I just recently, went through suboxone withdrawal. Successfully. I am just about 1 month clean now.
Before I start my rambling, Let me say when I first made the choice to get clean, I did a lot of reading particularly on this website, and honestly all it did was make it worse, reading all the horror stories and what not. You need to stay positive, and for me, I just kept reminding myself that before i started using drugs, I was "normal" and I will be normal again. and around the 12 day mark. I finally felt normal! Except for the sweats... but they are gone now. Everything will pass. Remind yourself of that, and it'll help.
Before suboxone, I was a heavy opiate user for about 9 years. Pretty much anything, Oxys, roxys, tramadal, darvacet, heroine.... anything and heavily. I thought suboxone was amazing, until I realized, it's the same sh*t and effects my life the same way as all the other garbage I was doing. Especially since I did not have a prescription, but, I was buying scripts from a friend and following their directions from their doctor. Regardless, I was on suboxone for nearly 3 years.
I'm a 27 year old male. Average weight average height. I did not follow any gimmicks, or procedures for getting clean. I simply went cold turkey. I know that sounds crazy, but it worked for me. I went through all of the symptoms, the sweats, restless legs, cramps, pains, etc. but it all passed.
I'll admit, I was very depressed, and very anxious and I honestly believe, that's what makes the withdrawal worse, after day 3 when the symptoms finally let me think straight, I just kept reminding myself it'll get better, and it eventually did.
Things that helped me get through this, was admitting my problems to my girlfriend, who thankfully understood, and allowed me the time to be a piece of useless c**p and lay around until everything passed, sometimes she was a little impatient, but i also believe that was helpful as it made me face reality.
I drank a LOT of water, and cranberry juice. I ate very little, but when I did, it was toast and eggs as my stomach was very upset.
Things, that helped me sleep, which I never did actually sleep, maybe for 30-60 mins at a time. Was listening to TV in the background, and tying my legs together. Yes I actually took my dog's leash and tied my legs together, them being tied together provided some comfort and stopped me from flailing around all night. Night 3, I was determined to sleep, so I asked someone for a sleeping pill, i believe it was called Mylan. I took one of them, and finally got a good night's sleep. I was tempted to ask for more, but I really wanted to do this without supplementing drugs for drugs. No booze, no pot, nothing. The night after, day 4, I finally got sleep, without aide, and I awoke the next morning took a long hot shower, then sat in the shower, with only the hot water on, just to sweat. And feel warm, as I was extremely cold most of the time. Anyways, after that shower, I finally felt like my body was regaining some strength and energy, then everything went uphill from there. Every day I felt more energetic and more "strong". I've been eating healthy, and trying to stay active. I finally feel normal 100%. I'm glad I finally did this. I've attempted it nearly 5 times now, and always relapsed as soon as withdrawal symptoms set in.
So please, stay positive, do anything you can to remind yourself, it will pass, and you will be Ok. I am sorry if you're currently going through it, and it seems like there's no end. But I assure you, you were clean once, and you can be clean again. Keep positive things in your life, and try at all costs to be happy. Maybe it's not just your drug use that you have to change in your life.
Good luck.
simP
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would get my hands on enough vic. perc. oxy, soma to say nothing of alcohol or pot. didnt think it was such a big deal because when i ran out or couldnt find i just wouldnt take for 6mo to a year. But then seemingly out of the blue I'd either have a dream or an immediate NEED to find and use. so i did.<p>
At 17 i found my first steady dealer on top- of the 180 perc 10's my doc was perscribing monthly. Life SEEMED fabulous.<p>
At 19 my hubby and i decided to try for a kid (issues there but not important to this). Its my belief that my husband chose to not see what was going on, he knew i used sometimes but not the extent. well after being clean etc for the fertility treatments 3 months later i was pregnant. After 8 months clean you'd think id have a head start, until birth complications (my side). BUT what wonder drug is safe for nursing and shoved down your throat when your hemoriaging (sp?) PERCOCET! So already being on those i luicked out and went into major post partum and deeper into pills than i had before. didnt matter what script it was (or whose) id down it just to try for some mental escape.
Got back on my 180 from the doc, plus 40 30 oxys a month from a diff doc, and got back with my dealer so ANOTHER 207 a month.
By Nov of 09 i'd driven up our CC so high and missed sooo much of my daughters growing up, i knew i was done, really really done. i told all my close family what was going on, even tho i knew they wouldnt understand the extent i was so tired of hiding, and lying to my hubby everyday. let me tell you it takes a seriously strong relationship and mostly partner to take that (mostly) in stride. I set my final quit for 1-1-10 and told everyone that i would be coming down from 300mg of perc over night (weekend, week). did that , MUCH easier than the suboxone let me tell ya.
Went to NA, which to me made it worse... how is talking about what i want more than anything for an hour a day going to help me? especially when alot of them were going on and on about how great they "thought" their using was. umm no.
councelors, drug abuse specialists etc, none of them were too helpful. the last actually told me the only way id get better was leave me husband and kid, quit my job, move in with my parents and live of the state. WTF???????? even throu all that id at least somehow kept my job and family wasnt giving them up now especially since i wanted to get clean for her more than anything.
Finally someone i had met thru NA who felt the same i did recomended suboxone. so i tracked down the one, uno dr on island who perscribed it. funny he's also the loosest with oxy. f**ker. He gave me 3 percs for the day before since i guess we're supposed to be in withdraw to start it.... weird to me.
then he started me on 2 8MG which didnt prove to be enough after the first few weeks so i went up to 24mg daily.
HERE'S WHERE IT MIGHT GET HELPFUL ABOUT THE SUBOXONE: being me and an addict i had to test and see if i was truly "blocked" from them percs, oxys, even tramadols NOTHING, whoa. that was nice. sedatives and that sort got thru but not my main choice. after proving that to myself i was able to actually try to focus on why I wanted to be clean, why even when i was able to take them agian the pros and cons. in july i had to have foot surgery and the doc :flora: giving me the suboxone told me it was ok we'll take you off for two weeks put you on your max perc and then start over. **ck you!!!! i got the script went of the sub. for 2 days and didnt want to risk it after 2 days the meds made no effect and i didnt want to chance it 7 months in. next month when i went back in for my sub. script he asked how it was how i did etc. i told him he was a freaking id**t and that adfter two days and downing the opiates i felt nothing and didnt want to. id rather go thru the physical pain temp. than start over that c**p. Dude actually clapped at me. apparently thiss was a real option but more of a test to see if id gained will power yet. sub. takes a min of 4 days to get out enough to open your receptors.
since he gets payed big bucks every time he writes a $963 monthly script of it he wanted me to be on forever. (luckily insurance is my friend at the moment). so end of july i cut down to 16mg about Nov i started alternating 1-2 a day. by Jan (2011) 1 was down to 1 8mg. keep in mind doc refused to help me drop and insisted on still writing me 3 a day the whole time.
now the bad times
begining of Feb i cut to half a pill so i went from 8mg to 4. sure as sh*t after day 4 i was in full withdrawl. told myself skrew this im not gonna withdraw this hardcore now then do it agian when i want off of them. and i am sure as h*ll not going to be on a pill, any pill forever. so i stopped it completely.
by night 5 the abdominal pain was so bad i didnt even know what was going on, ive done the opiate withdrawl thing before not like this. i could deal with the hot-cold the shakeyness dizzyness, alternating between praying to the toilet and living on it, the aches and pains the creepy crawly everywhere. not cool way not cool.
by day 8 i felt about 80 could function felt safe to take care of my daughter (wouldnt hurt her or anything but she doesnt need mommy to just cry on her all day).
but the night of 8-9 hit brand new worse than itd been. i begged a ride to my pysch. since i wasnt safe to drive. walked in her receptionist looked at me and canceled her apps. after explaining to her what was going on she wrote me out enough scripts to keep me pretty much in a coma for 4-5 days. unofficially recomended pot and turned down alcohol(would maike the creepies worse) after actually getting to rest wether real or artificial at day 20 im actually doing good. she had me on 20mg ambien, 30mg temezapam, 16mg klonipin. too much but it worked.
if you can turn down the opiates that WILL be offered to you to "help" you'll get thru it. and weird as it sounds being YOU agian isnt nearly as bad as it seemed before.
After going thru this im not sure if i'd recomend suboxone to anyone else ever, it did give me an invaluable year of it being impossible for me to slip. and in turn or also gave me the chance to build my own self control MY way not he said she said this is the right way.
If gets better i promise and even trying to get clean on suboxone or anything else is BIG dont let others discount it, cuz they will. And everyone wants to say you have to do it for YOU or it wont work. thats bull IMO with the lack of self confidence etc whatever i have in myself getting clean for my daughter was the way.
hope this helps even one person,
Tabby[enc]
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I Multi-Vitamin, taken daily started about 5 months ago.
2 Whey protein shakes, one in the morning and one in the afternoon (To maximize my ability to get through a workday), started about 5 months ago
3 square meals a day, I rarely ate breakfast before last week
Daily exercise, I began lifting about 5 months ago, and regularly go four to five times per week. Additionally, for the first week of withdrawal I ran early in the morning before lifting after work. This hard work made me sore as hell, but I was always focusing on how sore I was, not any withdrawal symptons I was feeling
St John's Wort-To help with the mood swings and depression you feel immediately while in withdrawal, taken as needed
I'm certainly not a doctor, but this routine and taper worked well for me. I think the other part to this is wanting it. I've been disgusted by the mistakes I made while on percocet, and suboxone was the one last thing reminding me of those times. It was also the one last thing they I felt uncomfortable discussing with those people closest to me. I am not much of a sharer to begin with but having a dependency on it made me uncomfortable with myself, and I often felt depressed or unable to communciate with people I loved. I am glad to be off suboxone one week to the day, and I am looking forward to the next phase of recovery by rebuilding relationships I lost. I hope someone is able to use this information to end their time on suboxone. For me, it was all about the preparation, and it's begun to pay off in a big way.
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1. MultiVitamins- Take them with Milk. Vitamins A,D,E and K are fat-soluble. They all help with withdrawal symptoms
2. Xanax- To relieve anxiety and help me sleep
3. St. Johns Wort- Herbal Supplement that helps promote good mood.
4. Exercise- You will have zero motivation when w.d.s begin, but force yourself to work out- You'll naturally release endorphines.
5. Drink lots of fluids
6. Surround yourself with people you love
7. Try to participate in your hobbies that involve getting out of the house. I love to golf. Occupying yourself with a hobby you love actually helps ease w.d. symptoms. On the contrary, I also play the guitar. However, it does not help because I'm sitting in your house while I play it. You want to get away from your place of physical suffering/pain. It will help. Please trust me.
8. Pure calm- Natural liquid herbal supplement that can be used as an alternative to Xanax.
9.Second-Most Importantly: STAY AWAY FROM GIRLS. Relationships= Relapse. Guaranteed. Trust me, I know.
10. Be positive. Know that it's going to be over soon. Think about a time you look forward to that is months away. Suddenly, that time was over months ago. You'll get there. Just stay true to yourself.
Regardless, your mind is going to be cloudy. Remember, your body is going through drastic changes.
**I am not a doctor, nor was I given any of these preparations by a doctor. This is simply a method I used. Good luck, and cheers to sobriety.
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well i have been an on pain pills for years and ive been going to a sub dr for a year and a half .....i'm so tired of going i want to quit but this place has it planted in our head that by the 3rd day we will start feeling bad so when we do try all we think of is not wanting to feel the way we did when we first started to get help cause withdrawals is the hardest thing i have ever been through in my life and i never want to feel that again...but i don't want to keep think i need the sub everyday just to live life,just to be normal,and the sub office is costing the hell outta me....i want to stop i want to be free of the sub....please if anyone knows of anyway to stop the sub and not feel bad why doing it....is there something we can use to help us not feel bad while trying to quit something good for our bodies ...like organic foods or or natural pills like them ones people take thats good for the like fish oil....stuff like that....please if anyone knows any ways i would love to hear them cause i'm going to quit the sub no matter what but id like to do it and not feel as crappy....thank u all and god bless and i will pray for each of u an easier road to recovery
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I'm having a hard time post lumbar spine surgery. On my 7th week and I don't think the pain medication has worked, or if so minimally. Even being completely honest with doctors, I'm only now realizing how few know much about this, and also that it may affect people differently depending on variables. It wasn't until a minute or so before going under, that the anesthesiologist mentioned I'd probably have difficulty with pain management. I also had one nurse who suggested the same thing. I was taking .5-1 mg daily pre surgery, none since. I tried to cold turkey off the 2mg I was taking in January. 2.5 weeks later, 20lbs ligher @ 90lbs, I tried a small amount just to keep me healthy enough for Feb.surgery.
I've been living with sciatica at least 35 years, my surgeon says it may be congenital. I have been misdiagnosed since I first asked for help in my early twenties. Back brace and large amounts of ibuporfen prescribed didn't help, made me vomit and cramp up adding to the misery of sciatica. I tried it for a year, gave up and hurt for a long time. Not thinking they'd really work, desperate, I tried poppy tea, found em' in my yard and at craft stores. I realized indeed it worked. I've been successfully on suboxone over 3.5 years after being addicted to poppy tea for 20 years. Shortly after starting suboxone, I went from the 6mg prescribed to 4mg. I've been comfortable and committed to not relapsing. All these years later, the last 5 in constant pain, an MRI and a 2nd look at an xray showed the only fix for me was spinal fusion. The vertabrae were overlapped, synovial cysts, etc. nerve damage.
I told my doctors about my addiction and suboxone history, I still get embarrassed but it's neccessary. I'm only now realizing how little is known or how contradictory the information and or individual responses are to this medication. It's been great for me for so long, but I'm thinking it's still effecting my receptors and means of pain management. I know I'm getting depressed. Part of me is thinking maybe it's for the best, at least I didn't get addicted to the pain medication. I am worried that all this is going to slow what I'm realizing is a long recovery. I'm so tired, thin, my muscles hurt, (not w/d, too many times, know the difference) Bright side the sciatica is gone, weirdly my digestive system is cranking up hoping it's nerve regeneration.
Just one story.
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