subutex withdrawal symptoms

it will get better i have just came off them too but for other reasons i used to be a heroin user but now clean for 6 years after being put on methadone first. you will feel weak and flu like symptons maybe for at least a month i had withdrawls for 4 months but thats becuse i used to take drugs. you will be fine. they use different names for the same drugs or ask for lofexadine. good luck everything will work out for you check the names of the tablets on line :-D

ask for Valium cause your getting anxious they do really i have been in the same place as you a few times but im clean now for seven years off methadone and heroin. coming off any drug prescribed or illegal is hard it will be rough but if i can do it any one can good luck

hello i have read a couple post i have been on subutex for 15 months  8mg 3 times a day but only used one to one a half a day.its  my 11 day off and i still have the runs but i feel alright just been hooked for so long does it get  better? i also wonder since i am 6 months pregnant will it hurt the baby stopping cold turkey

please pray for me i need it 

Hi,

I'm new to the site as well. I've read all your posts on this and my story is different. I started taking sub about 1 year ago. 1ml on a saturday for a buzz, would you believe i've never had an opiate addiction but I do now! 2 8mg tablets was the most I would have taken in a week but i'm down to 1 a week now! I take 1ml on a Monday 1ml on a wednesday 2ml on a friday and 4ml on a saturday to get a buzz! Now im' off it 2 days i've got cramps and i know i've got the sh**s coming and insomnia to. To aid the the insomnia I've armatriplan 25ml, ill take 2 of these a night to help me sleep. does any one know how long my sideeffects will last? I've never been a massive user, any idea guys and girls?

I am on subatex, in simple terms I view it as like an opiate and a small amount of speed. (receptor stimulator).   So, soon, when I come off it, (dropping by 0.4 at end) (I expect 'speed withdrawls) depression, no energy. My plan is exercise, its the only natural drug to repair and lots calcium. I will not be doing anything that involves conflict. I came of 80mls Methadone, first dose 8mg, after 48hrs, the upped to 24mg until Methadone cravings went. Dropped to 18mg, 2 week intervals, dropped to 8mg, and now am llooking at the final part. My prescriber is liberal and open minded, he backs what works. Previous Subatex, below 2mg it begins to hurt, withdraw ay 0.4. I will ask for sleeping tablets(temazepam and a small amount of valium, max of 5 days. I know it cant be done pain free, total motivation with follow on plan to be arranged. What I do not want is DRUG ADDICTION, IT SUCKS. 12 step has worked for me, one to one client centred counselling. I will post my progress experience, I; and you , to stay alive must share what its like. God bless

I used subatex and buprenororphine to get of Methadone, now 4 weeks on and I have a subatex addiction. I am glad to be of Methadone, but i will go for inpatient detox of the subatex, its is a drug, is a drug, is a drug. I suffer from addiction. It helped get of Methadone; but it has to go as well.

No mood altering medicines help me in the long run, that has proof beyond doubt. Its my experience.

Tapering can be done at any pace from 1-2mg per day to .25mg per month.  I always go for the Very slow taper since people usually need to be on this drug for a very long time. No need to rush off.

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my experience is it takes a helluva lot longer than a few days to get off subutex, and i just  went down from 1 mg to a half mg.  my advice is you CANNOT jump off at 1 mg without SEVERE withdrawals that last weeks (so far, that's as far as i've gotten so far) if not longer  i read on other forums it can take months up to a year.  withdrawing has changed my menstrual cycle and my scent (i used to smell sweet even after exercising in august and now i smell like a man construction worker after a 12 hour shift even after just getting out of the bath).  i smell AWFUL constantly and have low-grade fever.  the severe stuff like the jerks and total 24 hour insomnia lasted only a few days but the low grade fever, total listlessness, nausea, restlessness, irritability, menstrual problems, serious odor problems, and the involuntary tears are still going strong over a week in.  this stuff is serious.  i think it's a lot harder to get off than heroin was in the first place, to be honest.  i think they should rx a very weak opiate like tramadol for withdrawals from strong opiates rather than another strong opiate that just lasts longer.  it just means you stay high longer and legally. 

 

I can see that many of you are looking for some real definitive answers as to what to expect with the withdrawal process of subutex.  The absolute truth is that any way you cut it....whether you wean off from a few years of a high mg dose ( over 20 mg's) or even the 1mg folks out there: within 24 hours of your last jump off dose you are going to go through some real stuff...physically, emotionally, spiritually.  This withdrawal process takes about 30 days....most people don't want to hear this, or accept this, but this is the truth...and any remedies to speed this up or soften the blow isn't going to do much.  The first 4 days you will be on the floor.  You will feel all of your nerves stinging with a pain that will leave you speechless. You will be submerged into a deep despair and defeat that most people would not be able to go through. Every minute during these first 5 days is total defeat. Cold sweats.  You will have fatigue to the point where you will feel like Sumo wrestlers are sitting on every inch of your body.  It will feel like every action you do you are pushing through thick mud. But the most frightening part of these first few days is the depression.  If you think you have an idea of how low you think you're going to go, be prepared, because you will plummet into a darkness that is so scary, you will lose all hope, and pretty much the only thing you can do is pray.   I highly doubt one could even go to a job.  A struggle like no other.  There is no rest, you will be in so much pain that your only concern through this torture will be to move your wilted body into a more comfortable position for some relief...but you will never find that position because there is no way to get out of the pain.  If you can make it through those first 4 days, then you have a chance to make this change.  DON'T GIVE UP. Do NOT. Day 5 won't be much different, but that initial shock of agony to the body will start to taper off> What I mean is that...when you're high, you always think it won't be that bad.... and when you actually get there on the first 1-4 days, the realness of the withdrawal confronts you in a way that just levels you completely. And that's real.  You will not sleep at all and you will feel every hour through the nights, a very lonely and torturous process...wake up with so much body pain after tossing and turning and hurting so deeply physically and mentally all the nights.  It's torture.  I can NOT stress how difficult the first 5 days of this withdrawals is.  Day 6-12 is better...and by better I by no means want you to think you actually feel ok. I just mean you will be able to get up for the first time....not that you will be able to actually go anywhere, but you will be able to move because the shock of what is happening to you is now learned.  Most people around day 7 will think it''s almost over.... THIS IS WHEN YOU REALIZE how F'd you really are.  Most folks associate withdrawal with a likeness to Heroin withdrawal which is hard, but subsides after day 7.....on no folks...you are in for it. In a very sobering way....This is the point when only the strong will survive and get sober..  You have to really want to be sober to make it through the next 2 weeks....meaning week 2 and 3. You will start having Central Nervous System pain....Subutex binds to the receptors you normally have in your brain...but the more subutex you keep putting in your brain, it actually EXTRACTS more receptors to come out and beings to multiply the amount of receptors you have...this is so dangerous and is the cause of the deepest depression you face when coming off.  Subutex stores itself in your fat, your bones and Central Nervous System....can you imagine this stuff straining itself out of your body system?  OUCH.  Week 2 is a long, sad, hard painful journey of pain and total fatigue....you will think that it will never end, that you did so much serious damage to yourself that you will never be up and balanced and normal with energy again... do not believe these lies...this is just all of those now extracted receptors that are now so abundant in number without any subtext to bind to them..... instead of feeling that high and safety and comfort, you are feeling the low of all lows.  HOLD ON.  DO NOT GIVE UP.  IT WILL GET BETTER....  IT is around day 15 that you will start to experience some change.  It won't be easy, but you will have bouts of time where you have little pain...the fatigue doesn't budge at all, but you will get some hours of sleep and then hurt again.... day 15-23 you will barely be able to do much, total fatigue, off and on Central Nervous System pain, but some relief and hope starts to creep in....Tylenol PM will actually start giving you 4-5 hours of relief.  The depression is still there in a very real way, you will still feel so heavy and sad, that you will think you are going insane....JUST HOLD ON..... around day 26 some strength will begin to emerge, you will start feeling kind of proud of yourself....in fact, you will see that you WERE almost in another world....and you can now distinguish the different state of mind you were in....THIS IS PROGRESS.    To anyone who wants the truth about Subutex....Herion is a street drug that the government does not regulate....along with other drugs....they created Subutex and Suboxin to take that street business out of the hands of street dealers and put it in their own hands.  This drug is so powerful and cunning.  I can't believe our own government is doing this to people.  When I hear of people using sub to come of Heroin of other opiates I am so scared for them.... don't be fooled.... this is straight up a 30 day withdrawal....and then another month to re-group and level out.  YOU WILL suffer for the 30 days....you have to accept it and just do it...because it truly is worth it....when you come out on the other side, you actually see that you feel exactly the way you did when you were taking this stuff, you will be happy and free and strong, and you will be so happy you did it.......Don't give up...YOU CAN do this....it takes a long time and it moves at a snails pace.  It's not like every day you will feel better and better...not at all....it's just not like that...you will feel so bad every day, day after day from day 7-21....and THEN you will notice some improvement...... 

Where do I begin!? Okay... I have been addicted to some form of opiate or another for 6 years. I began with an "innocent" vicodin... to 2 ES Vic's.... to Perc's... 5's.. then 10's... then Oxycontin... 20's, 40's, 80's... Then pills started disappearing! Noone I knew had a 'script anymore.. That's when I heard about "DOG".... aka HEROIN.. When I was 16 the word HEROIN was a VERY bad word to my friends and I. Now... 75% of them are or have been addicted to it. It hit Cincinnati like a train. Rich kids.... doing dope. I went straight downhill... losing almost everything I owned. Anyway, let me get to my point. Subuxone.. and later Subutex.. saved my life. I went from almost NOTHING to having more than I ever had; all in about 3 years after the first 8 mg Sub I took... (well, I took half of it).



I was able to work, stay focused, and have sufficient energy on Subutex. I thought of it as a miracle. BUT! I was ALWAYS stressing about how many pills I had left... where my pill bottle was.... etc. Then I got locked up. I did a total of 15 days in jail. I was scared to death the first night.... just waiting for withdrawal symptoms... NONE appeared.. day 2,3,4,5 and 6... still NOTHING! Then the night of the 7th day.... it hit me... hard. My arms tingled and "crawled".. forcing me to move them.. even if I didn't want to. I WAS able to sleep, but only after hours at night of twitching until my body wore out. I don't care what anyone says... you DO sleep.. maybe only for 2 minutes at a time every 15 minutes.. but you sleep. I'm not saying it helps... I just think it's ridiculous when I read that some addict "didn't sleep for a week"... you THINK you didn't.. but you did.



Anyway... to my point. My worst symptoms have been from day 7 to 10.. on the 11th day I didn't sleep much and woke up with a strange hazy headache. It has been easier since then.... but... it is NOT over. I am on day 17... I am still sneezing, getting cold chills, and having some trouble sleeping. A valium here and there does help; being very careful not to get hooked on them too!



My fear is how long this is going to last; as are most of the fears I've read on here. The longest I've seen in 4 months! and the guy still says he doesn't feel well! I think that's in his head. Anyway.... I AM going to beat this. I can't rely on pills to live... Let me put it this way... if taking pills is the center of your life... If you wake up looking for your bottle.. or calling your dopeman... you might not know it... or you may deny it.. but you ARE an addict. You don't "choose" to become an addict... it slowly becomes the center of your life.



Don't let ANYONE tell you how "terrible" withdrawals are. MOST addicts exaggerate the symptoms as bad as they can.. saying they "CAN'T" function without the opiates... YOU CAN... it's not easy.. but it's not THAT hard either... compared to what you earn for quitting. Sure, I'm uncomfortable right now.. .and it's day 17.. but if I made it this far I can make it all the way! My fear is that I will never feel the "same" again.... I'm not talking about feeling high either.. I just want to feel "normal"... or like I was 12 again. Will this EVER happen? Is 30 days really "IT"?

I have recently stopped smoking pot completely( basically from the time i woke up, and any chance i would have in between work(i work 3 jobs and school). Now that i have stopped i have felt a new surge of mental awareness, one of the things im realizing now that ive been on about 4-8 mg of subutex a day for the past 2 years, is that i do NOT need this anymore! However at the same time, continuing to function at the level i have been use to at all of my jobs and school will be a difficult task, i can agree some people exxagerate the withdrawls, however some people (including myself) have had withdrawls that literally make you feel like your dying ( obviously thinking your dying does not help, but its a mental and physical battle). I feel as thought now that i have completely stopped smoking pot for 5 days, i now have the mental strength and awareness to make myself quit subutex(obviously everyone is different, everyone has a different level of mental and physical strength as well). I am only 28 hours off of subutex, and i con honestly say i feel amazing considering, my worst withdrawl sympton is my overactive sweating (which that was a problem for me when i was young anyway, i have high metabolism therefore i sweat a lot naturally, i realize this.) One thing that is helping me, and continuing to help me is just keeping my mind active, absorbing information, also realizing how strong I am mentally as opposed to beating myself up mentally for being in this situation. If you can realize what your weakness is and actively work to change that than I would say drug addiction or not you have something that 98% of people do NOT have. Unfortunate but true, I realize im only 28 hours into my detox, but i also know by this point with any other pill or drug ( methadone, heroin, ocycontin, roxi-contin and so on) that i would be vommiting and deathly sick at this point, so i can't help to think this drug, subutex or suboxone, is much easier than the other, use that to your mental advantage.

i don't wish to critisise anyone or their own experiance,but this is mine,after doing a gram or so of smack daily for around five years i tried a new wonder drug called subutex.wonder drug?? it was torture for the first few days then it reduced to feeling good but not sleeping at all.

i did a 6 week detox in total with the first few days being the worst by far to stopping the'subbies'

  i cut them down by dropping 50% every three days,as i wasn't sleeping anyway i thought i might as well get it over with.so from eight mg a day i did one 8mg every other day for 3 days if i felt ok i would on the fourth day drop to 4mg then after 3 days drop to 2mg etc

 i coped well until i dropped from 2mg to 0.4mg in the same fashion,i was fine until the third day sat at a freinds house i felt anxious,unsettled,uncomfortable and had to make my excuses and dart home for a 'top up'

   to be honest i think it was in my head and after i stopped totally my sleep pattern returned after around 6 months and i spent the next 6 years clean,completely clean and felt sorry for the one's i left behind

   i have relapsed now and got back on 'subbies' but it has been easier this time as my habit(and the quality of smack)has been lower around 1/2g per day.my sleep has been affected but not by much and i am now starting the same withdrawel plan from subutex as before

   i have just dropped from 12mg to 6mg and will keep you posted ;-)

HELLO,

I have just finished a subutex detox from an 18 year battle on heroin went into re-hab to come off methadone that i'd been drinking,not needing it anymore.Had a hard time coming off meth then went onto 4mg of subutex been on that just under a year and about 3 months ago i started reducing 0.4mg a fortnight,didnt really notice the drops apart from cold rushes,sweats but no yawning,thankgod!!

Do not rush this mentally prepare yourself for what your about to do,as i didnt and now i'm on my 4th day after breaking free from subutex,having severe back pain legs have finally stopped buzzing,the emotions and the way i see everyday life has changed how i interact with people feeling strange being around people,dont no how to be?dont no myself yet and this i think is the hardest battle to overcome...REALITY!!!

Good Luck To You All.

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Keep your head up it can be done. i am on day 20 and feel great all but the sneezing (this too shall pass). After day 15 it just got better. i think alot of it all in the mind. I just try to stay busy and positive. I work every day and just stay active, that keeps my mind off everything thats going on.

Today is day 1 for me. I got down to 1mg a day. (or about that maybe a little less). I did this last year off 2mg Suboxone & it was pure HELL for 10days. I have 2 children & my husband is deployed right now. I am alone in a strange state with no help except my 2 kids. I am wondering if this time will be any easier. I am 29hrs in & I have xtreme sweats. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have 2 chlonodine but dont want to take it yet as I am afraid this is not the worst of it. I remember last year it got worst around day 2 & 3. Day 5 was my bday so I got up, everyday after I was able to get up, just didnt sleep for a LONG time. got an hr here & there though.