9 Year old boy took Maximor Advance. He's having constant erection, but no pain or sickness

I had a good laugh now when I read your post about his "little guy wouldn't be bothered by friction of the jeans on his bare skin". I think you are quite right! A little friction from jeans is nothing in comparison to what that little guy has to endure!

Me and my wife had a discussion about our youngest one becoming more self-conscious and how that has an impact on his self-control.
I have shared with you already about his hypo- and hypersensitivity. When he was younger, perhaps up to about 6, it was a constant battle to keep him in his clothes because it often irritated him. He use to undress himself, whether it was a private or public place. On many occasions we just left what ever we were doing. If we were in the shop we would leave our trolley right there and just go. It wasn’t just the undressing. At that stage he was so irritated that he was crying and trowing a fit. It was very embarrassing.
He also humped or played with himself where ever he wanted to. It was a constant battle. Like a lot of parents we also had some private and discrete hand-signs for when he did it in public but it only really started to work as he got older. Eventually he stopped doing it or removed himself from the conversation when he saw us giving him the sign. As I have said before, the play-school teachers had a wonderful way with him and by the time he went to primary school he was in control enough to not do these things openly. I say openly because you would remember the incident in grade 1 where the teacher caught him in the classes reading corner during recess and also last year when he fraud that letter about him having a bladder problem. But, although he lied, he did it so that he could go and do it at a private place.
By the time we fetched him from school, his senses were overloaded. As soon as he was in the car he would take off his shirt and shoes. At the beginning even his pants. Come to think of it, he has actually done that this year once. He was so irritated that day! He crawled down behind the car seat and sat on the floor, crying. When I got home I went and fetch a blanket (the softest one in the house), covered him with it and carried him into the house. That use to happen a lot when he was younger.
At home we were more relaxed about him being naked and also his masturbation activities, because, usually we just didn’t have the energy for more battles. Nobody were there to judge us, so we just let him carry on unless it was really explicit or disturbing in some way. He usually just rocked himself on the couches arm-rest or lay on his tummy and humped the floor while watching TV but sometimes, especially the days when his senses were really overloaded it looked as it he was hurting himself, thumping hard into the floor or the side of the couch or rubbing, pulling or slapping his penis very aggressively. Sometimes we would carry him to his room but that made him loose total control. He would scream and hit us and throw us with things. Mostly he just ran back to the TV room but sometimes he would stay in his room and smash things and also hump violently against hard objects or masturbate very aggressively with his hands.
When he was younger we often canceled dinner appointments with friends or left early.
His brother was sometimes able to calm him down. When he is like this, you can’t touch him. It almost seems painful if some one touches him. But some times he let his brother near him. Especially in the car when I pick them up from school. My eldest son has this way that he talks with him while holding his hand and rubbing between his fingers. It doesn’t work if me and my wife try it but occasionally it works if my eldest son does it. Sometimes, while my youngest one goes wild and throw things and scream, my eldest one would go and sit on the floor. I know he sometimes say softly “look at me” all the time. Sometimes it calms him down, even to a point where he would come and sit with him on the floor en let him rub between his fingers.
But most of this is in the past now. He rarely becomes so worked up anymore. Part of it, we think, is because of self-knowledge and self-awareness. He knows now when he starts to feel overloaded and he is aware of the fact that people, especially his friends, look strangely at him when he freaks out. He tells us when he thinks a situation is going to trigger him and we learn to listen.
When it comes specifically to masturbation, my wife said that he stopped playing with himself it in front of her more than a year ago and when she walk in on him he would cover himself.
He still plays with his hand in his pants in front of me and his brother, even up to the point of orgasm but he never does it naked anymore. I can’t remember for how long now. It could even be more than two years. He still often does it in the back yard when fully naked but not if any of us is with him.
One can argue that he is learning what is socially acceptable behavior but I don’t think so. He has known that for many years but his emotions just made him not care. I would rather say it is because he is actually becoming shy. He has started to care what others think and say about him and that feeling is so strong that it sometimes overrules his sensory overload as well as his desires.
I suppose it doesn’t really matter what drives him to act in a more socially acceptable way. The fact that he does makes his and our lives much easier.

That is a positive change for sure glad to hear things are going so much better.
He could have been getting made fun of for some of his behaviors at school or away from home and like you said he could be a bit shy and more self-conscious about himself and what he is doing along with who sees him.

Like you said why really doesn't matter he has just become more aware of who sees him and what he is doing.
Hopefully he is happy and doing well and that is the most important thing.

I walked in on my eldest son. It was really embarrassing for both of us! I was on my way to bed and his light was still on. The door was half open. I just popped my head in to say goodnight to him. The poor boy was totally naked in the middle of his room, so there was no way for me to pretend that I didn’t know what he was doing. I just said: “Oh sorry!” And then just walked away as fast as possible. I went back after brushing my teeth and apologize. We were both very awkward. He smiled sheepishly and said that he should have closed the door.
I think me and my eldest son have a healthy relationship. We can talk about anything and we are not shy to be naked in front of one another but he also knows what is private. It is just such a contrast in comparison with my young one.
What is interesting is that my eldest one actually told his brother that I walked in on him. Despite the fact that he must have known that his brother wood mock him about it - which he does! He also told him about a girl, in his grade, that he likes. So know he mocks him and says his thinking of her while doing it.

My wife says our young one has started to do a few weird things again. She doesn’t know what he’s up to but apparently he’s been taking his underwear, speedos and cycling-pants to school. Not everyday but two or three times per week. She wants me to ask him why. I know I have to but I want to wait for the right moment. It’s going well between me and him now and I never want to go back to where he stopped sharing with me.

He probably wouldn't have been too concerned about being seen both your boys seem to be pretty open about masturbation and are comfortable with you knowing.
He was in his room so a lesson learned about taking time to close the door.
His brother will no doubt have a great time with making fun of him.

Hard to say what your youngest is up to with bringing the extra things to school.
Similar behaviors like when he was at his soccer game and going to visit that neighbor awhile back.

Hopefully it goes well when you talk to him about it.
Is he bringing the items home with him everyday that he takes them to school.
Is he playing any after school sports or doing activities after school or going anywhere after school?

Yes, he brings it back everyday. He's at the school's aftercare but when it's time for practice he goes to the school's sports fields. Me and my wife takes turns to pick him up - depending on who finish first at work.
What is interesting is that my wife says that some of the pants are usually dirty, as if he was playing with them in the dirt or even mud or something. Some of it was also wet, as if he was swimming in it.
The school does have a swimming pool. I'm sure he will swim in his cycling pants and speedos in front of the other kids but not his briefs.
I don't know. I know it sounds silly that I don't just ask him. Some how I am afraid to so.

It's hard to say what is doing that is getting his clothes dirty any chance that is what he is wearing when he is playing soccer.
He should be ok with telling you about his wet clothes with his school having a pool there is a good chance he is swimming.
It is a difficult subject to bring up and he could be a bit cautious about telling what he is doing understandable your worried about asking him.
Maybe just asking how he is doing with sticking to the agreement that you have will get him talking.
There is a chance that you could hear about something you would rather not know about but probably would be best to know what he is doing just in case it is outside of the agreement you have with him.

I picked the boys up from after care today and it gave me a gap. When we arrived at home, I asked them if they have anything to wash and I went and casually opened my youngest one’s bag. There were a lot of clothes in his bag - t-shirts, shorts and briefs. One pair of briefs were wet. I casually asked: “And all these clothes?” He became shy. I seldom see him shy. He told me about the old scouts grounds next to the school that is now used as a storing area for the tractors and tools of the school. I know about this area. Apparently he loves exploring the place and he often goes there between sport practices. Sometimes he plays dress-up while he is there. There is a tap and he uses the water stream to masturbate with. He was anxious while telling me this and said a couple of times that no one ever comes there and he always make sure no body is there before he does anything private. He begged me to let him go on doing it. I asked him why some of his underwear was dirty. He took a toy tractor out of his bag and said that he sometimes play in his underwear at the scouts grounds. He said that, next time I pick him up from school, he will show me the place and I will see for myself that no one can see him there.

That was a wonderful result sounds like even with being a bit shy about it he told you everything he is doing and since he wants to show you where he is going he must still have that trust between you both.
Sounds like he is being careful about if he is seen.
Did he mention if he always goes alone or if he brings a friend with him?

I agree with you. He was very open with me and I also think it shows trust. He did not say anything about taking some one with. If I get the right chance, I will ask him.
In the mean time, he actually went a step further with his trust. This morning, while I was working in the garden, he came to me and said that he wanted to show me something. He took me to the big bush in our front garden, the one I have posted about last year, the one that he use to masturbate in while looking at the people passing by. It was one of the things me and the psychologist asked him to stop with, which he did.
The bush is much thicker now and you cannot see into it at all. He showed me a tunnel that he made in one side of the bush. He crawled in and asked me to follow him. Inside was a really neat den that he created. You crawl into an open space around the main stem. He has an old steel drawer there that I used to use in the garage. There are two holes or niches cut into the side of the den and three sets of planks, almost like wide steps going up, that are nailed to some thicker branches. It is really neat and I can understand that any kid would love playing there. There are a bucket, a half bottle of cooking oil, a dirty bar of soap, a 5 liter can of water and empty plastic and glass cool-drink bottles (some of them have a bit of cooking oil in them and the necks of some others had margarine in them) neatly in the two niches. Inside the steel drawers are garden scissors, a plastic cup, a mangled up block of margarine, string, a screwdriver, hand cream, some toys, stationary, shorts, underwear, a t-shirt and a belt. There is an extremely dirty towel (that his mother is going to be furious about if she sees it) hanging over one of the branches. There are a few ropes hanging over a branch in such a way that I am sure that that is the place specifically for ropes. He also made a laundry thread. There is a very greasy pair of underwear and a equally greasy plastic shopping bag, with two holes at the bottom, pinned to it. I think he rubbed margarine or oil in it or something and then tried to wash it.
I didn’t ask any questions about the stuff that he has there because I really do not want to know and my imagination had already played havoc with me.
He was anxious while showing me. I told him that I think it is extremely cool and that I think that he did an extremely neat job. He beamed with pride.
“Is it okay that I play here again?” he asked and added, “I don’t always keep my clothes on.” I just could not help but laugh. As if I would have believed him if he said he did!
I checked the whole bush and could not find a place where anyone can see in or out of it, so I told him that it is okay. But I did get a bit of a word in. I told him that it is okay with me that he does things to himself that feel good but he must please be careful not to hurt himself in the process. I told him to please come and ask me first if he is unsure if something can hurt him.
He played there for the rest of the day while I was working in the garden. I could here him sawing something and hammering, so I suppose he built something. I think he hit his thumb a few times because I heard him cry out.

It's great that he is being so open with you again.
I think him asking to play in that bush again and you giving him permission will go along way into restoring complete trust in you.
Boys making forts and hideouts is completely normal and a great deal of fun his just happen to be clothing free at times.
I think most of us had forts, hideouts and skinny dipping swimming holes when we were kids.
I would think you would have made his day by letting him play in there again and there are benefits to it being in your own yard.
He no doubt had a great time playing in there all day doing the things he likes.

Saturday, when my son showed me his den, I saw something that is a bit of a concern to me. I didn’t mention it because I was a bit shy to talk about it but my concern is overruling my shyness now.
He made himself a device that is in the form of briefs. It is made of two triangular shape sheets of plastic. I think he cut it out of a 5liter ice cream holder. The three corners of the triangles are connected with elastic. On the outside of the one triangle is an electric motor from one of his toy cars and on the inside of the other triangle is a cylindrical piece of Lego. It is one of the pillars of a Lego house we bought him. Its got a flat little foot and he used it to fasten it to the inside of the other triangle. I would say it is about 1cm in diameter and 8cm long. I don’t know if my description makes sense but in any case, he wears this like you would wear briefs. The electrical motor gives off a vibration and he says the Lego piece goes up his bum.
I am not so naive anymore that I do not know that some people put things up their rectum as a form of pleasure, my concern is just that is he not to young to do something like that? Can’t it hurt him? That is one of the reasons why I told him to come and ask me if he is unsure that something can hurt him. My first thought was also, who taught him this?
I have googled this. Unfortunately the results are mainly things that I do not want to expose myself to. I did however found threads where people said that this is something they have done since a very young age. Some of them didn’t even connected it to masturbation. They started doing it years before they started to masturbate.
Do any of you have knowledge about this and do you think it is something that I need to talk to him about? If I do, what do I say to him? I think I have been very naive in the past and have rushed into things with my youngest one. Nowadays I really try to think everything through and be very open-minded before I tackle anything. This is something I have started to do in life in general - one good thing that my child’s challenges has taught me.

Hi Christiaan

That no doubt explains why he has the cooking oil and margarine in his fort.
I don't know anything about anal stimulation but I would think using a lego toy for it would be very risky and could possible hurt him margarine and cooking oil for lube that has been left outside in the heat could also cause health issues I would think.

I guess with the internet and a boys natural curiosity he could have learned about this on his own.
There is also the chance that he has been introduced to it by someone else.
I have no knowledge of this kind of behavior but any thing I learned about the boys being boys kinda thing i was showed from other boys.
Him doing this is just among the things that he does to pleasure himself but what he uses and the lube might be an issue.

Talking to him about it based on the possible health issues might be the easiest way to find out more about it if you decide to talk to him.
You could just try to causally ask who showed him this or how he found out about it.
With you telling him about coming to you if there is something that could hurt him that might be the best way to approach it if you decide to.

The past few weeks have been a bit of a roller coaster. Lets start with some of the positive stuff again. My son has started to count down the days to his birthday on 29 July. He’s very excited about it. It’s winter this time of the year where we stay, so we must always be careful if we plan something for outdoors - it can easily rain. He wants to go Bass-fishing despite it all. Our winters does not get extremely cold, so it is possible. I have phoned the farm where the dam is and they have a restaurant, so if it rains, we can go there.

I got some courage about two week ago and spoke to my son about the margarine and oil. He said that he humps into the bottles and does not insert it into himself. He said that he has been doing it since he was very small, starting with the shampoo bottle while he showers. He pushes the air out and then let it suck his penis in and let it dangle between his legs. It sounds like normal, innocent boy-fun, so I don’t think I have to worry about it.
He says he does insert his fingers into himself and has been doing so since he was very young but the only other object that he has ever inserted into himself is the Lego piece.
I asked him directly if someone else taught him to do it but he said that he has never seen anybody else doing it. It’s just something that he likes doing.
I bought him a big bottle of hand cream and asked him to rather use that. I hope it’s okay, I don’t really know.
Then I found a pair of girl-panties in his den and I didn’t want to ask him about it because I didn’t want him to think that I am snooping around.

About a week ago, I was really stressed out because of work. I had a meeting the following morning and had to prepare for it. The dining-room table was full of heaps of papers and I was trying to get everything in order when a little face popped into the doorway. He made me sit on a chair and got onto my lap, facing me, a knee on either side of my hips. His face was staring into mine. I knew what this was and my emotions were a mixture of I-don’t-have-time-for-this-now and extreme fear of what he was going to tell me. You must understand that it has been months since he has last trusted me with anything except a bit of his masturbation habits. We all expected that he has been busy with a bit more extreme things but I have really hoped that my suspicions were wrong.

I am going to try and stay true to what he said, as well as the order in which he said it. Although the information that I give you this way is going to be more difficult to follow, I hope that you would be able to experience more than just facts. I want to try and convey something of him still-being-a-child and the innocence and playfulness that is so well defined in a child. Although these acts are not typical of a child, I hold on to the fact that they are childish. I don’t know if that makes sense to you but to me it does.

He started with: “Do you remember …”, and he said a name of a boy. I remember this boy. He is in grade 2 now. It is the boy that my son taught humping-the-air-in-his-underwear last year.
He then reminded me of the old scouts grounds.
The grade 2 boy is with him in after care and he started taking him there before or after sport practices. They play on the tractors and climb trough open windows. They also love playing marbles there.
He also showed him how to use the tap on himself.
They would sometimes play hide and seek. The one that hides needs to reach an orgasm before the other one finds him. If he doesn’t, he needs to walk naked from one side to the other side of the scouts grounds but if the one that hides reaches two orgasms before he is found, the other one needs to do it..
Sometimes they play a game where they have to put the boy’s briefs over their faces and then find the other one without seeing where they go.
There is an area of dense bushes where they sometimes play naked. They break away the undergrowth and make tunnels an rooms under the bushes. They take turns masturbating while the other one tickles the one masturbating, with a branch of leaves. They play horse-horse. The boy in the briefs is the horse. The rider wedgie the horse and run after the horse steering him with the briefs. They take turns masturbating in the boy’s briefs while the other one wedgie the one that masturbates.
They also sometimes takes turns to tie a knot around the other one’s foreskin and lead one another like this with a piece of string. They have a game called bum racing where they hop on their bums.
He told me all of this in one go, got off my lap and ran out of the room before I had time to say anything.

I really didn’t have time to try and process what he has told me, so I just started organizing things for the meeting again.
Then he came back in again. He made me sit on the chair again, got onto my lap again, exactly the same as the first time.
Then he started telling me about a grade 6 girl. They also know one another from after care and often talk to one another. At the end of last year they talked about her menstruation and he asked her to show him how she inserts her tampon. She said yes but only if he showed her his penis. Apparently this became a thing. She would take him with to show him how she inserts her tampon but every time he had to show her his penis. He thinks a girl’s vagina is boring. There’s not much to see. It is cool that they could stick something up it. It’s like a secret hiding place. Nobody even knows that the tampon is there. If he had one he would have hidden stuff there.
At the beginning of this year he told her that he masturbates and then she said that she also does it. He was very surprised to learn that girls could also do it. He wanted to know how girls do it and he convinced her to show him but he also had to show her how he did it.
He then told me with wide eyes that her vagina gets slimy when she does it. He wanted to know why. She also cries. She does not really cry. It only sounds like it. He doesn’t like it because it sounds as if she gets hurt and he is afraid that someone would hear her and see them.
Between sports practices they also sometimes go to the old scouts grounds and walk around and rub themselves against things. She also likes humping. There is a pipe that they like using. If he starts humping things she also does it.
They also play games. She likes playing things like school-school and fashion show. When they play school-school they swap school uniforms. He would dress up in her panties, skirt and white shirt and she would dress up in his school shorts and white shirt. Her clothes is to big for him.
He takes briefs with for her to wear. Last year she didn’t believe him that he does not wear underwear and she would stick her hand up the leg of his school shorts, everyday, to see if he is lying.
Sometimes they take some of their clothes with and play fashion show. He likes it when she wears his speedos and cycling pants. He says she also says it feels nice.
One day she brought a g-string. He explained to me why girls would wear something like that so that their panty-line would not show. They dared one another. He wore the g-string from first to second break and she went without anything under her skirt for the same time. He says it wasn’t cool because the g-string was to big for him and kept on falling off.
She does dancing and he loves masturbating in her leotard, while she wedgie him. He also masturbates in her panties while she wedgie him.
Sometimes they also play the games he and the other boy plays.
She asked him to bring his pajamas so that they could have a pajama fashion show. Because he does not have pajamas he took his brother’s. He loved her pajama shorts. According to him it is the softest material he has ever felt and if we buy him pajamas like that he would consider it to start wearing pajamas again.
Then he jumped of my lap and ran out of the room again.
I think I just sat there. I just could not focus on my work again.

Then he came back for a third time, and stood in front of me. He was highly excited! His was squashing himself in the palm of his hand at a fast pace, though his pants.
She sometimes showers after her practices. They have sneaked into the boy’s and girl’s bathrooms a few times and showered together but they became to afraid that they would get caught. Once they took a bucket, with water, at the scouts grounds and wash one another. She finds it very funny that his foreskin can retract and that he has to wash it.
They also like lying naked in the son.
One day, while they were playing school-school she said that she is his teacher and he is a boy in her class. He was naughty and she scolded him. Then she said: “Take off your clothes! “ It was scary for him him and he didn’t want to do it. She shouted at him and then he did it. When he was naked she said: “Now play with your penis! “ It was weird for him. He thinks he was feeling shy. She kept on shouting at him until he started doing it. She stood there, in his clothes and watched him until he was finished. It was weird and scary. Now he masturbates while thinking about it and he wants her to do it again.
He’s body jerked with spasms at least three times while he was telling me this. He ran out again but almost immediately came back in again. “We sometimes masturbate each other”, he said and then ran out again.

I have decided not to say anything about it at this stage. I will take my time thinking about it. I have not even told my wife yet. He has obviously held this back for a long time and I am not going to drive him away from me again. If there are some of you out there that want to give me some insight or ideas, you are very welcome but don’t judge me! You have NO idea what it is like to try and raise this son of me! I honestly have NO idea what to do.

It's been a good week. It is school holidays now.
I have had a couple of good conversations/discussions with my boys. I'm not really sure how it happened but my youngest one included his brother a couple of times and I was surprised by some of my eldest one's insights as well as the way my youngest one received his brother's advice. They have even started discussing these matters without me. My eldest one shares these discussions with me and through him I now have a way to get some of my advice to my youngest one through his brother. I think he listens more to his brother than to me.
My main concern about his relationships with the boy and the girl, that he told me about, is the possibility of manipulation. This girl obviously manipulates my boy but I am afraid that my son is manipulating the grade 2 boy. This has been the main topic of our discussions. As I have said before, I am really surprised by my eldest one's insight and how he explain this to his brother in a understandable way.