suboxone long-term negative effects

.....If anyone is reading this and truely would like to discuss or ask me anything. I am very passionate about this subject. These "drugs" have saved and destroyed my life 100x over. So yeah i live this topic. I would love to think i have helped someone who is suffering from this dreaded diease! Aka LIFE to myself and millions of others. Or if you feel you can hep me.
....Im on suboxone. I have been for 8 years. It saved my life. Not because opiates are so dangerous and evil. Because i would be in prison by now.

The truth is FOR ME. Opiates saved my life from depression. If it were not for opiates I KNOW FOR A FACT I WOULD HAVE KILLED MYSELF by now.

I still use opiates to handle overwhelming felilings of depression. I just have to plan it. Which is a good thing. There is nomore reckless instant gratification. I have the subs to get me through lifes everyday bumps and bruises. . but when i get low and feel life threatening depression coming on i drop the 1/4 strip of suboxone for 24 hours and off to "numb town" i go. I stay as numb as i can for as long as needed or out of money. Then i have suboxone to stay well from opiate withdrawal. .. It is the best cure in the world other than NOT NEEDING opiates to start with.
But again I NEEDED OPIATES!
And will till i die.

Im trying to keep it short. But its hard.

I notice that when im on heroin or oxy or methadone ..... I dont drink. My desire for alcohol is gone. (Doctors have known this for over 100 years)
High doses of suboxone do the same. However, time goes by and i realize i dont need 3 suboxone a day. I just need a 1/4 of one. But, here comes the reckless drinking and abuse of other drugs.
I believe this is what the woman who started this topics husband was experiencing.
It wasnt that suboxone changed your husband it was the lack of opiates that did.
You had become used to him "high" and lets be 100% on this OPIATE HIGH IS AMAZINGLY WONDERFUL! Its the lack of or the STRUGGLE TO MAINTAIN its high.
When im high im a better husband, father, employee. Life is better. I believe drugs are heaven sent. They are Gods tools for life managment.( I also belueve that man is f*****g THIS UP! With reckless misuse and tweaking of natural herbs and botanical remedies.) but thats besides the point that. .
Your husband off opiates and on suboxone (also an opiate) did not recognize that he was now back on lifes terms. .. He unfortunately didnt understand the important balance he needed.
After life on opiates one has little hope of happiness again. . .
Im a work in progress.

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Suboxone is a miracle for people stuck in the viscious lifestyle of heroine. It was a miracle for me but getting off it quickly once i removed myself from heroine was the best thing i ever did. I was scared to death of withdrawals and thats what kept me from quitting H. Once i came clean to my family and got in a safe place i tapered off the suboxone and still got violently ill for 10 days. It was hell to go through but once I was done i learned more from that horrible experience than i ever would have if i was still masking the pain and being reliant on suboxone. You have to pay the piper one way or another. There is no getting around it. Get to a safe place if possible, out of state or whatever you can do and deal with the pain. In a few months you will be good as new and will genuinely be over your hard core opiate addiction. You will still be weak to a pain killer and may f**k up a couple times but you have to know you dont want that life anymore and you will get through those little slip ups if you care enough not to be that person. Ay the end of the day we have to deal with ourselves and want to get better. Suboxone is an extremely powerful drug and you will not be yourself on this stuff. If you dont believe me try the stuff once your tolerence is gone. The stuff will f**k you up for days harder than heroine ever did. Its pharmacuetical companies taking advantage of heroine addicts and keeping them on it for life if possible to get your money. Horrible sh*t

It isn't success. 6 years is too long. He should have winged off by now. It will ruin your life if you don't get off it completely trust me I know. It makes you empty, depressed, no motivation or at least makes you start things but never finish.. I hate it and will never go back.. Now for someone who was addicted to heroine it can save your life but get off the subozone as well.

I am concerned for the push for $ubonoxone and $ubutex!
(Especially the talk of implants containing these meds.)
I will agree that subutex can save lives as i saw it "block" my sisters heavy intentional overdose as she became very suicidal and tried hard to succeed one lonely desparate night as she had learned there's really no help to her to get off these drugs that were ruining her life. However long term subutex use was most likely the reason she even attempted suicide and all the mania that trashed her life leading up to the time of the attempt . Her drug package was to treat pain from multiple joint replacements and breast cancer. She was /is treating long term post surgical pain that resulted in nerve damage with multiple prescribed drugs to treat pain and sude affects of meds. She became extremely manic and paronoid and isolated each time she resumed subutex following short term opiod treatment post surgically. The addition of benzos only compounded the issue. She has been off opiates and subutex 2 months. Benzos prescribed for withdrawal became the next demon of drugs to drop as she became even more symptomatic with withdrawals and adverse reactions. She is by no means over withdrawals and has been hospitalized 5 times with extreme symptoms and sent home with little hope except time. Her MODA/medicare. Will not cover a treatment facility as advertised everywhere these days abd she remains miserable and at risk with pain, tremors, suicidal or hopeless feelings, insomnia, anxiety, sensitivity to light, sound, touch and complains of uncomfortable perceptual hilucinations and debilitating dementia. Suboxone and Subutex are not for everyone and all the treatment facilities and Big Pharma stand to profit hugely from their designer "pseudo" opiate. Suboxone/ subutex also makes anesthesia very risky and pain control nearly impossible in the post surgical patient. Suboxone/Subutex is only replacing one addiction with another here im afraid with serious mental health dangers. Be ware!

yeah that's what my ex-wife told my oldest son and 2 days later he took his own life.