didn't change my mind later, said all I needed to to my relatives, and placed the lowest strain on the world by consuming fewer resources and cutting off all contact with another living person until my final day at the end of the month).
This is not uncommon. Most people with severe IBS end up going through a period of such anxiety that they become shut-ins. The more you stay a shut-in the greater the anxiety and depression builds, leads to a loss of purpose and therefore suicidal thoughts. This is also a natural consequence of our make-up. We learn and repeat behavior, observe the consequences of that behavior, and our brain decides where the behavior should continue or not. For IBS sufferers the humiliation of facing an attack in a public place, both the reaction of other people and your opinion of yourself (since lack of control over your own digestive system as an adult is a painful realization), is obviously negative. We want to stop the pain and humiliation, but we can't stop the behavior that causes it therefore the only other option to us is exclusion. Even that doesn't work entirely because you can't depart from your body any way other than death.
In order TO LIVE I take loperamide. It's not a magical pill to fix all your woes but it means I can leave the house, have a social life, work, study and do things that so many people take for granted. Some days I still can't but it's still worth it for those days I can. If it means I need to take it for the rest of my life, I will. If it means it kills me, that's okay. The only consequence I would care about is if it stopped working and also worsened my condition, however in this case I would take my risks with the more dangerous drugs.
**For those who would like to take fewer pills I recommend taking a look at probiotics. I found that the particular one I'm on, while didn't stop my condition on its own, seemed to improve the effectiveness of loperamide.
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