I have read through all of these pages of posts and still can't find anyone that has something similar to me. I can not eat the color green! I know it is crazy. It started with Romain lettuce at the end of June and then went to spinach, green beans, celery.
I can tell instantly as soon as that evil green thing hits my stomach. It feels like someone has dropped a bolder down into my stomach and the gurgeling starts. Within 15 minutes I am bent over some object (usually a stool) putting pressure on my stomach and crying over the intense pain. Exactly 2 hours from the consumption of the evil green thing and the entire time feeling like their is an express freight train working it way though my GI track, I have diarrhea. This continues until all of the food from my system is emptied out. Usually about 24 hours, during which I only drink water or a little gateraid to get some electrolytes.
I am constantly burping these very unfullfilling burps and have more frequent gas. I went to my family doctor and they ran blood tests and I even had to turn in a stool sample. With the sudden onset of the symptoms and the rapidly increasing severity, my doctor suspected a parasite or bacteria that I could have picked up. I was on board with that. Lets annihilate that little green monster in me! My test results can back totally normal. I should be super healthy! She put me on probiotics and said that she would like to see me later. In the mean time I am to eat everything that is not green.
I love green things and this is the worst diet I have ever been on! All I want is a salad but I think that would hospitalize me. Anyway, I followed her orders and avoided green. I was out at a restaurant and had been inspecting each bit of food but somehow in my 1 bite of a crab cake something green snuck in. Litterally, 1 bite! It is this sever. I ate 3 green beans one time and I almost went to the hospital because it was so bad. I hate hospitals, that is why I didn't go.
So I got to the point that everything I ate just makes me feel bad. I do not get the crazy diarrhea but there is just an overall nasty feeling. I will eat a few bits of anything and want to spit the bite in my mouth out because I just don't want to feel like that. I switched to a toast diet for 2 days while waiting to be seen by a GI specialist. I still felt bad. He was so convinced that is was Giardia or some other bacteria or parasite that he put me on Flagyl for 10 days and it was a really high dose. I laid on the couch feeling like I had the flu with my stomach upset and ate minimal things and drank water the entire time. I just kept thinking it was worth it because I would be cured after this.
So I finish the meds and decide to have my victory greens. I ate 3 cooked asparagus (suppose to be one of the easiest greens to digest). Instantly a boulder was in my stomach and after 2 agonizing hours my food was rushing out of me.
I sit down with the specialist the next day and he is just at a lost. So they have put me back on probiotics and sent me on my way to eat and feel bad. It has been a week since then and I just keep finding more things that I can not eat. I am basically drinking water and eating a small meal for lunch that is bland protein and a simple starch. I find I feel the best when I eat fatty foods like pizza and burgers but the last thing I want is more fattening food. I am 29 yo, 5'2" and weigh 125. I love to eat good healthy food and love to cook. I am not gaining or loosing weight on this "wonderful" diet. I have never had any history of GI problems before. I do have crazy hormones and have found that your hormone levels can effect your digestion but not in any specific way like this. I am at a complete loss now. I was thinking of doing a master cleans diet but would love any kind of direction or help.
I can tell instantly as soon as that evil green thing hits my stomach. It feels like someone has dropped a bolder down into my stomach and the gurgeling starts. Within 15 minutes I am bent over some object (usually a stool) putting pressure on my stomach and crying over the intense pain. Exactly 2 hours from the consumption of the evil green thing and the entire time feeling like their is an express freight train working it way though my GI track, I have diarrhea. This continues until all of the food from my system is emptied out. Usually about 24 hours, during which I only drink water or a little gateraid to get some electrolytes.
I am constantly burping these very unfullfilling burps and have more frequent gas. I went to my family doctor and they ran blood tests and I even had to turn in a stool sample. With the sudden onset of the symptoms and the rapidly increasing severity, my doctor suspected a parasite or bacteria that I could have picked up. I was on board with that. Lets annihilate that little green monster in me! My test results can back totally normal. I should be super healthy! She put me on probiotics and said that she would like to see me later. In the mean time I am to eat everything that is not green.
I love green things and this is the worst diet I have ever been on! All I want is a salad but I think that would hospitalize me. Anyway, I followed her orders and avoided green. I was out at a restaurant and had been inspecting each bit of food but somehow in my 1 bite of a crab cake something green snuck in. Litterally, 1 bite! It is this sever. I ate 3 green beans one time and I almost went to the hospital because it was so bad. I hate hospitals, that is why I didn't go.
So I got to the point that everything I ate just makes me feel bad. I do not get the crazy diarrhea but there is just an overall nasty feeling. I will eat a few bits of anything and want to spit the bite in my mouth out because I just don't want to feel like that. I switched to a toast diet for 2 days while waiting to be seen by a GI specialist. I still felt bad. He was so convinced that is was Giardia or some other bacteria or parasite that he put me on Flagyl for 10 days and it was a really high dose. I laid on the couch feeling like I had the flu with my stomach upset and ate minimal things and drank water the entire time. I just kept thinking it was worth it because I would be cured after this.
So I finish the meds and decide to have my victory greens. I ate 3 cooked asparagus (suppose to be one of the easiest greens to digest). Instantly a boulder was in my stomach and after 2 agonizing hours my food was rushing out of me.
I sit down with the specialist the next day and he is just at a lost. So they have put me back on probiotics and sent me on my way to eat and feel bad. It has been a week since then and I just keep finding more things that I can not eat. I am basically drinking water and eating a small meal for lunch that is bland protein and a simple starch. I find I feel the best when I eat fatty foods like pizza and burgers but the last thing I want is more fattening food. I am 29 yo, 5'2" and weigh 125. I love to eat good healthy food and love to cook. I am not gaining or loosing weight on this "wonderful" diet. I have never had any history of GI problems before. I do have crazy hormones and have found that your hormone levels can effect your digestion but not in any specific way like this. I am at a complete loss now. I was thinking of doing a master cleans diet but would love any kind of direction or help.
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The answer is gas. Eggs and other foods cause gas and some gets trapped in your digestive system resulting in the stabbing pain below your right rib cage. Eliminate gas-causing foods and the pain will disappear.
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I suffered from pain almost 20 years. They always said it was stress ... until I ended at a stomach specialist 2 years ago.
The pain I had, started under the ribs and 'climbed up' until my jaws. This process took between 5 minutes till 2 hours.
The specialist said he could not find any physical problem, but is almost sure that it is a kind of allergy. I had to find out myself when the pain starts and see what I ate before.
It had to do with chocolate and eggs. These 2 cause contractions in my Esophagus the specialist told me. The more I eat 'wrong' things, the longer the pain stays.
So I have to find out what kind of food causes the pain and simply do not eat it anymore. There is no medicine for this according to the specialist.
Good luck everyone.
The pain I had, started under the ribs and 'climbed up' until my jaws. This process took between 5 minutes till 2 hours.
The specialist said he could not find any physical problem, but is almost sure that it is a kind of allergy. I had to find out myself when the pain starts and see what I ate before.
It had to do with chocolate and eggs. These 2 cause contractions in my Esophagus the specialist told me. The more I eat 'wrong' things, the longer the pain stays.
So I have to find out what kind of food causes the pain and simply do not eat it anymore. There is no medicine for this according to the specialist.
Good luck everyone.
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The post quoted above may not be as flippant as it seems. I have recently (after 12 years suffering) found the answer.
I have studied all of the posts here from the first forum 6 years ago to now (2011) and so to iron out any confusion at the start as to what we are talking about, I will list the five main conditions that people are talking about - and only one relates to the mysterious condition:
1) gallstones - this is not the cause of the mysterious condition.
2) wheat allergy (which has an albumin similar to egg) or egg allergy (that mimics wheat allergy) - this also is NOT the cause of the mysterious condition.
3) H.pylori bacteria - this is not the cause of the mysterious condition (this is a treatable condition with antibiotics).
4) excess acid, reflux, ulcer - this is not it either (acid suppressants such as omeprazole will cure the pain within two weeks and continued use of omeprazole, rantidine and other acid suppressants will keep you pain free if you have an excess acid condition.)
5) The mysterious condition is mysterious, because it is a failure of the nervous system's response to normal bowel activity. A lot of the symptoms are as a result of trying to deal with a misdiagnosis of 1 to 4 above. And as a result of the anxiety of not knowing why you have been singled out to experience this terrible pain, apparently randomly.
To explain:
a) after eating certain foods (but not everytime);
b) after eating too much food (but not everytime);
c) after eating combinations of food (but not all combinations);
d) at times of stress (but not always);
...you feel an extreme pain that builds from a small manageable pain to an excrutiating internally twisting agony, that then resides to a wave of relief and no apparent after effects, other than a dodgy tummy and diaorhea (but not everytime).
The causes of the different types of symptoms (except the pain) are separate:
1) abnormal stools, as a result of taking too many indigestion reliefs over an extended period of time, and/or constipation as a result of pain killers like codeine.
2) abnormal bowel movements as a result of experiments with food over a long period of time.
3) apparently, but not exclusively, an allergic reaction to wheat, high fat foods, eggs, dairy, nuts, shell fish, milk, some chocolates, cakes, etc...
The pain has a number of different manifestations:
1) an immediate (within 3 hours) effect after eating, with a small ulcer-like concentration of pain slightly above and to the right of the belly button, just below the bottom right rib, that then feels like bloating and moves to the back.
2) Pain that reaches an extent that, after crying, you start to laugh because you realise that you are experiencing a level of pain that should not be possible.
3) pain that goes away as fast as it comes, with a residual soreness below the ribs that feels like a battle scar, (and can partly be as a result of rubbing and kneeding your stomach to try and push the wind through), but feels like you have been burnt.
What is happening to you is normal bowel function, except unlike most people, you are able to feel the extreme physical effort the stomach and intestine has to go through to process some kinds of foods, large amounts of foods, or food that may be beyond its best, or mildly contaminated.
What most people have in their nervous system is a sensation/pain suppressant function that allows the stomach and intestine to manufacture acids and to perform rhythmic tightening and squeezing motions, as if you are clenching your fist, to squeeze and breakdown food. Most people's brains are prevented from registering all that activity and without registering the pain involved in the burning and crushing of the food.
The cure for this problem is to stop taking any indigestion tablets, to stop taking any digestive medicines, to avoid foods that cause indigestion in normal people, and to chew your food as many times as possible before swallowing.
Example:
If your friend, who is normal, suffers from indigestion after a particular meal where you have had the same thing, then you will suffer the exact same indigestion as your friend. However, your friend's brain is suppressing the actual acute pain that that indigestion is and so they feel not so bad (take a few indigestion tablets). You however, feel every single ripple, every single bubble, every single cramp that your stomach and intestine enacts, starting at the point (just below the ribs) where the food enters your intestine from your stomach, spreading out as your stomach massages the food and pushes into your intestine where it is dissolved and absorbed. It takes as along as it takes the food to go through your stomach to your intestine for the pain to climax.
The problem you will now face of course is that, once you start to chew your food until it is virtually liquid (giving your stomach less work to do and so less effort and less pain), you will take twice as long as your friend to eat, and so you speed up, eat faster and then suffer terrible indigestion. You can feel it coming, it frightens you. You mitigate by taking anti-indigestion tablets first, and then have diarrhea afterward.
You have to focus on yourself, eat slowly and chew a lot - it is the only way. The pain will be significantly reduced. But until a cure is found for the loss of pain suppressant function in your nervous system, it will not completely go away.
I have studied all of the posts here from the first forum 6 years ago to now (2011) and so to iron out any confusion at the start as to what we are talking about, I will list the five main conditions that people are talking about - and only one relates to the mysterious condition:
1) gallstones - this is not the cause of the mysterious condition.
2) wheat allergy (which has an albumin similar to egg) or egg allergy (that mimics wheat allergy) - this also is NOT the cause of the mysterious condition.
3) H.pylori bacteria - this is not the cause of the mysterious condition (this is a treatable condition with antibiotics).
4) excess acid, reflux, ulcer - this is not it either (acid suppressants such as omeprazole will cure the pain within two weeks and continued use of omeprazole, rantidine and other acid suppressants will keep you pain free if you have an excess acid condition.)
5) The mysterious condition is mysterious, because it is a failure of the nervous system's response to normal bowel activity. A lot of the symptoms are as a result of trying to deal with a misdiagnosis of 1 to 4 above. And as a result of the anxiety of not knowing why you have been singled out to experience this terrible pain, apparently randomly.
To explain:
a) after eating certain foods (but not everytime);
b) after eating too much food (but not everytime);
c) after eating combinations of food (but not all combinations);
d) at times of stress (but not always);
...you feel an extreme pain that builds from a small manageable pain to an excrutiating internally twisting agony, that then resides to a wave of relief and no apparent after effects, other than a dodgy tummy and diaorhea (but not everytime).
The causes of the different types of symptoms (except the pain) are separate:
1) abnormal stools, as a result of taking too many indigestion reliefs over an extended period of time, and/or constipation as a result of pain killers like codeine.
2) abnormal bowel movements as a result of experiments with food over a long period of time.
3) apparently, but not exclusively, an allergic reaction to wheat, high fat foods, eggs, dairy, nuts, shell fish, milk, some chocolates, cakes, etc...
The pain has a number of different manifestations:
1) an immediate (within 3 hours) effect after eating, with a small ulcer-like concentration of pain slightly above and to the right of the belly button, just below the bottom right rib, that then feels like bloating and moves to the back.
2) Pain that reaches an extent that, after crying, you start to laugh because you realise that you are experiencing a level of pain that should not be possible.
3) pain that goes away as fast as it comes, with a residual soreness below the ribs that feels like a battle scar, (and can partly be as a result of rubbing and kneeding your stomach to try and push the wind through), but feels like you have been burnt.
What is happening to you is normal bowel function, except unlike most people, you are able to feel the extreme physical effort the stomach and intestine has to go through to process some kinds of foods, large amounts of foods, or food that may be beyond its best, or mildly contaminated.
What most people have in their nervous system is a sensation/pain suppressant function that allows the stomach and intestine to manufacture acids and to perform rhythmic tightening and squeezing motions, as if you are clenching your fist, to squeeze and breakdown food. Most people's brains are prevented from registering all that activity and without registering the pain involved in the burning and crushing of the food.
The cure for this problem is to stop taking any indigestion tablets, to stop taking any digestive medicines, to avoid foods that cause indigestion in normal people, and to chew your food as many times as possible before swallowing.
Example:
If your friend, who is normal, suffers from indigestion after a particular meal where you have had the same thing, then you will suffer the exact same indigestion as your friend. However, your friend's brain is suppressing the actual acute pain that that indigestion is and so they feel not so bad (take a few indigestion tablets). You however, feel every single ripple, every single bubble, every single cramp that your stomach and intestine enacts, starting at the point (just below the ribs) where the food enters your intestine from your stomach, spreading out as your stomach massages the food and pushes into your intestine where it is dissolved and absorbed. It takes as along as it takes the food to go through your stomach to your intestine for the pain to climax.
The problem you will now face of course is that, once you start to chew your food until it is virtually liquid (giving your stomach less work to do and so less effort and less pain), you will take twice as long as your friend to eat, and so you speed up, eat faster and then suffer terrible indigestion. You can feel it coming, it frightens you. You mitigate by taking anti-indigestion tablets first, and then have diarrhea afterward.
You have to focus on yourself, eat slowly and chew a lot - it is the only way. The pain will be significantly reduced. But until a cure is found for the loss of pain suppressant function in your nervous system, it will not completely go away.
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I'm a 36 year old female and I've have had this issue for the last 8 years. I thought it might be an allergy but doctors said no. It feels like i'm being poisoned after I eat certain foods. Mine started with eggs and then raw broccoli was added which also turned into cooked broccoli, now pears and other random food items have been added. Sometimes even coffee when I drink it below a certain temp. I call it hollow back. It starts about 30 minutes to an hour after eating and usually lasts for 3 painful hours where I feel like I want to vomit or go to the bathroom but I can't do either and my back feels hollow like it wants to be cracked but that would make me throw up! The only thing that helps me is heating pads on my stomach and or back, hot baths, and lying on my side. I have been to doctors and have pretty much given up and just stay away from those foods but occasionally it sneaks up on me again and I have to figure out what caused it and eliminate yet another favorite food. I will probably try again to get some more tests but sometimes I feel crazy when explaining these symptoms because they are so consistent in my life but the doctors just look at me stumped and puzzled. For anyone going through this I wish you all the best and will keep you updated if I find out anything worth sharing. I feel a little less crazy knowing I'm not alone but sorry for everyone else who shares this discomfort. Best wishes:)
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I'm 51 years old and have been having pain below my sternum for over 3 years now. I had an endoscopy which showed a few plaques but nothing significant or to be concerned over. I also had a liver work-up which showed I have a slightly enlarged liver. I had my gallbladder out when I was 23 (as did my mother and sisters, all at ages under 30). Last August, I developed a cold which turned severe and by end of September, I had bronchitis. In the following week, I went to see my doctor for the 5th time and I was given inhalers and cough syrup with codeine. I was also taking prednisone. Then, I started having severe pain in my lower chest/abdominal region and the pain radiated through to my back (across my b-strap area). It hurt to breathe. I went to the ER and after taking blood, they told me I had pancreatitis. Pancreatitis is caused by problems with gallstones or gallbladder troubles. But I had no gallbladder. It's also caused by heavy alcohol abuse. I don't drink at all, never have. So, they told me that I was a "rare" case for developing pancreatitis. So here it is July 2011 and I still have pain in that same area. I don't have pancreatitis. I've even been checked for an aortic aneurysm because I had a dream that it might be that - well it wasn't that either. I wake up some mornings and the pain below my sternum is severe and I have some back pain too. Two hours later, it's gone and then it returns after I eat my dinner. I'm keeping a record now of everything that I eat and what time the pain starts. I'm so tired of the doctors telling me that it's reflux or GERD. I have no heartburn, I have no acid. I don't have H. pylori nor an ulcer. The pain is always in the same spot. I don't have IBS. My gut feeling is that because I have no gallbladder, my liver is doing all the work of breaking down the bile; however, in doing so, and because I eat fatty foods a lot (not always), my liver is on overtime and the "fatty" stuff is not being taken care of like it should be. Could be time to see an gastroenterologist. By the way, I get some nausea but only in the evening (usually after 8 p.m.) but it only lasts 10 minutes. I don't get awakened by the pain and sometimes when the pain is not there when I go to bed, it appears as soon as I am awake. The pain does come after I eat meat and/or ice cream. At least that's what I'm noticing right now. I'm going to continue pursuing this because I know it's not normal for my body to feel this way. Does anyone know if you can get pancreatic cancer after you've had pancreatitis or is it not a prerequisite for the cancer?
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I am 43 and have eaten eggs my whole life. In fact I love eggs. Only in the last few years have I noticed the problem - lower back pain (kidney area), radiates to other areas of back, nausea, fatigue, sometimes clammy like flu. I know for sure that it is eggs because I've tested it over and over because I was in disbelief.
I've a few thoughts but I'm not a Dr. I question if it's me that has changed or could it be eggs? Being a lady, I questioned if my hormones have changed to offset my chemistry to cause a suprise egg allergy after 40 years - I've read about people who can't break down the particular protien found in egg, perhaps this is it too. Call me nuts but I had a flu shot two years ago and this egg illness arrived in conjunction w/ post flu shot. I guess anything is possible. I just wish that I could find an answer to get over the egg thing. I've tried every variation of egg (white only, yolk, egg beaters, enhanced eggs, natural eggs), but it still makes me sick with the back pain etc. Even foods containing egg give me issue. Anyone know how to get over an allergy to egg? Can you get an allergy shot that will build you up. BTW, thanks to the person who wrote about their relative who passed away from carcinoid. That was really informative.
Well, I can't seem to solve my issue, nor have the Drs. I only avoid eggs and when I really want to, every now and then I will have them but will be prepared to be layed up in bed for several hours thereafter.
Please if you have any ideas, write back.
I've a few thoughts but I'm not a Dr. I question if it's me that has changed or could it be eggs? Being a lady, I questioned if my hormones have changed to offset my chemistry to cause a suprise egg allergy after 40 years - I've read about people who can't break down the particular protien found in egg, perhaps this is it too. Call me nuts but I had a flu shot two years ago and this egg illness arrived in conjunction w/ post flu shot. I guess anything is possible. I just wish that I could find an answer to get over the egg thing. I've tried every variation of egg (white only, yolk, egg beaters, enhanced eggs, natural eggs), but it still makes me sick with the back pain etc. Even foods containing egg give me issue. Anyone know how to get over an allergy to egg? Can you get an allergy shot that will build you up. BTW, thanks to the person who wrote about their relative who passed away from carcinoid. That was really informative.
Well, I can't seem to solve my issue, nor have the Drs. I only avoid eggs and when I really want to, every now and then I will have them but will be prepared to be layed up in bed for several hours thereafter.
Please if you have any ideas, write back.
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Same issues, different food. Grilled meat and Chinese food kill me within minutes of eating BUT usually only the week or two before I start my period. I am 34 years old and this has happened to me for years (around 9). However, when I was pregnant, I never had one problem! I also have had all the tests as well and my gastro told me that it might be IBS. It is not! Any others have problems with grilled meat?
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I have very similar problems as "need answers" but my list of food is extraordinarily long. The only time over the last 5 years that I have not suffered is the 2 pregnancies I had. I cannot eat oily/greasy food (sometimes it is ok, other times not) I cannot eat any fruits that have small seeds (strawberries, rasberries, blueberries, bananas) or vegetables with seeds (cucumbers, tomatoes (which is the worst pain of all), anything with a lot of preservatives (jarred alfredo, salad dressing and other sauces, lunch meats) The list goes on and on. I cannot eat anything healthy and it drives me crazy. I am fine with breads, pastas, eggs, meats that are not marinated. I have had so many tests and no answers. If ANYONE knows what it could be I would love their opinion!
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Hey guys, I've been having the same problems for a few months now. Really bad stomach pain. So bad that at around 8-9am I'd wake up from the pain and have to sit up and sip on water until the pain subsided (thus leading to me not getting any sleep).
Found this thread last night and tried getting some GSE at Walmart with no luck. While I was there I looked in the vitamin aisle and found Acidophilus (probiotic $5 plus tax at Walmart). I took 1 pill (says take 1 a day preferably with a meal) and my stomach almost instantly felt better! And when 8-9am came around I was still asleep, didn't wake up till 10:30 and finally got the sleep I needed :)
I hope this tiny bit of information helps and I hope you all get better fast!
^V^ K
Found this thread last night and tried getting some GSE at Walmart with no luck. While I was there I looked in the vitamin aisle and found Acidophilus (probiotic $5 plus tax at Walmart). I took 1 pill (says take 1 a day preferably with a meal) and my stomach almost instantly felt better! And when 8-9am came around I was still asleep, didn't wake up till 10:30 and finally got the sleep I needed :)
I hope this tiny bit of information helps and I hope you all get better fast!
^V^ K
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I have been going thru the same thing as a matter of fact i am as i type i started trying to eat healthier a few years ago by eating salads and thought i was dying i ate one piece of broccoli today and had to leave work early i dont have insurance so i havent been to the dr but i cant eat anything green either and nothing else affects me this way good luck
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Not sure if your digestive issues have been resolved., but if not Imay be able to help and give you alittle releive. Send me your email address and I will discuss your conditions with some of my partners and see if we can help.
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Of course, you ate a "large steak & cheese sub."
We are the cause of most of our ailments because of the garbage we consume.
We are the cause of most of our ailments because of the garbage we consume.
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I had my gallbladder removed a long time ago. I cannot eat fatty things without being in pain. I have started taking supplements and it helps a lot!!! Here is what I take: 1. Life Extension Enhanced Super Digestive Enzymes, 2: Digest & SEB. You need digestive enzymes to correctly digest some foods so I take them at meal time. Has taken away a lot of pain.
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Alot if your symptoms are exactly what I...including the skin condition! My gallbladder is inflamed and only functions at less than 27%. I had an upper GI scope and found out I also had H-pylori! When I started treatment my skin got better (first time in two yrs) but 5 weeks after first treatment my stomach problems (extreme nausea, belching etc) came back right along with skin condition. They treated me a second time for H-pylori and it all went away for 4 1/2 months and when the stomach acted up again so did the skin. So I was treated again for a 3rd time. It's now been two months with no issues yet. However I still have gallbladder attacks (not as frequently because treating the h-pylori has helped reduce the inflammation in my stomach and gallbladder.) I do not have gallstones according to all the scans. Dr said chronic spasm of the gallbladder due to all of the inflammation is way my gallbladder is bad. I really suggest that you get tested for H-pylori because you have the exact skin condition that I had. You can have a breath test that will tell your dr it you have H-pylori or not. Hope this helps you!
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