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:-P hello all, i have reduced over 2 months from 16mg of subutex to now taking 0.8mg.........the reason i have done this is that i am starting ivf treatment and i want to have the best chance possible...if im honest,i found it really easy until i reached 1mg then i started to experience sleepless nites and feeling hot skin rushes...will this get better? i just want to come off it totally,but i feel that it might be in my mind,can anyone relate to this?.........also,the chemist has told me there is a problem supplying subutex 0.4mg tablets,so they have given me another brand,just called buprenophine..it feels different,can someone clear this up for me? thankyou
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Hey everyone,

This will be my last post probably on the subject of tapering/jumping off subutex. I have been off of it 100% (see my 2 previous posts) for one entire week - 7 days. I started sleeping through the night very comfortably three nights ago, only getting up to use the toilet every now and again. Once done, I am back to bed and back to sleep. The RLS I was experiencing has stopped (remember to keep up your iron intake to help with that), and I honestly feel 100% normal... like I was feeling when I was ON subutex... only I don't have to take the subutex anymore. Am I disillusioned about the possibility of further withdrawal symptoms or possibly wanting to use again if other pills crossed my path? No - I know it can happen, so I will read my posts on her to remind myself of why I quit. In hindsight, my biggest fear was not knowing what the withdrawal symptoms would truly be, and really, how long they would last. I figured I would be down for weeks (even my Dr. said it could be two really tough weeks). THAT is what kept me from quitting sooner. I thank God (and I am no church goer) for the lenience I have been given with this, and must tell you - I am SURE that I am not the only person who will sail through this as easily as I did. Don't fret if you feel some withdrawal. If you didn't, you wouldn't see any reason to quit I suppose. Just rememner - don't assume that it will be a living hell... or it certainly will be. You have more power through your own suggestion to keep the experience positive. In fact, the moment that I FORCED myself to stop being so freaked out and negative about it, was the moment I started to feel better (and continue to do so!).

You CAN do it. I PROMISE!

Power to the Peaceful. Peace out.
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hi, ive been on subutex for the past 3 years. i started at 28mg (i was shooting 3 or 4 grams of dope a day). i taper 2mg every 6wks or so depending on how i feel. sometimes when i taper its not too bad, i just get a little anxious and achy. other times i feel really sick and start throwing up, havign diarrhea, suuper achy, and insomnia. i suggest tapering slowly and if it doesnt feel right then to just wait. im sober and working a 12 step program which makes it a lot easier for me since i have a good support system. subutex saved my life, i just hate the effects of tapering and the fact that my loife gets disturbed for a couple weeks every two monthes.
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Hi, I have been using buprenorphine for one year now and I have decided to stop, I have reduced my dosage from 8mg per day to 0.3mg per day over one week and have now ran out.

I am feeling not as bad as I thought I would but have the typical 'rattling' signs such as constant stretching, yawning, nausea, violent sneezing, runny nose, watering eyes, hot and frosty sweats, lethargy, painful itching and general aches, however I am able to fight these symptoms by going about my daily duties.

I have been using 5mg of diazapam per day to combat the sleep issue and 30/500 co-codamol to act as some form of substitute to keep the stomach pains at bay.

I wish to know given the time I reduced, the length of my habit and my current replacement scheme, how long the withdrawal syndrome will last.

Awaiting reply, thanks in advance.
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I was using vicodin for about 4 months and my husband and i decided i needed a detox doctor..HE put my on 16mg of subutex a day for 2 half months. I missed my app and my doc wouldn't see me cause he didnt have any app open. so i decided i dont want to be on it so i should quit.. OMG what was i thinking i guess now its not so bad maybe a good thing what im doing but let me tell you how its been'

day 1- Nothing feels like im on sub
day2- still nothing just like i took my sub
day 3- I feel so tired my back hurts and i have weird feeling in my throat cant explain nausia and really bad stomach pain
day 4- I don't think i can do this i rather die i keep crying cant sleep cant get comfortable i can hardly walk my back hurts so bad just getting up to pee is a really hard task i can't eat and im actually constipated which i wasn't expecting.(i really thought after day 2 i was find to quit but day 3 is when you will know
day5- I feel exactly like day 4 if not worse
day 6 I think i feel alittle better not sure tho weird
day 7 i feel same as yesterday i am actually sitting in the living room and out of my bed. (stomach pain everyday)

I don't know how long this will take but i cant stop crying i feel like this is to hard i dont know if im really getting better or if i am coping with a feeling i am goin to have forever I feel so bad someone please tell me they know how im feeling and that is will go away becaue i feel like this will never end

It kind of feels like i sat in a really hot hottub for 24 hours and made me nauseous and over whelming fatigue and bad feeling also i feel just bad really bad someone just tell me what will help i cant do this.


I also feel that my vicodin withdraw was bad but it was so long ago i cant remember so i don;t know if this is worse and i also think that maybe the other people on here cant really remember how bad there old withdraw was i actually think suboxone an subutex withdraw is just as bad but i don't was vicodin i actally crave subutex so i donlt know is craving subs better than craving vicodin i dont know at all i cant even think straight im going to go take some melatonin and try to go to sleep again also dont take ambien or lunesta they wont make you sleep they will only make you hallusinate and its really weird trying to sleep while thinking weird things its just worse
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I was on suboxone/subutex for 1.5 years. Stopped cold turkey at 8mg/day appx. 2 weeks ago. Still withdrawing, not as severe of symptoms as withdrawing from oxycontin but the withdrawal lasts longer. And actually the first 2-3 days I felt fine. These meds linger in your system like methadone. But I am still showing up dirty for suboxone on drug tests. How long does it take for that to stop?
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hi i have been a subutex for 2 years >;) now and my hubby for 5 years. :-S . I am at a part in my life were i wont to get off it all together im on 24mg a day. Should the hubby and i get off together or one at a time?
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Hi,

I was on subutex for 7 years, i messed up twice and had my dose increased a coupe of times (In the earier years) ive been cean with the help of subutex for 5 years and after repeatedly requesting to detox and been told 'Next month, Next Month' I decided that I was absoutley sick of waiting, so with my last weeks set of subutex I reduced from 3.2 mg p/d over a week to 0.4 mg, Then i threw away all i had left and settled in for a rough couple of days.

the first two were rough but i was able to cope, the third night was an absolute nightmare, i was in an incredible amount of pain throughout all my joints.

BUT....

it sounds daft but i laughed through it cos i knew that this is why i am never touching geaar again, as hard as this is, after being clean for so long what will be harder is explianing to my family why i was using again...

The irony of it made me chuckle, go through incredible pain now and get thru it, or take some gear and have to tell everyone why...


Its day 6 now, very cold, pretty weak, but i am feeling a lot better.

Im also glad its not a methadone rattle, - last one i had lasted nearly 3 weeks (that was about 10 years ago - never touched meth since)
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i have done a subutex detox twice now and one methadone i am currently doing a subutex and im on 0.4 at the moment. it its my last day today but because i have done it before i know what to come. all i have is the sniffles and restlessness but nothing i cant handle. from my previous rattles its best not to lye in bed at night cos u wont sleep and the twitching gets worse than ever. if you listen to people who say it was bad then ur rattle will be bad its all in the head. just go to the gym it really douse help. have red hot showers that dose wonders. i was in prison 10 years ago and done a bare back rattle of methadone, that toulk 6 weeks all together with no sleep, literary no sleep. so coming of 0.4 is just small fry. just get active, get those endorfines working dirink plenty and after 3 to 4 days ur gonna feel on top of the world. oh yeah if u think u might relapse don't even bother trying cos ur going through pain 4 nowt. ill let u know how i get on. shaun
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Helllo.... I have been taking oxycontin for 3 years... during that time frame i was taking subutex when i couldnt get ne thing... now im two weeks offf oxy and down to 2mg of subutex every 2 days? i kno im being a p***y but what should i do?
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the only advice i can think of to give if u want it is. dont let anything u read on here or any other site scare u cause the thing were dealing with can smell fear and weakness at a thousand paces. regardless of all the other people, the ones that care and the ones that dont, ur doin this because U want to do it and U already know that u are bigger n u are better than this otherwise u would'nt be so wrapped up in what im sayin to u. there is no peace and it is going to be the most frustrating and uncomfortable thing uv done up till now but remember no matter how low u get just hold it down cause the pain cant stop the time where as the time will surely stop the pain. and also the hotter the battle is the sweeter victory. i beg u to stay strong and keep in mind what awaits u at the end will be worth it. this thing that has robbed us of so many friends and much of our own lives, has to be over once and for all and not have us passing all our money to this dispicable murderer, and for all it has taken from us we owe it to them and ourselves to avenge them by walking out the other side of this with our heads held high and our wits in tact in order to tell this disturbing tale to all the youths who really dont want to go down the road we've been down, do they. and that way they can learn from our mistakes instead of making them themselves, n if u can get through to just one kid about to embark on a carreer in drug abuse and make him see sense through the error of your ways then that will be a step towards saving the world from this epidemic disease which seems to be taking the world by storm. i know that no matter how hard it gets as long as i dont give in to it my drug free future will always be secure as i know that the only thing that has been holding me back has been the gear as is the case for many of u im sure, n with the control of our own lives now handed back to us, with the added bonus of not taking it for granted any more, im sure that we can evetually be all we ever wanted to be n more. cause u know what they say "he who feels it, knows it" n the extent of what we've felt surely means that we'll have great knowledge too. n plese dont do what i used to do n reward yourself with a bag because ur doin so well, cause although it can seem like it will do no harm, it really does. at the end of the day we got 2 choices, we either stop now or we put it off till tomorrow, only problem is that cause its always today, tomorrow never comes. question is are u strong or are u weak? come on man, get a grip. seriously, u can do it. who needs it anyway with a big fat spliff in your mouth.lol. we gonna get clean and take the world by storm as its the dawn of a new day " the day of the man from out of the dark" he steps into the light and it all becomes apparant. now lead the way, to suffer so much torture and to still prevail can make leaders of men. one more thing, dont ever let anyone else try n bring u down, if they dont understand then thats there problem, u got enough on ur plate without having to deal with anyone else's ***edited by moderator*** ** inappropriate posting**. PEACE, LOVE, EMPATHY n GOOD LUCK.
(just another lonley smackhead?)
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I just wanted to reply to withdrawals duration and taking other drugs to help. First of all taking codomal is not going to help in the long run. It will make them much longer considering it is codeine right? I once came of of 20mg subutex in jail during a probation hold<29 days>. Not to mention a heavy smoker without cigarettes! I would of titrated my dose but I obviously had no prior warning. i also had many rules to follow with no comforts and no medications except for my stomach. Let me remind you that this was cold turkey from 20mg and anyone below 1 mg should thank their lucky stars they have that chance to withdraw from the mind numbing, sex drive killing, personality destroying subutex, at such a low dose. It is true that it does ramp up on the fourth and fifth day. However if you can make it past then it will slowly ramp down until around 30 days. After that you may have some paws side effects for a while but they are sporadic and mild. Like minor yawns eye watering and sneezing. But it does seem like once you have made it past 10 days it is smooth sailing from there. For me this was the case first of all because the worst was over and each day I felt a little better and I was used to the sweats/aches/etc by then. You start to get your feeling back also....has anyone ever noticed how good music is when your withdrawals are flowing? Oh yeah stay occupied with music you like and once you make it past that ten day mark start to exercise as much as you can. Anyone saying they exercise before then is full of it.! I have tried these herbals and other c**p and no matter how many time I have quit opiates, or which kind, the withdrawal is all the same. The funny thing is when my brother and I once quit oxycontin the same day and our withdrawals and symtoms were EXACTLY the same down to the T. Benzo's seem to help pretty good but you have to watch out very carefully because your addiction can switch to them very quickly. So maybe save them for the 4 th thru 6 th day of withdrawal and never use them longer than a week while withdrawing because you will then have to deal with them too and according to most people they are even heavier and can cause death from withdrawing. Clonadine seems to work a little and it is not a benzo. May help you sleep. That for me is my experience with coming of of subutex and all you people who are down below 2mg will have the same duration however it will not be as intense like someone taking 16mg to cold turkey. Just remember how much better of a person you will be not being on the opiate/synthetic!!!!! Think of this "if I got of 20mg in jail while not knowing if I was going to be revoked through Christmas and New Years, YOU can do it with a smaller dose in your own home like a breeze!
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Withdrawl is the best and worst of addiction. It can help you remember why you want to stop using and it can keep you from quitting. I have been on subutex or suboxone for a better part of 3 years. The first time I took suboxone I was on it for about 2 weeks and the only real withdrawl that I had was severe exhaustion and restless legs, not to say that it wasn't horrible, but no stomach or runny nose. I also couldn't keep my head up at work for a full week. I was off everything for 7 months and had to have back surgery, and I was right back into taking everything. I finally wised up and got back on subutex, which I have found does reduce my sex drive and find myself feeling sad more than when I am not on it. I have tried several times to stop the subutex but find myself getting back on it to keep me from wanting to take pain meds. I am reducing at about 1mg a week and find that it is a pretty comfortable level. That isn't to say once I get to the off time that I won't start having rls or ansomnia. This has been my life for longer than I can remember and I have quit just about every type of pain med there is to quit. Everyone wants there to be a magic answer to quitting or how long it will last and there really isn't one. My vast experience is after the first week you will feel much better and every week there after a little better. Try not to use other drugs to offset your withdrawl as most of us are here b/c we have problems with medications and one more drug just means another chance to become addicted to another pill. You have what it takes to get off the meds, you just have to dig deep and sometimes it seems you don't have a shovel. Support systems are a wonderful tool if you have someone you feel comfortable talking to. Please if you get off, don't let your mind trick you into a reward day or tell yourself that you can handle it now b/c that will only be setting yourself up for failure again. Life is so much better through clear eyes and clear minds. I wish everyone going through this one day of peace and I will pray for us all.
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I agree, you need to feel the pain coming off of the drugs, other wise there is no lesson learnt.Just be grateful there was even subutex to help you get off, otherwise it would be hell.I stopped taking Subutex after 3 months while previously I was doing Heroin for 1.5 years.



It was hard for the first week, but that will teach me of my stupidity.A lesson I will never forget.
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I weened myself from 8 mg down to 1/2 mg(took a long time). Yesterday was the first day I went without. I felt ill. I have to say the worst part is the restless legs and I woke up every 1-2 hours. I have now been awake since 4 am. I was on Subutex for over 3 years. My addiction was percocet (had back surgery). I pray to God to help me stay strong!
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