I think it was @mojo that mentioned Kratom earlier. I have to agree, mainly because I have a kratom business (Major Kratom) that ships all over the eastern half of the USA. What we've discovered since we've been in business is that most of our customers are breaking their opioid cycle. Kratom will ease the WD symtom if not completely eliminate them. When Kratom tolerance increases too much, one can take a Stem & Vein grind which simply comes from the stems and the leaf veins. The alkaloid profile is different and the S&V drops their tolerance. Music and sports type and dancing type exercise also seem to help.
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Hey Georgia, still cant pm you lol. i first got the capsules of kratom cus that's all they had. I ordered the ground up leaves thats a green powder from and herb shop in portland. We got T-Rex, my thai, comodo dragon and emerald city..each is a 1/4 oz bag. I was getting headaches but not like these...I may need more water though lol. I am pretty sure it is helping cause yesterday my stinking landlord called and wants to stop by TODAY..mind you we JUST detoxed so my house was cluttered lol. I got most of it done last night...both bathrooms including the tubs, shampooed my carpets, caught up on laundry. I am soooooo soar today lol. My abs hurt, my right bicep hurts, it feels like i got punched in the ribs. I have to do my dishes still and my hands hurt lol, my dang boys were supposed to do the dishes but, they didn't. If anything the kratom is giving me energy without the effects of too much caffeine ie shaky and gross stomach. I have noticed that when I take it that I don't think of using or anything, it's pretty cool. And music has been the only thing that is keeping me sane. Gotta have my music!!
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I would never think badly of someone for choosing to be a lifer. Especially if it's free. I wanted to be a lifer, but when I think about how much it costs in a year, or 5 or 10, I just had to go. Honestly, I think once you've passed a few years on methadone, it's just not worth all the pain to get off of it. My boyfriend wants to detox. I beg him not to. I try to tell him it's worth the money to be normal & be able to sleep at night. He just does not understand what he's up against. It makes him mad and he feels like I'm discouraging him, but I just don't want to see him go through this. No one here is going to call you anything or say you're not strong enough. Like you said, you function normally and you're life is fine... and it's FREE! If it were free here I would still be on the clinic for sure.
BTW, what's the deal with your friend? Is he on something, or does he have agoraphobia or something??
BTW, what's the deal with your friend? Is he on something, or does he have agoraphobia or something??
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That's sick.You even have to pay for your own methadone per day ??
Now I am really angry.What the hell is your government doin ? Should everybody die if u don't have money for your therapy.Yea I u said it right , I don't see why should I go trough the withdrawal hell again when I'm function normal and can do all the things humans do. :)
I don't know...tell your bf all the things he will have to go trough while on detox,make him scared ,but if he really wants to go then let him go.
Well,my friend has agoraphobia,anxiety,manic depression and some other things but he has all the diagnosis only so than he can say I'm sick and because of that he's not capable of doing nothing,that's sol lame and sick. He's main problem is laziness ,he only pretends to be that sick.
Now I am really angry.What the hell is your government doin ? Should everybody die if u don't have money for your therapy.Yea I u said it right , I don't see why should I go trough the withdrawal hell again when I'm function normal and can do all the things humans do. :)
I don't know...tell your bf all the things he will have to go trough while on detox,make him scared ,but if he really wants to go then let him go.
Well,my friend has agoraphobia,anxiety,manic depression and some other things but he has all the diagnosis only so than he can say I'm sick and because of that he's not capable of doing nothing,that's sol lame and sick. He's main problem is laziness ,he only pretends to be that sick.
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Yes. It's sick. Some people pay by the day.. $7 or $8 I think, some people pay weekly, some people pay monthly. It's $205 a month if you pay early, &225 if you don't. It's awful. I wasn't healthy enough to leave, physically or mentally, but I was quite sick of paying so much money to be treated so badly. I suppose I'm feeling okay now, except I don't have much energy or motivation and I can't sleep, of course. I have my ideas about what our government is doing, but I would probably be better off not expressing those ideas!! I'll just say I wish I was born in Europe... or Canada, or something.
You're friend, he sounds awful!! Have you been friends for a long time or something? It sounds like he kinda sucks to hang around with! I've been diagnosed with everything you mentioned above, but I still take showers and go outside, even if I really, really don't want to. It's uncomfortable sometimes, but not as horrible as being all dirty and not leaving the house for 2 years. EEK!
You're friend, he sounds awful!! Have you been friends for a long time or something? It sounds like he kinda sucks to hang around with! I've been diagnosed with everything you mentioned above, but I still take showers and go outside, even if I really, really don't want to. It's uncomfortable sometimes, but not as horrible as being all dirty and not leaving the house for 2 years. EEK!
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My friend,yeah it sucks to hang around him but i visit him only about once i a month or two and stay there only half hour cause I can't stand it how he lives ! I wonder who is gonna change his dippers when his parents die,cause he is 33years old,who is gonna bring him the medicine or go to doctor. I wil not do it,that's for sure !
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Hi Major, thanks for the post. Having used Kratom for this exact I am a firm believer. Also how this helps my back pain!
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Noting the above post about money spent on Methadone per month and comparing it to my regular majorkratom.com customers. Most of whom are buying our most premium blends/grinds - I'd say that they spend about $120 (3x for 125g a month) to about $175 (1x 500g bag and then a little extra). Obviously the people buying in quantity are getting better economy but also enabling themselves to have more on hand at once. Granted I am not looking at sales reports or anything. These numbers are just what I remember seeing on the regular.
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So how is everyone doing? It sure has been quiet here. I hope everyone
is doing good. I can say the kratom was helping so my advice to you guys
is to try it. One thing I did notice is that it helps if you have
diarrhea. I think it works even better than immodium. I also noticed
that if you have taken kratom within a few hours of smoking pot, it
makes it different lol.
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Well, I had ordered 4-1/4 bags of T-Rex, Komodo Dragon, Emerald City, and Mai Thai and I made capsules out of all of them and took them all at the same time. I will say that it would give me a pretty bad headache sometimes but luckily ibuprofen helped with that. What strains would you recommend?
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Hi everyone! Still hanging in there, doing okay.
Josh, Baby, how are you guys doing?
As far as Kratom, it works amazingly on WD symptoms, it also helps me with my back pain.
Major, I have found the Sumatra white vein and the Meng Da to be good for pain. I have tried several enhanced strains and found that they either do not work, or give me a very upset stomach(which is the opposite of what it is supposed to do!) All the strains helped when I was going thru WD.
Peace
Josh, Baby, how are you guys doing?
As far as Kratom, it works amazingly on WD symptoms, it also helps me with my back pain.
Major, I have found the Sumatra white vein and the Meng Da to be good for pain. I have tried several enhanced strains and found that they either do not work, or give me a very upset stomach(which is the opposite of what it is supposed to do!) All the strains helped when I was going thru WD.
Peace
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Hi Georgia!! Like you, still hanging in there. This is rough and I'm having cravings that went away years ago and I never thought I'd have again. I'm scared of that kratom stuff. I asked a friend of mine if she'd ever tried it and she said "No, but I've tried bath salts." hahaahah. Just wondering, are you sleeping and if so, HOW?? I've been drinking lots of vodka. It gives me less of a hang over than the OTC sleeping pills, but, still not ideal, ya know? I have to see my doctor in a month for my klonopin refill and I'm going to ask for ambien or something. I'll let everyone know how that goes. Hope you're doing well, my friend!;-)
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