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Your advise worked! After reading your post I immediately went to him and told him that I saw him humping wildly in the mud a few times and that he must tell me if his penis sometimes hurt, because I can give him some ointment if it does. I kept it casual and smiled while saying it. He took the bait and engaged in conversation. I was really surprised but then he started to over share and went into detail on what exactly he did and how amazing each action felt and all the new things he discovered. After all this time he just keeps on astonishing me with everything he comes up with. It is really concerning and I must fight to keep my pose because his like a little maniac. He must spend hours thinking about these things. Or perhaps I am totally wrong. Perhaps these ideas just come to him without any effort. On the outside he seems very balanced. He is popular and have a lot of friends, he plays first team rugby, he’s academics goes well. I just kept quiet the whole time and silently prayed thank-you-prayers for the fact he was sharing with me again and also because it wasn’t about stuff he does with other people.
I became a bit emotional and when he asked me what was wrong I used the opportunity to tell him that I am just so happy to see him happy again. I told him that I respect his choice on what he wants to share with me and what not but that he must please just come and tell me if anyone ever hurts him or try and do something that makes him feel uncomfortable. He said that I do not need to worry. Then I pushed my luck again and asked him about the grade 7 boy. He started laughing. It took me by surprise. He said that the boy was a softy and will never be able to hurt anybody. He says the boy shoots sperm, like his 15 year old friend from the holiday, and it is interesting seeing it happen. He says the boy says he likes masturbating with him because of all the weird ways he does it. He finds it funny. He also said that he touched the boy’s sperm and that it was so hot that it burnt his fingers and that it was so sticky that he could not get his fingers apart. Clearly there is nothing wrong with his imagination.

It is really not easy to keep quiet but I made a deal with him and he seems to stick with it, so I must stick to my part.

Thank you for the tip, it is the first time he shares anything with me in weeks!

About the family discussions, I will think about how to introduce it. Perhaps we can start by each just saying how we have experienced the therapy sessions of the past few months. Perhaps I can share first and see if it triggers them to also be honest. We sometimes read and discuss the Bible together before bedtime. It will be easiest to introduce this just after that.

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Glad you were able to get your son to open up to you again deep down the little guy probably enjoys sharing his experiences and now that talking about things went well he hopefully won't be reluctant to tell you things.

It probably would be a good idea to check that he is not rubbing himself raw from all the masturbating he does.
You probably will never be able to control what he does with other boys so hopefully he will continue to let you know what he does and with who.

He sounds like a truly happy boy that just happens to have developed a very strong curiosity very young.
He is probably doing more than what he is telling you about with the other boys but it would be something they both are comfortable with.

With him happy and talking again that is probably the best way that you can monitor what he is doing,

At least that way you can keep him talking it must be difficult to listen too but it is much better than not knowing.
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Last week and this weekend was good. My in-laws were visiting us. Thursday evening I fetched my parents too and we all had a barbecue. The boys entertained us with their Judo moves and my younger one insisted on wearing his white Judo clothes despite our please that he is going to get them dirty.

Saturday morning me, my wife and in-laws had the privilege to watch both the rugby games of the boys. It is not always that they both have a home game and this time it worked out well. My eldest one nearly scored a try. My father-heart was so longing for this because I know what it will do for his self-esteem. Especially because his brother scored three tries again. Sports just come so natural for my youngest one.
While watching the games my father-in-law spoke to me about my boys. We have never discussed the challenges that we have with my in-laws but he’s an intelligent man and he picked up some pieces of the puzzle. He was very open with me about his own sexuality and the challenges he himself had as a kid. There is definitely comparisons between their childhoods and the way they experience their sexuality. It was an extremely insightful conversation and it had a huge impact on my emotional state. Just to now that there is one person who really understands my boy made my heart so much lighter! And off-course, to see how he has turned out to be a good, balanced grown-up, gives me a lot of hope.

Saturday afternoon I had some peace and quiet while the rest of the family went shopping. I had a chance to prepare for this morning’s Sunday-school. Saturday evening we said goodbye to my in-laws at the airport. We had dinner there and watched the planes.

This morning we went to church and the minister spoke about sharing all your troubles with God. Just letting it out. I experienced it. I just breathed out and let it go.

Tomorrow is a new day and a new week. I am taking it step by step. For now, I will listen when ever my boy shares something with me without reacting to much. I pray for strength. Hearing about him masturbating with other kids is one thing but I really do not know how I will handle information about him doing things with other people, especially if the age gap is big.

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Hi Christiaan

Great that you had a good week and weekend with the boys and the family visiting.
Hearing that other kids did similar things when they were younger would help to put everything into perspective for sure.

From my experience with my friends and having similar curiosities as your son he is doing what many other boys do or have done.

Your oldest boy will hopefully make that try the next time even with your boys getting along well and sharing the things they do there is most likely a bit of a competitive element between them.

The number of boys that regularly take part in same sex experimentation when they are growing up is no doubt pretty high.
Most do go on to lead very normal lives and honestly if they are gay or not all that matters is that they are happy and are comfortable with who they are.

When your son shares things with you it must be hard to not show your feelings but hopefully he will be able to limit the things he does with boys around his age.
I would say that there is a good chance he does not limit what he does to masturbating together but as long as what they do is mutual and in the age group you both agreed on no harm done.

Not saying he is doing these things but with his curiosity and the way he seems to be so open about everything with his friends there is probably a good possibility of it.

As far as what he does as long as he can limit it too his age group then that is probably the best possible outcome.

Hopefully he has learnt that if he does things with older kids that is when he is putting himself at risk and that is when it will require intervention from you and your wife.
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Thank you for your reply. I appreciate your support a lot.
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At about six o clock tonight, I walked into my room and I saw my son through the window in our back yard. He was wearing shorts and a t-shirt. What caught my eye, was the funny way he walked. He walked wide-legged and made funny swinging-bouncy moves and from time to time do short, quick sprints and shaking his body every time his stops. Then I saw a string hanging from one leg of his pants and on the end of it a tennis ball was dangling. From time to time he would push the elastic of his shorts forward and fidget with his hand in his pants - looking as if he is adjusting something and then he would start doing his funny moves again. He kept at this for quite a long time and then disappeared around the corner of the house and did not return again.

I had the most interesting emotions while watching him. I will try and share them as best I can. First I will start with the feeling of immense love. I was overwhelmed by my love for him and I became quite emotional. The word definitive also came to my mind. I hope I have the right translation because English is not my home language. It is as if this act defines my son. It summarize so many of his characteristics, like curiosity, his need for exploration, excitement and fun, mischief, energy, always ready or first to try out something new, little weirdness or eccentricity and even his feel for mechanics. I have not shared this yet, but he has built a masturbatory device for himself with an electric motor from one of his toy cars. Although I blush sharing this I must admit that it is quite ingenious.
I was also very aware of how small, well built, beautiful (and oozing with sexuality) he is. His body is extremely well toned and at the end of the summer he has a bronze tan. Then he also have a charismatic personality. I can easily see how someone can take advantage of him. It really scares me.
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I am extremely startled at the moment. I wanted to post this as soon as I got to work this morning but I only got time now. I am sure I am just paranoid and that it is not such a big deal. But I am just rattled and unsure what to do.
This morning I woke up at about 5 and went to the toilet. I heard something in my youngest one’s room. When I looked, I saw him on his knees next to his bed, busy with himself.
That, in itself did not bothered me to much. I have seen him done weird things at weird times before but at 6:30, when I went to tell him to get dressed for school, he was at it again, humping his cousin vigorously. I found him a bit later in the bathroom using his electric toothbrush on his penis. When I went to call him, so that I could take him and his brother to school, I found him with his school shorts on his knees, in front of his cupboard. In the car, on our way to school, his hand were in his pants the whole time.
Just take last night also into account. So, for all I know, he could have been at it all night.
I haven’t seen him so preoccupied since last year. Something must have triggered it again. I have been wrecking my brain to think of what ever could have possibly get him to this point again. The previous times this happened it was usually when he found something new and, if you remember, also when he was angry with me but this looks like something different.
At this stage I think I am just going to confront him when I get home tonight and ask him directly what’s going on. I don’t know if it’s going to be the right thing but I don’t think I can just leave it. I don’t know. I am really not sure. I will let you know tonight what I did and what the outcome was. There is always something! The moment I begin to relax there is just another thing!
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Wow he had a busy morning.
How is his cousin reacting too the advances from your son?
Sounds like you might have to consider talking to him about why he is doing it so much.
Maybe doing what you did before when you asked him if he is getting sore down there that might work to get him talking again.
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Okay, last night didn't exactly went the way I planned. I only got home at about 19:00 and didn't have time for a long conversation with my son. Both my boys were busy with home work at that stage. The older one watched some TV afterwords but my youngest one showered and then came and said goodnight. It wasn't even 8:00 yet. He asked me if I could come and rub his back for a while. I made a joke about him putting some pants on because he knows I don't get into bed with him if he is naked (I think I have mentioned it before - he always sleeps naked.) but he didn't even smiled or reacted in any way. I could see that he was extremely tired. When I got to his room he was already asleep. I went and sat next to him and rubbed his back for a while. Then he mumbled: "I have a new record."
I went and ask my wife if he had a sports match or something that I didn't know about and if she knows about something that he made a new record for. It may sound as if I am bragging now but we are use to him getting medals and breaking records. She didn't know about any.
So, this morning I, when I went and wake him up, I asked him about it. He was immediately wide awake and his eyes were full of excitement. "I have a new orgasm record!" He said. "I had 27 orgasms from the time I got home on Monday until yesterday when I got home! My previous record was 17."
Okay, to be honest with you, I did not expect that. I had some prepared speeches for a few other answers but not for this one! I think I said "wow", I'm not sure.
I don't know if 27 orgasms are possible. He is still only 9 and I know he can ad a lot of color to many of the stories he tells. But I do believe him that it was most probably a lot! His previous record was apparently made some time at the beginning of the year, so it seems as if this is not a regular attempt. I can't help but feel a bit relieved. I suppose there are many reasons to be concerned about it but to be honest, I would rather have him having contests with himself at this stage than with others. At this stage, anything he shares with me that do not involve other people is first prize in my book and anything he shares that involves others, that fall into the age group we agreed on, is second prize. Him having a contest with himself, is in this circumstances good news! I can breath again!

To the guest that replied yesterday. It is astounding to me that he doesn't actually play himself totally raw. I have given ointment to him a while back and I see that the contents become less.
You also asked about his cousin. I can't exactly remember. Just refresh my mind again please.
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I couldn't help smiling tonight when I got home. It is the second day in a row that my youngest one went to bed before 20:00. I know that he had rugby practice today and is most probably tired because of that but usually it does not tire him out that much. I can't help but think that he is just still spent because of his conquest. Sorry for joking about it but I find it funny and wish I could have said to him: "I could have told you so."
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Kinda of good to be able to joke about things after the stress of the past few months.
He might take a few days to recover from his marathon session.

Just wondering has his doctor ever tested your boy's testosterone level?
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I am almost 100% sure we have never had it tested. I don't think it was one of the tests they did when he was younger.

I suppose I have never really thought of boys having testosterone because their testicles have not developed yet. I wonder if I should take him to a pediatrician. I haven't had any of my boys to a pediatrician in a long time. I just take them to my GP because it is not that expensive.

Do you perhaps have some information on boys and testosterone? He is very far from puberty. He is only 9 and he's even lagging behind his friends. He is very small. One would easily mistake him for 7.
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I was just wondering if that was something that they might have considered.
Haven't found any information on it other than what is related to delayed or early puberty.
Was just wondering if something like that could possibly be associated with some of his behaviors.
With being very small and lagging behind in his development not likely an issue but maybe something worth talking to your doctor about if there was a chance something like that could influence some of his behaviors.
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It makes sense. I think I will ask the pediatrician.

Saturday morning my wife asked my youngest one if he wanted his brother's jeans because he has outgrown them. She just did it out of routine because he never wears jeans - the material irritates him. To our surprise, he said hes and right there an then stripped down his shorts to try on the jeans. I stopped him and told him that I do not think that jeans will work without underpants, because the material is hard. He actually went and fetched some briefs but after dressing he immediately complained about how it felt and took it off. He's brother made a remark that it looked really cool on him but he took them off, anyway. No surprise there. But then he took his briefs off and put the jeans back on again. For the rest of the day he wore them. Yesterday morning he put them back on a again and wore them for the whole day! Perhaps his brother's remark worked and he kept it on despite the fact that it irritates him or perhaps his skin is becoming less irritable. I don't know, it is just interesting.

Although my youngest one's birthday is more than two months away he has started to plan it in detail. According to him a boy's 10'th birthday is one of the most important birthdays in one's life but he says that every year. I actually do feel a bit emotional thinking about it. I think I associate under 10 with small boys but above 10... I can't believe his 10'th birthday is coming up! Next year my eldest one is going to high school - that's just scary!
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I would think with the regular workouts he gives himself and with how aggressive he can be most likely his little guy wouldn't be bothered by the friction of the jeans on his bare skin.
Sounds like he is planning for his tenth birthday to be really special nice that he is planning for it already.
He will probably miss his brother a great deal if his brother has to go to a different school next year.
I would imagine his brother kinda looks out for him at school and maybe keeps and eye what he is doing when he can.

Time sure does fly by quickly for sure in no time it will be your youngest getting ready to move onto high school.
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